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Bonovox
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Yeah O2 do put a fair few things in of their own but not normally horrible menu icons unless its their own branded phones like the O2 Cocoon for instance.
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yea g
Joined: Jul 02, 2008
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From: New Zealand
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I think the manafacturers should just say "no". Imagine how many complaints phone manafacturers get from people with disabled features
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blerk
Joined: Jun 12, 2008
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From: London, UK
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I hope many, but probably not. People don't complain quickly, in private they do, but they wont write letters or emails that easily. I think the BBC has this thing that if one person writes a letter it means that 50.000 people are bothered by it, the other 49.999 people just can't be bothered to complain. If only SE and other company's would do the same they would see there is a problem. But I doubt it, most likely your complaint ends up in the in box of some cubicle worker who dismisses it and never looks at it again (like what happened to my complaint/case at SE). Sad but true.
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Alpha Trion
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
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From: Midlands UK
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On 2009-03-28 08:22:55, blerk wrote:
I think the BBC has this thing that if one person writes a letter it means that 50.000 people are bothered by it, the other 49.999 people just can't be bothered to complain.
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Brightspark
Joined: Aug 19, 2007
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From: UK
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you're fighting a losing battle and the petition is a waste. mobile phone networks brand their phones for the following reasons:
a) to provide a revenue source (eg links to download ringtones, games, etc from the network website)
b) to establish a corporate identity.
c) to make it easier(according to them) for the customer to transfer from one brand to another. in a way, it's a weak form of lock-in.
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Yoruichi
Joined: May 10, 2007
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agreed.. cant stand and refuse to even buy a branded phone for several reasons. 1. they dont pay me to advertise for them. 2. limited / removed functions. 3. travel alot cant be locked to one network. easier to change sims than have a ton of phones. always buy my phones direct from the manufacturer. quick , easy and no branding.
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Miss UK
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Im seriousley not bothered about myphone seen below:
it has a few start-ups and Vodafone live menu which is outta sight in the widgets, but I don't care tbh lol
it looks different from the normal phone which I like 
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Supa_Fly
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On 2009-03-27 12:23:00, Bonovox wrote:
Come on everyone on here come and sign my petition on here against phone branding. My petition i wish could be sent to Vodafone Orange and 3 to stop all branding on mobile phones. If they knew how many complaints it causes and maybe even how many customers it can lose them then surely they would do something about it. Why should we sign that contract or pay hundreds of pounds for pay as you go and not be given the real original product as it was intended to be. Why should we put up with nasty graphics and horrible menus when signing on the dotted line. Branding. Why?
I appload your effort; sincerely. I'd like to offer some thoughts that may assist you.
CAUTION: I tend to ramble on, and besides that most ppl on this board find my commentary questionable or useless. I'll try to keep it concise.
#1. ALL providers (wireless providers) operate on the basis of Money!
#2. People - yes us - are fickle when it comes to services. We will in our lifetimes or even within a 3yr time period change providers - due to a device offering that is exclusive, unique service that benefits us, or more competitive pricing, or finally equal pricing that offers us - the majority - more value for the dollar we spend. If you're going to VOTE with your dollars - you'll need to be committed to it and prepared to call their bluff!
#3. Wireless Providers around the world: Vodafone UK, TMobile Germany/USA/UK, Orange France/UK, NTTDoCoMo, Rogers Wireless, AT&T, etc etc ; all - like Apple - use hardware sales in order to sell a service. Apple uses Hardware to sell its software; mainly OS X. Again if you're going to vote with your dollars BE PREPARED to cancel your contract and pay any outstanding monthly fees, cancelation fees, data cancelation fees (be happy you don't have this in the UK).
#4. You NEED to provide an incentive - something of equal dollar value to providers in a professional - meticulously laid out - manner that SHOWS THEM branding is not worth their time, money, and investment. Come to think about it ... you'll be killing a few jobs by your mission. Think of the coders that work hard to put the branding label on our phones, the software, the interconnecting ports and code that make applications or tie into the browser work for Vodafone Live video, etc etc.
A) Show them that their partnership to the Symbian Foundation, partnership with services already known and entranched for many of the same services ARE in FACT better than what Vodafone/3/Orange etc offer.
- Nokia's upcoming Ovi Store; like Apple's App Store allows for applications to be purchased directly by the end user. This helps the providers REDUCE server storage, runtime, billing costs. Ovi Store goes one better than the iPhone's App Store. It will allow consumers to purchase using a credit card over the secure network - OR via applying the charges to their billing account to be remitted to the provider upon payment of the upcoming services bill.
- Apple's iTunes allows for iPhone users, like Mac users, to purchase a wealth of musical tracks by using a world renowned and MOST POPULAR, USED, and RECOGNIZED service & application. No need to make partnership deals with record companies and the costs associated with it: Flight costs for execs in meetings, bandwidth costs for Video Conferencing in HD, Signed Legal Documents, Billing system augmentations, costs of its downtime, direct back end server bandwidth loads, etc etc. Again think of THEIR money and their revenue ; how its affected.
B) Nokia makes a LOT more phones and services from Ovi already offer ...
Nokia Maps - direct competition to TeleNav that isn't available for S60. If they STOP taking off BBMaps off of BlackBerry's then users WILL use that and the revenue from the data in use will be ALL in the providers pocket, not a loss or reduction of revenue for the HUGE licensing costs to TeleNav. Turn by Turn Navigation can be done by Gmaps or other third party software which users WILL buy. Always have and always will buy.
Nokia Messaging - already 2 providers are on board for using this as a service for S60 phones, and within about 8mths for S40 phones.
RIM has its own App World Store that allow for coding to match a providers branding & inventory.
C> Remind providers that they make MORE money by providing a SERVICE, not trying to provide HARDWARE. They need to allow applications & devices to perform they way they were intended to so that more data is used and thus more of the core providers services are used. Providers can SAVE huge money if they USE their internal coding staff on working with manufacters for new device testing, bug fixes catered to their supported devices & how they run on the network. Better yet use their coders to make services that work on supported phones WITHOUT the BRAND.
BRANDING does little for increasing customers; especially for a largely known brand. Brand-Name Recognition should be the sole purpose of a logo. Not to entice customers/clients. End users do NOT need to be reminded what provider their using daily on their mobile phones. End users will spread the word about their views of the provider if favorable and MORE so if non-favorable.
I hope this helps your goal in some way, even if to provoke thought.
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