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navy77
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their old practices, it will surely be much better.
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navy77
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Pls do not leave us, end users, alone!!! :-0
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pachy
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@navy77,i`m quite happy with SE service, my local SE service center people are a great crowd, considering i`ve never paid anything to them myself. however in the days of the old t10/t20/t28 ericsson was a dirty word in public places round here, to get all their street cred back with one phone (t68/i) is good going, but the trend must continue, if the p800 is unreliable ...goodbye SE.
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toyboy
Joined: Dec 21, 2002
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I think SE has to improvise on their marketing strategy,sad to say but what Nokia is doing is the best cos every month or two they release a new model and when did SE release one.SE also should release models with some minor changes like the Nokia people do and get something new in their phones,I think FM radio will be nice inclusion in the phone.
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wrecked_porsche
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FM radio would be nice. But dont expect SE to release ' new phones ' cause they cant even release their normal phones ON TIME. They are ALWAYS LATE. They release their phones a little at a time in different countries. Never at simultaneously around the world. Take the p800 for a good example. Not enough ? Then take t300.... Crap!! :-(
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thomppa
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I agree with you guys p800 wount be for the massmarket and therefor not generate big money for them.
Ok... I agree SE doesnt do well financially. But it is not true SE loose big money. They are quite close to breakeven. But SE doesnt have big affect on ericsson and the stock. But the success of p800 is important for ericsson. It could help the brand and it is one of the most advanced phones on the market and its applications will push the operators to invest in infrastructure. And that will affect stocks
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the-three
Joined: Dec 20, 2002
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True, SE is not the main business of Ericsson, since then, Ericsson have switch their main business by providing infrastructure and support to the operator.....that's why they're cash cow at the time and why they lose money rite now. But still SE mean a lot to Ericsson, the reason why Ericsson was so successful in infrastructure business is because of their reputation in mobile phone business. And the mobile phone market is what our ordinary ppl just able to see everyday.
For more details, please read BusinessWeek "Saving Ericsson" on November 4th.
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Lemmy
Joined: Dec 19, 2001
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You cannot compare phones like SE and NOKIA.
SE products are pure quality, and gadgets like NOKIA are mass-produces, eyecatching - and among youngsters - very popular phones.
SE will survive...p800 or not!!!
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the-three
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Lemmy
I doubt if any company may survive without successful mass production products.....see what happen to Aston Martin, Bently and Rolls Royce, if u know what i mean here.
However, I don't have any doubt Sony or Ericsson will survive independently, they are great multinational companies, but i just doubt the Joint Venture of SE....it's great in concept, but as with other joing venture, it probably won't last.....conflicts....as always, trigger the failure, wonder how the Japs and Swedish with totally different culture can work well together. I hope they'll success, but so far i can't see any yet.
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Orka
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On 2002-12-20 16:38, Oblomov wrote:
Well in my opinion, the p800 will not and can not save Sony Ericsson, the p800 is a fantastic device, but it is not for the mass market and will thus not sell enough units to by itself turn the company around (especially as SE as usual can't deliver enough units to the shops when it's new and hot...) Ericsson just must get better at logistics and get the devices to the shops in line with demand.
I don't think  is doomed (yet) but the p800 is not enough by itself. The T68i is still selling very well for an expensive model, but it's over a year old and need replacement, even if there is nothing wrong with it. I think should consider doing a Nokia and make a "new" T300 with a new form factor to attract a few extra punters while the world is waiting for the T68 II with everything from the old one + better display, java, polyphonic ringtones etc.
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I couldn't agree more with you. P800 is good device but it is not enough to save . Its is not a device for everyone, it is very expensive and very complicated for the medium mobile user. So, I believe should focus more on medium & low range devices in order to overcome the problem. Just like Nokia does. |
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On 2002-12-21 04:18, pachy wrote:
P800 will be ((((( THE ))))) phone to have in 2003, everyone who sees it will want it. but it will only save SE if they WANT to stay together, like ANY relationship. (i persuaded alot of my local crowd to get the t68/i,& they now trust my judgement & will also go for p800).
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yeah.. it's also a phone to wait a year ago... =)
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haki
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Nokia is big because they sell hundreds of millions of 150 phones and do not have to rely on the sales of a 700 phone however suberb that may be. Not all people are phone-fans like us Esatoans, and 700 is a LOT of money for the vast majority of the people on this planet! SE need to come out with cheap, beautiful phones...and new, smart faceplates to correct their T300 disastrous design mistake! And I agree that Sony's only contribution to SE appears to be its deep and bulging pocket!
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haki
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The prices I have quoted are Euros but the Euro sign didn't go through! Sorry!;-)
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DSF
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I am living in Romania-Arad. 3 days ago i visited some gsm shops.
No p800 phones. No t68m just t68i. I was looking 2 other E/SE models and i observe t65,t66,t200,etc. They dont have t300 on stock. However here the majority are using nokia and alcatel.
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DSF
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Nokia latest phones are coming here quikly and SE's doesnt. That's why SE is loseing ppl :-[ .. they must enlarge their market..
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