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My N95 and the Forest (A blog post) |
sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-27 17:55:10, amnesia wrote:
lol he means the names of the roads.
When you say v11, do you mean v11 of Smart2Go?
Or are you talking about firmware? I'm sure i have the latest firmware thats for sure.
Ah, okay. Thanks for the geography lesson. 
Yup. I was talking about the upgrade that has been released. It takes the phone from V10 to V11. The phone responds faster and supposedly GPS is faster. I do not know as the moment I got home with my phone I immediately upgraded to V11. To check go *#0000# and this will tell you the f/w version you have.
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LasseMan
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On 2007-05-27 11:55:27, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-05-27 11:41:02, LasseMan wrote:
I'm so glad I didn't go for a N95 because of this. 
Think about this for a moment. If that were the case, you wouldn't have a phone at all. Name one, just one phone that is without any flaws. In this very forum there are two super long threads still complaining about the k800i, and the P990 that are almost a year old. Get my point. Your statement while understandable, is a bit short sighted at best. Phones have problems. People demand new, better, faster, and they want it now. Many are not willing to wait though, with you being in this crowd it seems. I have an N95 with problems but I also know that Nokia has a better track record of trying to meet customer satisfaction than SE.
Dude.... I think you need to make sure you understand what people mean before you write a long post about it.
My point was that I'm glad I didn't buy it because I'm after a high class GPS, which the N95 lacks. I wasn't talking about bugs in phones in general. |
sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-27 23:31:14, LasseMan wrote:
On 2007-05-27 11:55:27, sapporobaby wrote:
On 2007-05-27 11:41:02, LasseMan wrote:
I'm so glad I didn't go for a N95 because of this.
Think about this for a moment. If that were the case, you wouldn't have a phone at all. Name one, just one phone that is without any flaws. In this very forum there are two super long threads still complaining about the k800i, and the P990 that are almost a year old. Get my point. Your statement while understandable, is a bit short sighted at best. Phones have problems. People demand new, better, faster, and they want it now. Many are not willing to wait though, with you being in this crowd it seems. I have an N95 with problems but I also know that Nokia has a better track record of trying to meet customer satisfaction than SE.
Dude.... I think you need to make sure you understand what people mean before you write a long post about it.
My point was that I'm glad I didn't buy it because I'm after a high class GPS, which the N95 lacks. I wasn't talking about bugs in phones in general.
Well, you could write a bit more than one sentence don't you think? You were not too clear.
High class GPS: Garmin GPSMap60 CSx. There you go. Solved your issue for you. This has the SIRF Star III chipset and can get a lock on at least 5 satellites in less than 45 seconds from a cold start. I know because I have one.
Do a search, and you will see the "love" that this unit gets from its owners and fans.
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LasseMan
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On 2007-05-27 23:41:09, sapporobaby wrote:
Well, you could write a bit more than one sentence don't you think? You were not too clear.
Well, since it only was once sentence, as you pointed out, I didn't excpect a reply either. Anyway, you seem to want to help people so fair enough.
About the GPS, I'll probably look into a good external bluetooth solution, but thanks for the tip. |
bondizi
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Let me make it clear I am not a Nokia fan.
I am a P990 fanboy actually. However, this needs to be said for fairness.
I have used my P990 with TomTom 6 and the LD-3W GPS receiver extensively. One of my friends recently got an N95 and was talking it up to no end, so I challenged him to swap phones for a week so I could point out the failings of the N95.
It turns out the damn thing kicked my ass back to believing in Nokia, as far as GPS navigation goes. I shit you not. Yes, it took a couple minutes for it to get a lock on from a cold boot, however, unlike external receivers, the GPS in the N95 stays on while the phone is on, so once youre locked on, it stays locked. Even if it lost connection, e.g. in a tunnel or while under a flyover, it would lock back on much faster than the P990/TomTom/LD-3W combo I have. And it never took me into any forests, for the record 
It never took me anywhere I did not expect to go, while when I was in Boston last month the P990/TomTom/LD-3W deal took me round in circles (literally) around Commonwealth Avenue when going from downtown to the airport.
Although it was only a week's worth of navigation, as opposed to months of having the P990 and TomTom around, I was surprised...and impressed.
Just my 2 cents.
PS the camera in the N95 is stunning. There have been several reports of over-sharpening in the produced images, but this can actually be turned off before taking the shot. Looks like a bug in the firmware. AllAboutSymbian has a new post about this today:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.co[....]a_N95_in_camera_bug_shocke.php
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shug
Joined: Nov 05, 2003
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That wasn't the gps that was the (beta) map software. I have compared the built in gps to my Holux GPSlim 236 (which is a good bluetooth unit sporting the sirfIII chip) tracking round the same route using Nokia Sporttracker software. Although the start up time is almost twice as long as the Holux when it starts going it produces just as accurate measurements. Even with the keypad closed and placed in a padded camera bag on my hip and under a jacket it had no problems relaying my true position. If Nokia could just build in better satellite prediction memory and cut down the start time- and if TomTom could hurry up a bit- then it's bye-bye Holux.
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-28 09:14:50, shug wrote:
That wasn't the gps that was the (beta) map software. I have compared the built in gps to my Holux GPSlim 236 (which is a good bluetooth unit sporting the sirfIII chip) tracking round the same route using Nokia Sporttracker software. Although the start up time is almost twice as long as the Holux when it starts going it produces just as accurate measurements. Even with the keypad closed and placed in a padded camera bag on my hip and under a jacket it had no problems relaying my true position. If Nokia could just build in better satellite prediction memory and cut down the start time- and if TomTom could hurry up a bit- then it's bye-bye Holux.
[ This Message was edited by: shug on 2007-05-28 08:26 ]
Hopefully, fingers crossed everyone, there is a new upgrade coming that hopes to try and optimize the GPS software as much as possible. My friends at Nokia tell me that help is on the way, for the battery and the GPS.
Did everyone cross your fingers?
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amnesia
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yes I know it's most probably the software, although Sapporro kindly recommende that SIRF III would have been better. I also mentioned that I wished the program had more options.
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Falcon786
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Hold the phone in a clear area and a bit high at an angle towards the sky and go to view satellite info...i found this to increase pick up time and sometimes my phone even picks up in under twenty seconds!!yes you cant expect total accuracy especially where parallel roads are close as only the military gps systems can currently pin point you to the nearest meter.i find the n95 gps is ok as a bye the way device to show you where you are but obviously at the end of the day no tech is fool proof and you gotta use your common sense to know where exactly you are headed...stop simply relying on voice commands as i've even seen the nav system on my merc tell me to take the wrong turn once or twice!
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amnesia
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Sadly I'm not able to hold it up and to the sky when i'm driving 
However the issue I'm pointing out is not that the voice was wrong on an occassion, rather that it completely maps an inconveniant and long route.
As mentioned the purpose of the blog post is to show people not to rely too much on it even though Nokia advertise it as a full fledged GPS device.
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sapporobaby
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On 2007-05-28 21:18:28, amnesia wrote:
Sadly I'm not able to hold it up and to the sky when i'm driving
However the issue I'm pointing out is not that the voice was wrong on an occassion, rather that it completely maps an inconveniant and long route.
As mentioned the purpose of the blog post is to show people not to rely too much on it even though Nokia advertise it as a full fledged GPS device.
Hey Amnesia,
try this to help with the navigation. Delete your current maps on the mem card and download them again. People have reported that this seems to work rather well in fixing their problems. Also there is a great forum over on Nokia that talks about the N95.
Cheers and salaams.
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sapporobaby
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One key component that no one has mentioned here is that the N95 uses A-GPS. So as long as this is not implemented the cold start times will be slower.
By the way, the N95 is not capable of getting a cold start lock in less than 45 seconds. Nokia verified this fact.
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amnesia
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I'll try putting on the maps again to see if it'll help routing.
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Falcon786
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On 2007-05-29 11:49:57, sapporobaby wrote:
One key component that no one has mentioned here is that the N95 uses A-GPS. So as long as this is not implemented the cold start times will be slower.
By the way, the N95 is not capable of getting a cold start lock in less than 45 seconds. Nokia verified this fact.
Well then maybe i got a bug but i can assure you it's a positive bug as once or twice my phone definitely got a lock in much less than 45 seconds and i dont need nokia to time it for me lol.but amnesia you are right ppl shouldn't over estimate the gps system on this phone as usually lock on takes average two min up to six min.oh and you can always hold it out the car window to face the sky(dont blame me for any accidents or tickets using this method ) use your logic man...and obviously that's just for lock on and after that it picks up easily.
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Falcon786
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Hey amnesia do you remember if you took any photos of the forest lol would be cool to check the forest on that cam quality
Hehehe...
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