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blerk
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Posted: 2009-04-23 13:43
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/me sits back to watch yet another endless debate about camera phones.
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Raiderski
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Posted: 2009-04-23 13:54
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next "C902 over everything" debate?

at first, C902 is not the only phone in which firmware was updated since first release. I think you missed Zn5 updates! you're not alone, people which did photos you posted missed that too

funny thing is that you want to tell us that Zn5 is crappy for indoor and night photos. only because of one comparision with old firmwares in both phones?


if you really need them in fullsize:
C902 - http://tinyurl.com/dap2wh
Zn5 - http://tinyurl.com/cvurfg


C902 vs. ZN5
page 1 - http://publish.it168.com/2008/0731/20080731043805.shtml
page 2 - http://publish.it168.com/2008/0731/20080731043806.shtml

N82 vs. ZN5
page 1 - http://publish.it168.com/2008/0805/20080805000705.shtml
page 2 - http://publish.it168.com/2008/0805/20080805000706.shtml

Zn5 - http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/[....]ber/02/motorola_zn5/zn5-36.jpg
N82 - http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/[....]ber/02/motorola_zn5/n82-36.jpg
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blerk
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Posted: 2009-04-23 14:26
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I'd like to see some real world comparing, not just this "omg look at the noise" crap. Take picture in a controlled enviroment, with the latest firmware and same lighting conditions, then print those pictures on a default photo format, then judge what looks nice or not. Nobody ever print 5mp images at full size, they're *always* reduced for printing.

I've taken a bunch of photos with my C702 and had jessops print them on 18x13cm for me, and they look perfect. I put them in the same album as photo's taken by my kodak and new lumix camera and you wont be able to tell which photo is taken with what cam at this size. Normal photo size is a even a bit smaller at 15x10cm.

I wished people here would stop debating senseless things such as noise when these photo's are never printed at full size. Who in the right mind would use any camera phone or even a small digicam for A2/A1 prints? I guess the experts here all have a 56" high definition LCD panel at 3840x2160

I bet for average point and shoot any 2mp+ camera phone with AF will do just fine for average Joe to print their 15x10cm photos.
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Raiderski
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Posted: 2009-04-23 15:15
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I don't think that looking at full size is weird especially when pictures from both phones are very different in similar conditions. besides this is comparision then why should we look only at the top of the ice mountain and pretend there's nothing below? just because Plank said so and I cannot verify his words? some people don't care about full size, some care, some care about prints, some don't. relax
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Posted: 2009-04-23 15:16
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These are just 5mp camphones , your saying 5mp is a resolotion too big for anyone to use?, 56" teles/screens do exist and are avaible, what about the 8mp & 12mp camphones??? , you'd need a 80inch or 120inch screen which arent as avaible as 56" screens.
I've never owned a phone with more than 3.2mp myself , and my digicams max resolotuion is only 5mp i also don't understand why'd i would need anything more, max i print my photos is full A4.
One day you might want to view your 5mp snaps on a 50" screen , or print out 1 as a small sized poster, so you would need the best fullsized quality, where it's gets silly is 8mp & 12mp you'd never have a screen that big and unless you need a poster for a billboard youd never print anything out that big and if you did need such sized prints you'd use a DSLR.
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Posted: 2009-04-23 15:20
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@number1 my point exactly, maybe my sarcasm is too subtle The screen does exist though: http://www.barco.com/corporate/en/products/product.asp?gennr=1831
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Posted: 2009-04-23 15:34
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You sounded more angry than sarcistic , As Raiderski said this is just another C902 praising thread about how great the C902 when it isn't, so people will be misinformed.
From the resized samples the N82 is clearly best, no purple fringing, it produces the reds properly and handles the light better.
And in fullsized the Zn5 is the best very good quality as the noise suppression isn't as strong.
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Posted: 2009-04-23 17:15
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Oh, I'm not angry, the opposite really, I'm amused and bemused I find it funny one person has such a mission, almost like a Jehova witness or something, no offence to any Jehova witnesses here
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Bonovox
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Posted: 2009-04-23 17:22
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Good god them Motorola zN5 pics are horrible
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Posted: 2009-04-23 17:26
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well N82 is a good phone, xenon flash vs led flash
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Posted: 2009-04-23 18:06
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I'm waiting c901...
is a lifestyle!
Vipera ammodytes
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Posted: 2009-04-23 18:55
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http://publish.it168.com/labs[....]080731043806&picid=1104896.JPG

http://publish.it168.com/labs[....]080731043806&picid=1104898.jpg

http://publish.it168.com/labs[....]080731043806&picid=1104892.JPG

http://publish.it168.com/labs[....]080731043806&picid=1104894.jpg

omg zn5 is great at full size... much much better then c902
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plankgatan
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Posted: 2009-04-23 18:57
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well. like i said, ten millions of times.

i MUCH rather have a camera who looks good in normal size in all conditions, then a camera who have slightly better full size quality band weaker in different conditions, (it makes no sense, at least in my brain)

ZN5 handle most (not all) outdoor great, but the rest is pretty weak, many pics looks washed out, etc....
anyway, c902 and N82 comes out on top in this camera test

edit...zn5 have often better full size quality then c902. but NOT much much (poor vipera ) its just a bit better.
but hey, we talking about a thick cellphone with latest Kodak sensor/optic against a 10mm standard cybershot !!!. (zn5 fails quite big i think, with this hardware it should look ten times better

you really picked the worse pictures...he he...anyway, here its more similar
c902

zn5

c902

zn5

c902

zn5


c902

zn5

[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-04-23 18:27 ]
alexander87
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Posted: 2009-04-23 19:29
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ooook planky

idk with what ZN5 you compared with but the pictures aren't as close as i get with my ZN5.
especially those washed out pictures outdoors, i can bet the lens were full of dirt or smth
mindless gibberish...
horrible cloudy rainy™ day



also fullsize on photo section

http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=19251
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Vipera ammodytes
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Posted: 2009-04-23 19:37
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i picked worse pictures??? hahahaha

you are so funny, later i will do some comprasion
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