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Has any one got a 7210 here |
Johan
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I dont take anything personally!
Its just rather tiresome to hear a lot of people saying that Nokia and or the 7210 sucks when most of the people commenting it havnt even seen the phone.. | |
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On 2002-11-11 18:02, Super G wrote:
Go try a 7210 for yourself, and decide 
I like T68i too, but:
it looks a bit fatty (though the design is nice too), old and common now
It is not customizable (no Java)
No poly ringtone (buh)
Cheap color screen (it is to colors what Lada is to cars  )
No FM radio
Though, it still stands competition 
and...
You'll need to reflash it 7 times, get it replaced 5 times
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Dont you say bad things about LADA. it an example of fine ruusian autoengeneering......
and yes, i did like my 7210...but i like thegd87 wayyyy more.....and i simply love my t68i..so i can't give that up...so i got 2 68s + gd....
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aaronkhoo
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johan:
so we'd be correct in saying that you don't mention names in your telephone conversations? besides, unless you are some celebrity, i doubt anyone would be paying enough attention to you to note that you're voice dialing.
and the 'frivalous' features on my T68m? feel free to shell out more money for a Bluetooth-ed Nokia when, slowly but surely, every other electronic device becomes Bluetooth-ed. oh, and your Nokia does not have 'Real' Java. it's a scaled-down version. also, why does your statement imply that the T68-s have 'Fake' Java [whatever that is], when they most certainly don't?
hello. the T300 is MEANT to be a kids phone. how else do you explain the polyphony, 'neoprint' camera & interchangable faceplates. [to capture the (bleuagh) Nokia market, no doubt]. it's a brick so that it's cheap. that's called bringing colour to the masses. not everyone can afford a 7210 or even a T68.
no, polyphony is by no means an advantage over monophony. the reason why i bought a T68m instead of holding on for a polyphonic device. i tried out my aunt's 7650 for a week, and i was not impressed by the endless missed calls while i was watching TV or doing anything more than mantaining silence. polyphonic ringtones are almost impossible to hear over anything more than normal speaking volume, let alone from the next room. i imagine the polyphony would be drowned out by the 'oohs' and 'ahhs' from the people 'wow-ing' over it.
and, please, enough with the FM radios already. most people who need/want one already do. so they now have one in their phone. yippie. don't start with the convienience issue. if you can't pack an extra device into what you're already bringing out with you, then leave it at home. who needs a set of earphones to cramp their style?
and i can't blame Nokia for sticking to their age-old interface. if they move up to anything more complex, they'll lose more than half their customers. there's a reason why Nokias are so idiot-proof, and that lies in their customer base.
and though i agree the 7250 is a horrendous monstrosity, you seriously gave up the offer of a camera and more memory for 50 euros?
oh, and, no, i didn't feel sad when the T68i came out, cause i easily obtained a software upgrade to it for S$12 [plus a CD and user guide]. and if i need the [rather superfical] outer casing to reflect the upgrade, i can have it changed for roughly S$50. S$62 for a brand-new phone. not bad, eh?
now, for super g:
i have to agree with you about the blue 7210. it's the least offensive one. why? because the 7210 has a blue keypad. in my opinion, it doesn't gel well with any other covers.
oh, yes, it is fast. but which would run faster? Windows 3.11 for Workgroups or Windows XP?
my T68m's light can help me navigate my pitch-black kitchen at midnight. bright enough for you?
what exactly are 'sharp' colours?
again, don't get me started on built-in FM radios.
my experience with loudspeakers hasn't been very good. [from land-line phones to the 7650 and 7210] but i'm sure, you busy yuppie, can make do with that paltry one since you need it for your daily conference calls with your colleauges, no doubt?
wow. you can download new games. and i thought playing the ones installed were sad enough. games that require a larger screen to pull off really shouldn't be squeezed onto a tiny screen. give me full-fat [PDA, GameBoy, PC, etc], thanks. such a feature that installs new apps would be best appreciated in a phone if it were a smartphone. [read: phone/PDA hybrid]
themes, backgrounds, TriBand: check, check, check.
a usb port on your Nokia? could you point that out for me, please?
oh, that's a Pop-Port. Nokia's way of joining Ericsson's fray. by the way, Ericsson simply calls it 'the connector at the bottom of your phone'.
polyphony - i think i've laid that one out already. if you want music, go listen to your [ooh!] radio.
oh. only now you're discovering the usefulness of downloading graphics and audio over WAP and a PC Suite?
ah, a dual uplink. that would be useful if you could attach audio to your MMS messages, so there'd actually be significantly more data to take advantage of dual uplinks.
isn't it a bit dangerous to have one eye/hand on the road with another eye/hand on your Nokia to dial someone's number. i say, take adavantage of your headset, wired or wireless. [oops, you don't have *that* option] it's more than just for talking on.
even if you don't drive, seriously: tapping away on your phone's easier and more natural than speaking directly into it?
although i'd like to be able to proudly claim that i have never required a flash on my phone's firmware, unfortunately that is no longer so. if only i didn't want to upgrade my T68m to a T68i. darn.
netguy2:
finally, correct usage of the word 'sharp'. but how, pray tell, can white be yellow? if it's white, it's white. if it's yellow, it's yellow. make up your mind [the reason why Nokias need X-press On covers - fickle minds]
i think it's nice you spend most of your time in quiet places. just get out into the sun once in a while, ok?
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i've always prided myself on being an Ericsson user - i've managed to convert many a friend, and even my own father. [until he converted when the 8850 came out. he also bought the 8910, which cost 4 times as much as my T68 and does 4 times less] my Ericsson linage goes from the GH388 to the T18sc, T28sc, [got 2 of them, the first one conked out a week or so after it was dropped into the loo.] and my present phone, the T68m[i].
i like to think of an Ericsson as a Saab - it might take some getting used to, but it's a all-performance underneath. intelligent, stylish and robust, without needing to scream it.
a Nokia is more of a Mercedes-Benz. you can steer one with a finger, but you can't do much with it. opulent, mostly in foul taste, and screams 'i'm a sheep/fashion victim'.
Nokia Users: You are the Weakest Links. Goodbye.
[ This Message was edited by: aaronkhoo on 2002-11-11 19:16 ] |
ryanzb
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wow. this guy must be the biggest ericsson fanboy anywhere.
i guess that makes two of us! |
Froddan
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No offence, but I'd choose a M-B over a Saab anytime |
aaronkhoo
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Well, so would i. You can buy two Saabs with one Mercedes-Benz :-D
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MrSavoy
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aaronkhoo
That was a hell of a funny post. I say cheers to you dude! Well said and well put.
-Savoy
T68M->I (LunaGrey)<-My Fav(R5C001)
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ppcrockar
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Well to say that the T300 has "limited gamepossibilities" is not true. The Mophun engine is very good, infact the Mophun games are very good. I believe that Mophun is superior to Java when it comes to games. But on the other hand Java has the upper hand when it comes to "applications".
My complaint on the themes, was that you can't make your own themes.... that really limits the usefulness.
And my complaint about the menu structure of the Nokia was simply that the interface was fine on simple phones with limited features. No it doesn't give enough overview of the menus. You have to learn in which order the options is placed or you have to browse until you find the correct one.
And sure the reason the T300 sounds better is because it has more midi-channels, and the 7210 has better color display just because it has more colors.
I think the comparision between the 7210 and the T300 is fair. Both have poly-tones, downloadable games, lacks bluetooth and voice dialing. Feature-wise they are almost the same. The T300 doesn't have FM-radio but you can buy that as an accessory and it would still be far cheaper if you like FM radio.
And as I said before the MMS implementation on the SE phones are far superior to the Nokia.
The T28 is really slow. But the newer Ericsson phones are not slow. I think the T68 is fast enough at least with the later upgrades... in the beginning it was slow. But I can't write faster than the phone handles, and the menu scrolling is quite fast.
And the T300 isn't that big. It's not a brick... it looks big, but it isn't. I compared my mothers T300 to my T68 side by side and the T300 is not much bigger than the T68... it looks much bigger, but when you actually compare the 2 phones the size difference is very small.
And don't say that the T300 has a childish look. The 7210 does have a childish look. It's the perfect example of a phone with a childish look. The Nokia 6610 looks so much better.
And besides the T300 is half the price of the 7210... |
Johan
Joined: Dec 08, 2001
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Haha!.. i must congratulate aaronkhoo on his great car/phone comparison! a good laugh there!
Really like your point tha:t "Nokia doesnt upgrade their OS cause the Nokia-users are to dumb to manage anything else" *LOL*
Note!.. there´s still a reason why Nokia is the worldmarket leader..
And.. there´s a reason why both Sony Ericsson and Ericsson are falling companies..
Further on, there is also a reason why a lot more people chose MB over Saab =)
[ This Message was edited by: Johan on 2002-11-11 20:10 ] |
Raven
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Another pointless thread packed up with SE-fanboys/employees trying to convince themselves and others that their T68 is still the most advanced phone on the market.... -Which anyone who's got the smallest grasp on mobil-technology can tell you is not true. 
It's still a very decent handset though!
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ppcrockar
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IMHO the T68 is still the best mobile phone on the market, without a doubt. But the other manufacturers are closing in, but there are still no phone that can compete with the T68.
BTW this is a Ericsson forum and people here like Ericsson phones, and they require more from their phones than the average consumer does. People here will not settle for phones which lacks the rich feature set that Ericsson phones has... |
Raven
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I'm not disputing the fact that the t68 is feature rich(i should know, i've owned one for almost a year), but IMHO it's lacking some of the important \"up to date\" features which doesn't make it \"the best\" phone on the market anymore....
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Froddan
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@ Raven
I agree, it's a good phone, but the main set back is the screen.
Now that MMS is getting popular, a 256 color screen just won't do.
As someone here said, in another thread: I had my friends pic as a
caller ID on my phone, and showed it to him. He asked what a f**k
is that... Says the most about the screen. |
aaronkhoo
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@johan
i liked what you said about Nokia users. but if you'd re-read my post, that isn't what i said about them at all.
when did i ever deny that Nokia's the world market leader? not everyone needs a full-function phone, and that's when they can safely throw their money at a Nokia without regret. after all, a phone's basically just to talk on, isn't it? anything else's a bonus. then again, as you said, not everyone's capable of utilizing all the features of a too-advanced phone either.
you forgot to add Saab to your list of failing companies. but take note of this: Saab's customer base is almost exclusively filled with degree-holdling professionals. i certainly can't say the same for Mercedes-Benz.
@Raven
the T68 is the most advanced phone on the market? i would have thought that satellite phones that allow me to chat in Antartica and smartphones like the Handspring Treo would have overtaken it already.
@Froddan
why are we complaining about the colour screen? you sound like the Palm m130 users, cheated of a 65K-colour screen. note that this phone was brought to us a long, long time before Nokia's/Siemens'/Motorola's/Panasonic's/etc. would you expect GameBoy Advance performance on a GameBoy Colour? |
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This sounds just like Nokia threads I have read, they Hipe up the brand new Nokias and say they are better than the T68i, I say fine, let them, If they must compare there brand new phone to one that is a year old to convince themselves of this and say wow look how much cooler this one is. In some cases yes, The new phones have java, poly etc, but hey just wait till the follow up to this one comes out!!!
Then they will all be crying for real!!!
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Posted: 2002-11-11 18:40
