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hpm70 = a damage to your hearing ! |
jack77777
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i think if we follow the 6 rule then we should be ok:
60% volume
for no more than 60mins
for no more than 6 times a week | |
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QVGA
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It also depends on what kind of equilizer settings you have. Mega bass isnt just going to make u hearing impaired, but insane aswell. |
mart89
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On 2006-08-01 21:42:08, QVGA wrote:
It also depends on what kind of equilizer settings you have. Mega bass isnt just going to make u hearing impaired, but insane aswell.
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Megabass was nice on the K750i's standard headset, but on the HPM-70 the standard setting even has too much bass for me somethimes! |
sapporobaby
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On 2006-08-01 21:30:28, jack77777 wrote:
i think if we follow the 6 rule then we should be ok:
60% volume
for no more than 60mins
for no more than 6 times a week
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Dude, did you read what you wrote before you hit the enter key? Hearing is subjective. It depends on age of the listener, type of music, frequencies involved, dynamics of the music, quality of the headphones (better ones reproduce sound best in most cases), etc. Second, which "we" are you talking about? I listen to my headphones everyday, sometimes less than 6 hours, sometimes more. Sometimes loud, sometimes soft. I think I am in a better position to know what is appropriate for me and what not, as are the other thread participants. Maybe you were trying to help and I hate to be pedantic, but I think I can decide what is best for my hearing and I promise I will not come running to you saying you were right.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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tupac1
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well the hpm-70 is a good alternative to not going deaf as they are in ear phones. Blocks off some of the background noises (like people talking etc) so you wouldn't have to TURN up the volume to cancel out un wanted sound.
i listen to music for about 12 hrs a day ever since i got the hissing off my w800i XD XD
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mart89
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On 2006-08-01 22:06:31, tupac1 wrote:
well the hpm-70 is a good alternative to not going deaf as they are in ear phones. Blocks off some of the background noises (like people talking etc) so you wouldn't have to TURN up the volume to cancel out un wanted sound.
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Good point! It sure does, I was amazed I didn't expect it would block that much sound. With the old K750 headset i was annoyed by my dad listening different music than me on his car, very annoying. Now with the HPM-70 I dont hear it at all anymore, even with no music at all! |
tupac1
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XD XD XD |
jack77777
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On 2006-08-01 21:52:59, sapporobaby wrote:
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On 2006-08-01 21:30:28, jack77777 wrote:
i think if we follow the 6 rule then we should be ok:
60% volume
for no more than 60mins
for no more than 6 times a week
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Dude, did you read what you wrote before you hit the enter key? Hearing is subjective. It depends on age of the listener, type of music, frequencies involved, dynamics of the music, quality of the headphones (better ones reproduce sound best in most cases), etc. Second, which "we" are you talking about? I listen to my headphones everyday, sometimes less than 6 hours, sometimes more. Sometimes loud, sometimes soft. I think I am in a better position to know what is appropriate for me and what not, as are the other thread participants. Maybe you were trying to help and I hate to be pedantic, but I think I can decide what is best for my hearing and I promise I will not come running to you saying you were right.
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lol that reply was pontless , why tell me about other headphones or other volumes , when the topic clerarlt states this is a hpm70 affair also i got the info about the 6 rule from a newz reprt on my homepaige , anyway i cba with any arguments ......
but as i said 60% volume on normal setting for no longer than 60minutes , for no longer than 6 times a week i beleive is fine 
also when your 60 yrs old its been proven that people who listen to music with head phones on or sit near speakers or subwoofers are prone to go deaf when they are 60 , im gonna wait till tomoro till i cotinue listening to give my ears a rest |
tupac1
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let there be love |
sapporobaby
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You are talking about a headphone that is not that good. They are okay if you do not have anything else. A better set of headphones that provide a better sound-proofing seal will not damage your hearing as they capture more more of the sound without having to turn it up.
As I say again and maybe you will understand it. Hear is subjective. What works for you, might not be applicable for someone else. Mart89 (or 98 please forgive) listens to music loudly and he says he has no problems as do others here. You "information" is giving as advice, and not definitive. Just because you read it does not make it the de-facto standard for everyone.
*edited on a Mac of course. Mac: There is no substitute*
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sapporobaby
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@Tupac1,
No anger mate. Just a debate. To different points of view on the same matter.
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On 2006-08-01 19:54:42, jack77777 wrote:
i was listening to music on my w800i with hpm70 , and after about 15 mins my ear's started stinging inside so i took them out and waited about 5 hourse then plugged them in again on aroud 40% wlume and could bareley hear anything , before i coudl hear the music at 40% volume loud and clear , my eardrum's will probably heal overnight , but i think over time if i kept listening with my hpm70 earphone's , my ears might one day not heal , and later in life become partially deaf !
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hmm... from what im gathering on this situation is you may have slotted these earphones uncomfortably into your ears which caused the stinging. I get this alot from my apple ipod ones but never with the sonys as they're design is smaller.
However this sudden decrease in sound i believe has nothing to do with your hearing. Remember you should frequently clean your earbuds as they will attract wax build up as nasty as it sounds  lol and every once in a while clean your ears. hehe
My suggestion for the stinging would be to be more careful and gently slot them into your ears and perhaps not push them so far into your ears. |
mad4mobiles
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Ooops, i listen to then nearly everyday at full titl, gotta stop that like didnt think it was that bad!! 
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max_wedge
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On 2006-08-01 21:30:28, jack77777 wrote:
i think if we follow the 6 rule then we should be ok:
60% volume
for no more than 60mins
for no more than 6 times a week
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Dude, you need to get your ears checked out...
I listen to the hpm-70 at 80% volume regularly, for a couple of hours on end or more, and never suffer hearing loss. I have 39 year old ears.
I tell you what though, if you use megabase on doof doof tracks at 80% you WILL damage your ears (it actually hurts my ears at full volume + megabase - but I am 39). But then at that volume level the megabase distorts the sound so bad you could hardly call it "music", so I really question the use of megabase and not the volume as such. Try it without megabase (just pump up the equaliser a bit instead) and you should be fine.
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max_wedge
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On 2006-08-01 22:43:05, sapporobaby wrote:
You are talking about a headphone that is not that good. They are okay if you do not have anything else. A better set of headphones that provide a better sound-proofing seal will not damage your hearing as they capture more more of the sound without having to turn it up.
As I say again and maybe you will understand it. Hear is subjective. What works for you, might not be applicable for someone else. Mart89 (or 98 please forgive) listens to music loudly and he says he has no problems as do others here. You "information" is giving as advice, and not definitive. Just because you read it does not make it the de-facto standard for everyone.
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Agree the HPM-70 isn't that good (compared to a decent headphone) but it still good enough for me (and my pocket book at the moment) that I can put up with it. I certainly don't need to jack up the equaliser to full to hear anything as some peeps claim. I installed the hybrid audio driver, which actually made the sound output higher, improves megabase distortion (still unlistenable though) and improves the general audio quality substantially.
The hybrid improvements are obvious on the HPM-70 headset - I didn't have to use my sennheiser's (full ear muffs) to confirm the improvement.
However it must be stated, my hearing tops out at between 17-18K, so I'm not the best person to judge audio quality. 
But as you say it's all subjective.
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