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DCUK7
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If the K800i had the same CCD sensor as the S700i we would be declaring it the ultimate camera phone! |
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You may not like the idea of camera phones but it's a great move, think about it, if phones didn't start to have good camera's like 3.2 and 2 megapixels then camera company's would never of bothered to put higher megapixel's in there own compact camera's so soon.
All compact camera's will be 7 mp or more before long and phone camera's will be 5 mp.
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alandigby
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Why would any normal person want or need a 7MP camera? Apart from the fact that everyone must have something that is percieved to be "better" than the one their mate just bought. More pixels doesn't mean better quality pictures.
As far as phone cams go, i'd MUCH rather have a higher quality 2MP camera in my next phone than have one with another megapixel or two that can't actually give good results.
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What lenses do Samsung use in there mobiles? Im really shocked at how the 3.2mp NOKIA pictures are there brill infact I mite get me a NOKIA N93 its outta this world that phone lol
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On 2006-08-28 23:41:29, ~DC:UK~ wrote:
If the K800i had the same CCD sensor as the S700i we would be declaring it the ultimate camera phone!
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The S700 CCD is 1.3MP, and while good, the 3.2MP of the K800 is just as good but with more MP's.
BTW, sony have started using CMOS in their cybershot range (starting with a 10MP jobbie). CMOS is fast becoming as good quality as CCD, but cheaper with less power consumption, so CCD will disappear in all but the most high end equipment (if it doesn't disappear altogether)
About Carl Zeiss lenses, the Sony Cybershot range nearly all have Carl Zeiss lenses, only a few have Sony made lenses.
The K750/K800 have Sony manufactured lenses.
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On 2006-08-28 22:18:08, alandigby wrote:
In most phones, it does seem that the limiting factor is rarely (if ever?) the lens. surely the CCD or whatever sensing devices they're using are the weak points, with a general lack of ability to pick out fine details, cope with low light or deal with high contrasts in images?
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The S700 CCD is 1.3MP, the K800 has 3.2MP. I'll take the 3.2MP thank you. CCD technology is slowly becoming as good as CMOS. Even Sony are using a 10MP CMOS in one of the high end cybershot cameras.
Regarding Carl Zeiss, most cybershot cameras have Carl Zeiss lenses, so I don't think there is any exclusive contract with Nokia?? Other Sony cameras have Sony made lenses.
Regarding SE camera phones, from the K750 onwards they have used Sony manufactured camera modules (and lenses).
Sony use Carl Zeiss lenses in most of the Cybershot range.
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REALGS
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Sony's lenses (for phones) are as good as CZ's.We saw how good N90's CZ are .Double expensive N90 made worst pics than K750i.
Lens is not enough for taking good pics.
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On 2006-08-29 16:07:04, REALGS wrote:
Sony's lenses (for phones) are as good as CZ's.We saw how good N90's CZ are .Double expensive N90 made worst pics than K750i.
Lens is not enough for taking good pics.
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Lens are not enough to take good pics? You've gotta be kidding |
ares
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actually he´s right...together with lens, you need good internal software, and a good sensor...
Sony´s best camera ever, launched this year (the dslr one) uses Minolta´s lens, and not CZ
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Arne Anka
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On 2006-08-29 18:38:10, QVGA wrote:
Lens are not enough to take good pics? You've gotta be kidding
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A good lens can't make up for a bad sensor, poor software processing or other lousy electonic or mechanic. CZ may be one of the best lenses around. But it sure does not show when used in mobile phones. |
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the fact the K750 has a worse lense, but still produces better pictures shows that the Sony electronics is inherrently better. A K750 is a Camera Phone. The N90 is a phone with a camera tacked on.
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