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C902 vs LG KF750 Secret |
-PERFECT-
Joined: Dec 29, 2007
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Plank, it’s simple for me to post nice Secret’s 100% crop examples:
Mate, will see haki’s comparison, in this comparison i have posted try to give me whatever C902’s 100% crop that looks better than Secret.
On 2008-09-18 23:34:30, Raiderski wrote:
different exposure levels due to different compositions. very important issue especially for scenes with wide range of luminosity (e.g. sky and ground). I know that identical compositions are not possible but they should be as close as possible if you want to compare anything (yes, colors and details will suffer too)
Raidersky, it‘s all true, but wich pic in the “right” exposure with both phone would be better? In “some conditions” looking 10 resized pics you can judge 4 or 5 better for C902 and 6 or 5 for Secret, but while you see the real size there is no C902’s pic that looks better.
Look at some 100% crop color contrast:
C902:
Secret:
On 2008-09-18 22:11:04, marty mcfly wrote:
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Heroes? Maybe! 
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mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
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I prefer the photos taken by the secret for 2 reasons:
1) The C902's photo's are very grainy at full res and detail is lost. The Secret is much clearer. Veiw both at full res next to each other - You would have to blind to not see how grainy the SE shots are.
2) C902 suffers very badly from Purple Fringing. Look at the horizon on the hills and look at the Chrome Grill on the Car. No frimware can fix this - it is the result of a poor quality lens. |
se_dude
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In fact, the Secret has more purple fringing.Check out the pics once more.
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Muhammad-Oli
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Lol the C902 haters are out again. Hi!
Look I have a C902 and it's great. It may or may not take better shots than the perfect, but from those images they both look about the same. I have the latest firmware on mine, and I used to have that 035 firmware, and between the two, I've noticed the latest firmware is a bit better.
If you like the Secret better, then so be it. I'm glad you like it. If you like the C902 better, then that's cool. I like it too.
You guys argue about phones all day long and its beginning to get ridiculous. Here's my input to your big argument: Who gives a crap?
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plankgatan
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i was looking at Pitzons comparision between N82 & C902...looks totaly different to this thread. (this is how C902 suppose behave in auto on a sunny day..everything else is BS)
c902
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Raiderski
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don't ask me about quality of crops  in fact I prefer results (subtle grain) of new C902 firmware than Secret's strong smooth. LG should give more sharpness for pixel, this will be great improvement. of course I didn't changed my mind - pics from Secret are very good but metamorphosis of C902 camera is really nice
Plank
don't compare these pics, please look at shadows and date/time in EXIF
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plankgatan
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does it even mather... (my point is that this over-bleached pictures in this thread looks totaly different to example pitzons auto-pics.....how in hell can it be so ???? (dont ask me)
this is what auto do. do you see some difference on the brightness-level & contrast ???? (its such a different man)
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haki
Joined: May 14, 2002
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From: The real MACEDONIA in GREECE
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@al bundy: The comparison photos that I posted at the C902 thread were taken with the 038 firmware which I personally installed on the phone.
I want to make it clear that I have owned tens of SE phones while this is my first LG. Prior to the Secret I had the C702, G700 and G900 and also the K850, K810, K770, T650, W890, W910, K800, and W900 right before them, so I like to think of myself as an SE fan. |
-PERFECT-
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Plank, you can see bleached pics because there isn’t the ideal light conditions, it’s not possibile to have always good illumination and in this case C902 has big limits and bad performance.
Your pics look nice, but with ideal light condition.
Look these pics:
Credit to kalipso:
Credit to davicol:
It’s impossible to have a 100% crop like this with C902.
Like haki, for me in all the way Secret is better.
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juniji
Joined: Apr 24, 2007
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Wow. The Secret has a real problem picking up yellow tones. Compare the first two photos. The taxi (photo 1) the yellow roof (photo 2) are completely washed out.
Guess the 902 is the best bet! |
haki
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From: The real MACEDONIA in GREECE
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Well, besides colorful, sunny days, there are also MANY instances of photos indoors! Here is how the "best bet" fared against the Secret just a few minutes ago. I took them leaning against a wall and this is as steady as it goes.
It's not good news for some people!
C902
KF750
C902 Crop
KF750 Crop
C902 Crop
KF750 Crop
C902 Crop
KF750 Crop
Can ANYONE detect a difficulty for the Secret to pick up yellows???
C902 Crop
KF750
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plankgatan
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Perfect. here we go again. you really have some need to post Secrets pics in this forum...(now we just have to wait for some more pages with secrets pics, or do you still have some more compare pics to share. yes, no ??
wait a minute...this indoor pics with C902 looks different. it have clear good colors & sharpness, (must been edit by myself when i was sleeping  )
and please, this c902 crops looks so different... i suggest you drop that question about good or bad details. (stronger post-processing means less details, and there is Secret behind. read on GSM arena, they explain so even you guys understand)
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haki
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You know that after OUTDOORS photos come INDOORS photos with artificial lighting (like in the ones I posted above) and after that come...oh nooo...photos with FLASH!!! You know what will happen there, right plankgatan? And, yes, I know that the LG engineers were smart enough to use post-processing to reduce digital noise at the sacrifice of some detail. My questions are why do people prefer the Secret photos (even after post-processing) and why the SE engineers were NOT intelligent/competent enough to achieve the same and give the public what their eyes prefer!
And yes, I will be taking more comparison photos to post in a COMPARISON thread, and they will be shot according to the evolution of the thread.
And no, "we guys" don't have to read GSMarena articles to make some photographic conclusions, we read photography sites...which should also be read by guys who think that they can become National Geographic photographers with a C902 in hand.
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plankgatan
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what are you talking about...........
you know why we havnt seen some low light/night/indoor pics ??? Perfect is scared to death(or whatever) to post low light/night or indoor pics because he KNOW they will gonna look bad...why ????
Secret have no good all round camera at all. (you think i make this up ?? of course not, take a look for example on Flickr.com and look at some indoor, low light (if you find any)..they have no good quality at all, the details are washed away and they looks just messy.
good daylight..yes, there is secret good, but there is (nearlly) everyone phones good..whats the idea to pump out daylight after daylight in a comparision ??? if you want some true result, you should post pics in different conditions
and like i said...i havnt seen one single Secret crop with this accurate quality...see you
and i surely havnt seen any night pics by Secret.
(taken in pitch black) 100% crop........
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haki
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From: The real MACEDONIA in GREECE
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Photos WITHOUT sufficient artificial LIGHT plankgatan...photos that rely on the phone's FLASH plankgatan. If you understand what I mean can you please post one? | |
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