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Posted: 2009-10-14 16:23
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On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
If Aino had:
-Larger, AMOLED and higher resolution display, not this 3-year old 3" FWQVGA.

I would definitely not want a larger display. I want to be able carry the thing with me, and it needs to fit in my pocket. Devices like the iPhone and Android devices are simply too big for me. The size of the Aino is perfect. Just right.
And I wouldn't want a higher resolution either, becasue that would render most games tiny on the screen. No thanks. I've seen how useless e.g. the HTC Diamond is in that area. No it's brilliant that you get a slightly bigger screen with the Aino, without messing up availability of games and apps. SE just needs to add the option of setting a screen-size to MIDlets to avoid a white box at the bottom of the screen for some games.

On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
-Outer d-pad.

No way. D-pad should be hidden with phone is closed. That's my opinion.

On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
-Stereo speakers.

I don't get that. Who in his right mind uses those small speakers anyway? If you want to use your phone as a stereo, you buy suitable speakers to hook it up with. I've seen those kids a few times though, sitting there with their phone, listening to music via the built-in speakers, and it sounds lousy. Do they think they're cool or what? It's a joke.

On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
-3.5mm audio jack.

Don't want to argue there, just want to say that *I* need a plug that allows a microphone on the wire as well. Don't care what kind of plug it is, and I'll be using SE headsets regardless.
It would however be nice to be able ot use SE's headsets on other phones, but that would require those brands to use a 3.5mm jack then, which they don't.

On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
-MicroUSB.

Why is MicroUSB important?

On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
-Better video recording.

Agreed!

On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
-DivX and XviD support.
-Powerful RAM, processor and graphics accelerator.

Get a smartphone like Satio then, or an Android device.

On 2009-10-14 15:21:22, CELL-P wrote:
-hmmm maybe xenon flash.

Agreed. Would be nice.

Aino an Epic Fail? Big words I definitely disagree with. To me it's a state of art, only with the usual early-firmware-probs. To me it's definitely a good step in the right direction.
The kind of requirements you have just isn't for this model. You want another model. I want the Aino.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 16:46
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A larger screen doesn't necessarily increase the size of the phone especially if it is designed properly, really. Another thing, do you want to stick with the crappy 2.0-2.4" QVGA screens forever? I don't.

3.5mm and MicroUSB are standards, STANDARDS!. And considering it is supposed to be multimedia flagship, stereo speakers could have been nice. DivX, XviD and good hardware are useful on a multimedia phone even if it is not a smart phone and they are already offered on other manufacturers' feature phones.

Those feature would definitely make the Aino a much better phone and possibly legend. And if they come from SE, they have another taste. However, SE would never listen and would never produce phones like that.

In conclusion, SE is the stingiest
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Posted: 2009-10-14 16:53
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I'm pretty sure the Aino does have stereo speakers.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 16:56
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SE have moved for 2.2-2.4 to 2.4.-2.6
I love SE cause they are the only ones smart enough to pioneer foward with face buttons still and not with touchscreen which personally I hate. The reason its called a mobile phone its cause its a phone on the go, not your touchscreen with a phone. If you don't like that they make small screen or mid-large screened phones with buttons to appease to everyone then I'm sorry but go look for a phone from Nokia or LG or Samsung. I personally find the Aino just perfect for me. Why?
The buttons are most important. I am a major phone gamer and touchscreen phones do not cut it for me. While it might not have the feature to play 240x320 games properly or even the ability to have games for it I am sure sooner or later the companies that make games will start supporting it. The touchscreen does what it was put in for and that is to be a multimedia station. Sure it might not have the fancy schmancy Xvid or DVix stuff or whatever but if it does multimedia with a touchscreen I am fine. It combines what I want:
Touchscreen for multimedia and Buttons for phone functions and gaming. And that there is why people should give it a chance cause it combines both worlds in a simple and extremely exciting package.
Edit: I do not have it but I will definitely get it. Its what I was looking for all along. And yes it does have stereo speakers.
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_aino-2810.php
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Posted: 2009-10-14 17:10
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Actually, I like the camera and media menu only touchscreen function, just like the phones in Japan. I want a high-spec phone with a regular keypad and a big screen whether it is a slider or a flip phone. The current touchscreen phones trend drives me mad

S001 is a slider and has a regular keypad with a 3.3" FWVGA 854×480 AMOLED display and it is not big. I want to see SE phones with those kind of specs globally

The Aino could have been my perfect phone if it had the specifications that I previously mentioned.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 17:20
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On 2009-10-14 17:10:12, CELL-P wrote:
Actually, I like the camera and media menu only touchscreen function, just like the phones in Japan. I want a high-spec phone with a regular keypad and a big screen whether it is a slider or a flip phone. The current touchscreen phones trend drives me mad

S001 is a slider and has a regular keypad with a 3.3" FWVGA 854×480 AMOLED display and it is not big. I want to see SE phones with those kind of specs globally

The Aino could have been my perfect phone if it had the specifications that I previously mentioned.
[ This Message was edited by: CELL-P on 2009-10-14 16:12 ]


There's a reason why you willl never see that outside of Japan. Its cause only the users in Japan are used to them and willing to use em while the western world would be all nasty to the phones.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 17:52
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Does a higher screen resolution use more power because of more pixels
Phone?? What phone??
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Posted: 2009-10-14 18:15
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There's a reason why you willl never see that outside of Japan. Its cause only the users in Japan are used to them and willing to use em while the western world would be all nasty to the phones.

The Aino is already providing the same idea, but its hardware didn't satisfy me. That's why I want to see more. SE should quit being lazy and make more phone in order to differentiate its feature phones. SE is still wasting obvious opportunities.

One flawed phone is just not enough.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 19:05
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On 2009-10-14 18:15:59, CELL-P wrote:
There's a reason why you willl never see that outside of Japan. Its cause only the users in Japan are used to them and willing to use em while the western world would be all nasty to the phones.

The Aino is already providing the same idea, but its hardware didn't satisfy me. That's why I want to see more. SE should quit being lazy and make more phone in order to differentiate its feature phones. SE is still wasting obvious opportunities.

One flawed phone is just not enough.
[ This Message was edited by: CELL-P on 2009-10-14 17:17 ]


Think of it like this. Its a flawed phone but similar to the Japanese phones. If SE sees this lifting off the ground with amazing sales they will launch more like it and eventually get to the Japanese standard with hybrids like this.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 19:30
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Err cell-p, let me know a phone which has the above mentioned characteristics and i will buy it in a jiffy.All of them that is. The Satio comes closest to your description.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 19:53
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A lot of phones in Japan do have such characteristics. Its not outside the realm of possiblity. For japan that is.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 20:19
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The Satio comes closest to your description.

Sadly, even the Satio lacks many things in my opinion. I guess I will have to wait until Q2 next year and then I will see what happens. If no thing happens until then, I will have to ignore the mobile phone market for a while although I am not sure that I can.
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Posted: 2009-10-14 20:24
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On 2009-10-14 20:19:47, CELL-P wrote:
The Satio comes closest to your description.

Sadly, even the Satio lacks many things in my opinion. I guess I will have to wait until Q2 and then I will see what happens.

Now that's just madness...
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Posted: 2009-10-14 20:30
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Now that's just madness...

Why? Come on already, I do need to list the Staio's every single disadvantage because they are well known.

If I am not satisfied, I will just have to wait for a phone that satisfies me whether it is SE, Samsung or anything else. Is there anything wrong with that?
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Posted: 2009-10-14 21:02
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@ Cell-P. I think you should wait indeed, although it will be a couple of years. And when your dream is finaly true. . . You want more. We all want more. Read the Aino thread, read the Satio thread, read any thread. Maybe you are better of with a big bag filled with all sorts of devices. About Aino, I go for the new start, the issues are minor and it's looks are stunning. We all want more but I'm more than happy with Aino. ( If I only had it already )
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