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Duran
K850 Blue
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Posted: 2007-11-14 15:02
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On 2007-11-14 14:57:43, chombos1 wrote:
@duran
as i said in the other topic:

make your flash pics with Twillight portrait mode

ye i'll try
tobysmerdon@
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Posted: 2007-11-14 16:12
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I agree with numb. had my k850i for 3 weeks now, and just as angry and upset as you are. I have had camera phones since they were invented, and these are the worst photo's taken by a camera phone i own. Mostly when using the flash, they come out nearly pitch black, and i take most of mine in a club, therefore the phone is useless. Even worse, SE are nottaking responsibilty and admitting the fault when ive called them and emailed them, and orange wont help me either as they have no fault from SE, and when i went to swap it, the phone in the shop did exaclty the same thing, but orange's answer is, well thats just how the phone functions. Because mine was an upgarde, i am really stuffed and stuck with a phone i hate for the next 18 months, and extremely angry at orange for not helping me.
augustborn9917
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Posted: 2007-11-14 18:20
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to all those who claim that the K850 takes great shots:

the point to a phone cam is to "point and shoot" and have have a great photograph. the k850 does not deliver.

all the praisers say: "you have to hold it properly", "good users take good shots", "keep the ISO low", "manually input the settings", "spin three times, click your heels and say please, please, please", blah blah.

the rest of the 5mp cam-phones in its class are good out of the box: just "point-and-shoot". while the regular k850 users (average consumer)are left scratching their heads, end up with dark photos and an out-of-sync flash because they hold their phones a certain way.

glorfingal
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Posted: 2007-11-14 18:29
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Well I'll have my 2 penneth worth as well - I really wish I'd never got the 850.
I shoul dhave stayed with my trusty, reliable, dependable k810.
Much better in terms of point and shoot. quicker UI response in fact better
all round.

I really don't hold much hope of the firmware fixing it either.

Unlike some I'm still waiting for Orange UK to make a decision as to whether
my problems warrant a replacement (bad pictures, reboots, operation failed
etc) or not !!!

Now currently seriously considering going over to the "dark side" and getting
an N series
I reject your reality and substitute my own.
Dextrr
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Posted: 2007-11-14 18:31
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augustborn9917:

My thoughts exactly! A camera-phone is just a that; turn the camera on, point and shoot! No need to fiddle with extensive settings and sub-menus to take a semi-decent picture. It's all about easy of use.

Do I have to use the 'twilight mode' every time I need the xenon flash to fire? Isn't there an 'AUTO' mode in the K850 to take care of everything for me?
plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-11-14 18:41
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1.
look at the "post your pictures taken with k850" thread...
what do you see ???? i see one of the best pictures ever taken with a cell phone (i also own a k750, (and w810, k800, k810)...and non of this cameras take better pictures then k850.........no doubt about that.
(sure, perfect sunshine, and you get good pictures with k750, etc...but when you dont have perfect sunshine...how does your k750 pictures looks then ??? (not good at all i can say)
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if i guess, its something wrong with your camera software, (i doubt its a hardware fault)
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i think this prove everything..(and it realy prove that you have something wrong with your camera-software)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8199/dsc01211se9.jpg


http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2354/dsc00488rs8.jpg


http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3305/dsc02602ew4.jpg


http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8223/dsc02344vx5.jpg
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Duran
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Posted: 2007-11-14 19:03
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Meh, my k750 can do that too, but then without the oil paint






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plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-11-14 19:40
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k850 take beetter Macro then k750....(much much better sharpness)...one BIG reason is because k750 lack real flash, the second reason is because k750 have a smaller lens...and so on.

oil paint..are you kidding............the macro picture on the Cat have awesome sharpness & natural colors.....(remember that the picture is in full size, which your isnt !!!!!!

k750 take realy good daylight pictures..(exactley what you just showed us...he he he

ps..im NOT saying this because i favo k850, im saying this because i have many pictures from both phones, and i easily see the difference................

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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-14 18:43 ]
Duran
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Posted: 2007-11-14 20:00
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Yes i agree, the cat picture is really good.
But the picture of your daughter/sister (?) shows oilpaint, even if you view it resized.
Also, i experience this on my own pictures. Some look painting-like even when im just viewing them in windows picture viewer
croatia
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Posted: 2007-11-14 21:04
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with k750 you can go on paper just 10x15cm with k850 you can go 20x30cm and more duran what you talking about?i think s.e. is just hurry up in u.k. with europremiere of k850 and he is full of bugs because most of you unhappy are from u.k. dont go on nokia its a sin stay proudly behind s.e.
number1
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Posted: 2007-11-14 21:26
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the k800i does the best macros better than the k850i heres my macro

marinedisco
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Posted: 2007-11-14 21:28
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I will have to agree that there are some things that I am truly disapointed in about this phone. When taking outdoor photos there is too much white out! The shots indoors seem to be hard to capture clear and in focus. Moving people in them seem to apear as ghosts. I have been trying many different settings but on each photo I get the same results.

It is sluggish, slower than the K800, and I reboot it daily. The key's at the top of the key pad are too close together, (soft keys to the call, C, and hangup buttons) when I hangup the soft key sometimes gets pressed and I don't have big fingers.

I still am going to keep it as I am willing to "ruff it out" untill the new firmware is released. I think se knows this has been a major blunder releasing it too soon.. this is why I believe they want to get the firmware right to correct those problems. We did seem to wait forever for it to be released though.

On the positive side of things, I love the flash and video, as well as the browser.. IMHO


plankgatan
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Posted: 2007-11-14 21:41
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@number1....you very wrong...k850 take better Macro then k800/k810..
have you tried macro with k850 ????
(i was kind enough to shrinked your picture.....it should look realy perfect because i shrinked it, but it isnt)...the colors looks to bleached....and its NOT close distance, (much easily to shoot Macro when its not realy close...the close distance is the whole point with macro).

show me one macro picture from k750, k800, N95....who manage this quality WITH ONLY INDOOR LIGHT AND WITH THIS CLOSE DISTANCE, (no flash of course).....you cant.

k850 is easily the Macro king.




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croatia
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Posted: 2007-11-14 21:43
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when you take a pics of moving people try with sport mode?
Duran
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Posted: 2007-11-14 21:58
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On 2007-11-14 21:41:31, plankgatan wrote:
show me one macro picture from k750, k800, N95....who manage this quality WITH ONLY INDOOR LIGHT AND WITH THIS CLOSE DISTANCE, (no flash of course).....you cant.

k850 is easily the Macro king.



this close enough for you:P?
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