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max_wedge
Joined: Aug 29, 2004
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On 2006-07-08 19:29:21, sailaab wrote:
@Upper- Its not members 'responsibility' ehh  ! Bro then you haven't got the ethos of this place! Cant say beyond that . . . . . . . . . .@Sammy Ol Man- Hold on n Keep Up the Effort Buddy.. Gandhi started off Solo too .. .. .. .. But then as Upper feels (except Laffen, who by virtue of Starting Esato- is first an Owner) not U, not Masseur, not Boba, not Whiz, not Slattery, Not JoJo, Not Nobody is 'responsible' ya! "Not My Job"  ? Lets just dig into a free Site, a cess pool of info on the platter..
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Well said Sailaab! Spot on.
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I think it's actually like you are just quoting it, not claiming it as your own work or making money from it. So it might be alright. I think to be proper, one should quote the source as well as the news story when posting news stories.
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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no, its not alright to just copy it here, even if you post a link to the original
for example, here is the BBC Copyright Notice where it is made clear that any copy is only for personal non-commercial use. This would not therefore include posting it up on another site.
Most online sites have such a notice and even if they do not explicitly state this, it will be implied by some other means such as a simple copyright statement etc
some sites state that you can paraphase their text, but sometimes they even limit how much can be paraphrased.
its a complicated area and generally its best to put a few words of your own and link people to the full details
press releases, on the other hand, are perfectly ok to reproduce because that is their purpose.
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leeboy13
Joined: Sep 28, 2005
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hence why people miss teh old news... coz it was done properly and legally 
its not a moan mate if anything its to understand better of how we possibly could all comtribute the proper way
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masseur
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I know you're not moaning and I miss it too, but there it is and we have to move on.
people probably got lazy because of the good job being done before but I can see that some good effort is starting to be put in by other people now
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Krubach
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I fully agree with masseur.
Mods here are just members as we are. The only difference is their increased responsability and effort.
If people miss axxxr and his news, why don't you take the iniciative a work as axxxr did, or you will only do it if you want the "news editor" title?
I own a website with a small forum in it, and i get to the conclusion that people are always trying to be the first and/or get something in return if they do something.
This is why we can call Esato a community, because everybody give their contribution without expecting anything in return.
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*Jojo*
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About those 'copyright' issues . . . even some images are prohibited (copyright) to be uploaded here as it has been an issue before . . . eg: Playboy Playmates and . . . Superman  but they are not celfone related to start with  but I was informed by the CEO then . . .
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max_wedge
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It's a complicated area where answers aren't always clear. I've seen many posts on esato where peeps have cut and paste, and somtimes with no link to the original story. That's why I said AT A MINIMUM, one should quote the source, and link to it as well if possible.
You are allowed to legally quite material under fair use provisions in many cases:
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Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright.
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The following purposes are considered suitable Fair Use:
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Criticism
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http://www.benedict.com/Info/Law/FairUse.aspx (taken from the Copy Right Act, Fair Use section 107.)
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whizkidd
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I had posted some articles the week after axxxr had left...but noticed that many others were doing the same as well....to the extent that the forum was almost "spammed"!
I am not criticsizing any one but i thought it would be better if one person posted the article and so, I stopped..now i see that the other guys have stopped as well!
It would be better if someone who is readdy for the job comes forward and posts stuff.
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Evil Eye
Joined: Jun 23, 2004
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its time to lock this topic 
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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why?
the discussion has evolved into one about members posting news items and the issues surrounding that
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upper
Joined: Apr 17, 2004
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On 2006-07-08 19:29:21, sailaab wrote:
@Upper- Its not members 'responsibility' ehh ! Bro then you haven't got the ethos of this place! Cant say beyond that . . . . . . . . . .@Sammy Ol Man- Hold on n Keep Up the Effort Buddy.. Gandhi started off Solo too .. .. .. .. But then as Upper feels (except Laffen, who by virtue of Starting Esato- is first an Owner) not U, not Masseur, not Boba, not Whiz, not Slattery, Not JoJo, Not Nobody is 'responsible' ya! "Not My Job" ? Lets just dig into a free Site, a cess pool of info on the platter..
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Dont chat rubbish please, it will help you alot, and where does it say i have the responsibility in posting any sort of news? i dont see you posting news FULL STOP so until you walk the walk i advice not to make a fool of yourself. Of course people can post news at there own will but its not there responsible to do it, if they dont then there is no harm done and that person should not be looked down upon. TALK FROM THE FACTS.
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sailaab
Joined: May 19, 2005
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I am indeed sorry that you are offended  (and that I chat foolish ,rubbish) AND that I dont walk the talk nor have my facts rite..
I ought to be more careful and will try to be .. .. .. .. ..
Anyway, it'd give some reprive IMO now that axxxr is back summarar'ly.. #
@masseur- One doesn't Question the Evil Eye  if Evil Eye wishes a Topic iz to be locked.. its to be locked.. simple azzat
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