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Problem of storing pictures in T68i and T300 |
DJ Teknosys
Joined: Oct 20, 2002
Posts: 108
From: South Florida, USA
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I just got a T300, and I noticed the same problem. I download the pics by uploading themto my private gallery on the SonyEricsson site, then downloading them via WAP to the phone. The problem only seems to affect the new pictures, because when I deleted some pre-loaded stuff, the memory gained after deleteing seemed to be what the original size was. I hope SE is quick to release a fix for this... |
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caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
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From: Australia
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I believe its a common problem for all T68i, T68m(upgrade to T68i software) and T300, why would the phone used up far more memory size than their actual backgrounds size??? Anyone??? |
mkphil
Joined: Sep 16, 2002
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Is R2F the latest firmware released by SE? Mine is R2E. I use irDA to upload anything to my T68ie and I dont get any problems with the file size. I just bought it 2 weeks ago.
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caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
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From: Australia
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But if you go to my pictures and click on the picture's info, it will show that pic's actual size, but if you go to memory status, and then go to my pictures, it will show u then actual memory size that T68i taken up, can u check your phone again to see if then actual memory size is larger ??? |
caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
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From: Australia
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Anyone can confirm this on your T68i/ T300 ??? I believe every T68i/ T300 all taken up much more memory size than their actual backgrounds size.......please confirm !!!! |
WildNomad
Joined: Oct 17, 2002
Posts: 113
From: Spain
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Confirmed, my T68i, which is R2E006, also exhibits the grown filesize problem. It seems to be independent from the source of the image as some of my images where transferred from an irDA port while others were downloaded via WAP...
Very strange indeed... |
caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
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From: Australia
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So is this a bug or that just the way sony ericsson phones allocate the memory size??? Should we report such problem to sony ericsson??? Because we would have been able to store far more backgrounds and themes etc if the phone actually take up the file's actual size instead of twice or three times than the actual size !! |
mkphil
Joined: Sep 16, 2002
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The size that u see in PICTURE INFO is the actual size of the picture while the size that you see in MEMORY STATUS is the size of memory consumed (size on disk) when it was saved. It has something to do wìth the file compresion format of the program that is being used. It is also the same in any Windows OS. Click properties on any windows file and you'll see that the actual file SIZE is different (smaller) from the SIZE ON DISK (larger).
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MatrixM
Joined: Oct 21, 2002
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It's because of the compression GiF files use. they use LZW compression. Thats the only difference between a gif file and a bmp. notice how much bigger bmp files are? I beleive what the T68i does is it uncompresses the gif file once it is saved, therefore doubling the size or more. I beleive this is done to save the processor power on the T68i. they sacrifice memory for speed and battery life. Not sure if any software upgrade can fix this.... 
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On 2002-10-21 10:19, mkphil wrote:
The size that u see in PICTURE INFO is the actual size of the picture while the size that you see in MEMORY STATUS is the size of memory consumed (size on disk) when it was saved. It has something to do wìth the file compresion format of the program that is being used. It is also the same in any Windows OS. Click properties on any windows file and you'll see that the actual file SIZE is different (smaller) from the SIZE ON DISK (larger).
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mkphil
Joined: Sep 16, 2002
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One thing that bothers me is why the THM size on disk is the same as the actual file size? Is it that these files are as is and doesn't need compression or decompression? It is also the same with the IMY/EMY files. If so, I think SE should make a picture file type of its own that will not need de/compression;-)
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MatrixM
Joined: Oct 21, 2002
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it's not the case with .imy or .emy files because those are just ascii text where as .gif is an LZW compressed binary bitmap. A faster processor would fix the problem.
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On 2002-10-21 10:47, mkphil wrote:
One thing that bothers me is why the THM size on disk is the same as the actual file size? Is it that these files are as is and doesn't need compression or decompression? It is also the same with the IMY/EMY files. If so, I think SE should make a picture file type of its own that will not need de/compression;-)
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caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
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From: Australia
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So what can we do ??? Or it just the way it is ?? |
mkphil
Joined: Sep 16, 2002
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Yes, its just as it is for now. The least SE could do is update the software so decompression will be less as it used to be.
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caff
Joined: Jun 14, 2002
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From: Australia
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I hope P800 aren't like this !!!! |
mkphil
Joined: Sep 16, 2002
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Maybe you have a software defect. My first T68 had an undetectable SW defect discovered when I took it to SE for upgrading. They replaced my board with a new 1. Have yours checked by your sp.;-)
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