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P800 volume... |
pajon82
Joined: Dec 16, 2002
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Sorry if this has been discussed before. Couldn't find it!
I was "playing" with a P800 in school today!
Is it me or do you also find the Poly sound way to low in volume?
I was chocked when i saw that the volume was max...
A friend of mine had a 7650 there, and we compared the sound. Sorry guys, but the Nokias sound was much louder...is there a way to increase the volume? There must be... I love SE... 
Best regards, Patrik
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mailliw_17
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You mean 7650 is louder? Any comments guys? My wife owns a 7650 and tones a too soft cant hardly hear inside car with the radio on. Hope wav tones are louder tho?
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Guardian
Joined: Jan 28, 2003
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I have experienced the same problem on my Nokia 7210 (Gonna get the p800, as soon as it comes to Norway), but only on some ringtones that I converted. So i think it depends on the midi you are converting?
In some Norwegian reviews of the p800 that i have read it actually gets very good marks for the loudness of the ringingtones. So it should be louder than the 7650. |
pachy
Joined: Nov 05, 2002
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Downloads are of differing volume levels i have found, as there are several different volume adjustments on the phone, you might find that if you want it very loud for a ring tone you may have to adjust that in "calls" "edit" "prefferances" "sounds & alerts" "ring volume". |
pajon82
Joined: Dec 16, 2002
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That is good news...
Well, I just had one quick look at the phone, so I just posted my experience... =)
I did just adjust the main volume. Well, as you say, there are more ways to increase the volume.
The Polys that was to low, were thoose that is included.
But as you say guys, there are more ways to adjust the volume...
*puuuh* =)
Thanks, and take care.
Best regards, Patrik |
Rashkae
Joined: Jun 03, 2002
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For simple .wav files, I just increased the volume of the file itself using the Creative Mixer program. Musicmatch can do this too i think. |
amagab
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I find there is a difference between file types and songs. Sometimes it is really loud and sometimes not. In general, I think the volume is good on my P800.
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jplacson
Joined: Apr 21, 2002
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First of all... a small clarification... the SE T300 has better MIDI capabilities than the P800. The T300 has 24 note wavetable, polyphony...while the P800 has 16 note FM synthesis polyphony.
I don't really care much for fancy ringtones... so it doesn't bother me that I can't play the entire 3 min song before picking up the call.
Second, WAV files recorded at 11kHz 8-bit mono are VERY loud on the P800. 22kHz is fine, but 11 is the easiest to hear in a crowd.
Third, IMY ringtones from the T68i are EMBARRASSINGLY loud.
Fourth, MIDI volume depends on how the MIDI was composed... each instrument can be adjusted in a MIDI editing software like Cakewalk. If you're too lazy to edit your MIDIs...tough.
Fifth, the MULTIMEDIA volume on the P800 is NOT the ringtone volume. Ringtone volume is controlled under Phone, Preferences, Sounds & Alerts.
and last... PLEASE!!! NO MORE KETCHUP SONG RINGTONES!!! HAHAHAHA!!!! Just kidding... if you like the song, go ahead and use it!!! Hehehehehehe!  |
pajon82
Joined: Dec 16, 2002
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Thanx for the info...
Looking forward to my P800 on thursday/friday!!!
/ Patrik |
jhermano
Joined: Mar 19, 2002
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From: Alabang, Philippines
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My wife has a 7650 too and it is definitely much louder than my P800, using the same midi and wav files on both phones. I've been wanting to hook up with someone with another P800 to check whether there is something wrong with my speaker. Also, the P800 speaker seems to break up (distortion) more than the 7650 when using midi tones which I've edited to to make the instruments louder (7650 better low frequency output).
One thing I,ve noticed though, the P800 plays the files louder when the phone is actually ringing than when your are just listening to them with the audio app.
Is there something wrong with my P800? |
Raven
Joined: Jul 01, 2002
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As a general rule, midi's are much softer than wav's. If you need a loud ring tone, use a .wav file, or imy's for a loud regular ringtone. I think the only phones worth having midi as ring tones are the new Samsungs. They sound great because they have a Yamaha sound chip which takes use of the full 256(I think) instrument set playing through 16 channels. So you see it doesn't always matter how many instrument you can play at the same time(16,24,40etc.), but also what sound chip it uses and the quality of the speaker of each handset. The 7650 has 24 channel polyphony btw, that may be one of the reasons why the sound is different from the P800(16). It's also normal that ringtones sound louder when the phone is ringing than just playing it in the audio player. And like Jplacson said, the midi and wav files can be altered(improved) on your PC with some programs. I find the P800 volume to be more than loud enough for ringtones and mp3's, but I'd never use midi's when I can use wav!
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jplacson
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Raven, I think the T300 uses a similar DSP chip as well... 24-note polyphony w/ wavetable synthesis.
I personally find MIDI ringtones cheesy. Only a couple of people have personalized rings on my phone because they wanted to have their own ringtone when they called me...that's about it. I use an IMY file I made on my T68i as my regular ringtone. It cuts through any crowd, no matter how loud! (I heard it while I was at rock club w/ the band playing)
For SMS & MMS, I have customized voice WAV files.
I find it funny how they say you can "personalize" your ringtones, when everybody usually has the same ringtone! (Well, most people in the Philippines anyway) So when someone's phone rings, everyone still checks their phones!!! Kinda funny!  |
jhermano
Joined: Mar 19, 2002
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From: Alabang, Philippines
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I thought the original post was a question comparing the volume of the 7650 to the P800 not file types and editing files. As an acoustic engineer I am well aware of the many ways these file types can be edited and manipulated to improve their volume. The number of channels and the chip used definitely makes a difference in sound quality of the samples but should not make a difference in sound level (volume).
Is the 7650 louder than the P800? In my experience, the 7650's sound level and frequency response are better than the P800 in an AB comparisson with the same file playing at maximum volume. Even the 6610 is louder. |
Raven
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Hehe...that's true. That's why I use wav's. I really like the default Oldfashioned(wav) ringtone in the P8! It's loud, gets some wierd looks and just sounds really cool, just like the oldschool counter-clockwise dialing land phones. Hmm.. was it clock-wise or counter-clockwise...?
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pachy
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You only have to visit a Supermarket near me to realise that Nokias are louder. |
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