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shaliron
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Posted: 2006-03-17 12:19
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@aquila2
Your secret has been revealed, and now you're probably sitting red-faced on your computer thinking of another excuse for the Blokia 6230's so called superiority. Face the facts, even if the Nokia sold more (which may or may not be true), at least admit that the K750 is the superior phone.
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Posted: 2006-03-17 13:23
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Here we go again:

k750 OS is faster and looks better
EDGE donīt mean shit for lots of people LOL
Crappy non-s60 nokias canīt minimize java apps, and have stupid 500kbs limit for java apps...even k700 hasnīt this problems
Both radio and mp3 sound better on k750
k750, like all SE phones, sync perfectly with Outlook



the UI is just personal opinion and people prefer nokias GUI way more SE GUI way too cumbersome and the missing green and red keys are a real burden for many people

well, to hell lot people EDGE means a hell lot

mp3 and radio player does not even come close to the nokia's. you cannot even control it over the headset not even on walkman phones nokia is way way ahead of SE

synchronization on SE phones compared to nokia sucks calendar and adressbook on SE ? a joke even nokia 3510i has better addressbook and way better calendar

shalirion: k750i is superior only ONE thing and that is the camera, that I fully acknowledge. otherwise it sucks even compared to other low-end phones

k750i is for kids, not for a serios business

well, even market acknowledges it SE market share in europe was going down last year SE has got smaller growth then the whole market

SE managed to get from world number one , to number six quite an increduble performance and benq has not yet published their numbers. so now is number 5, but it is only a matter of time SE will be number 6

besides, everyone has different needs and as it appears, SE fails on delivering a proper product whereas nokia can do it basicaly nokia achieved with virtualy one product selling over 50% of the overal SE production
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shaliron
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Posted: 2006-03-17 13:43
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Aquilla I think that you need to read just a few reviews regarding the K750 and 6230(i) and it may look quite clear to you.
Here's three reviews from the same reviewer regarding the 6230, 6230i and the K750:
http://www.mobique.com/nokia/6230i/page1.php
http://www.mobique.com/nokia/6230/page1.php
http://www.mobique.com/sonyericsson/k750i/page1.php
No-one's saying that the 6230 is a bad phone, we're just saying that the K750's better. Happy reading

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Posted: 2006-03-17 13:50
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On 2006-03-17 13:43:23, shaliron wrote:
Aquilla I think that you need to read just a few reviews regarding the K750 and 6230(i) and it may look quite clear to you.
Here's three reviews from the same reviewer regarding the 6230, 6230i and the K750:
http://www.mobique.com/nokia/6230i/page1.php
http://www.mobique.com/nokia/6230/page1.php
http://www.mobique.com/sonyericsson/k750i/page1.php
Happy reading




you could not find a more SE biased page or what ?

I guess maybe eldar murtizan from mobile-review-SE-fan-site could also be a good source
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Posted: 2006-03-17 13:56
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Try mobile-burn...try gsmarena...all SE fan sites???

By the way, no talk about crapp java limit on 6230i??? No minimize function??? (by the way, the new 6280 have the same stupid limitations LOL) Crap bluetooth???

Go suck some soap and let us alone fanboy
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Posted: 2006-03-17 14:41
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aquila, if u don't like SE fan sites, then i'll just ask u one thing:


WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING ON THIS FORUM?!?!
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Posted: 2006-03-17 14:52
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@datx
Good point
And the reviewer in my mind is pretty comprehesive in my opinion, and is (if you really think so) slightly biased for a good reason too...
I must add that IMHO he isn't a biased reviewer. One look at the review W900 and you'll know why. Rating a K750 five stars is intelligence, not bias.
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Posted: 2006-03-17 15:15
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@datx, heīs doing heīs thing: provoque SE users
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Posted: 2006-03-17 16:22
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The point of this thread is:
These two products [6230, 6230i] were the industry's best selling devices in Europe during each month of the year.

6230(i) may surpass K750i or vice-versa, it doesnt matter in the statement above. That statement doesnt mention K750i, does it.

Having said this, K750i is nice, but I'm bored of looks now. All the same.

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Posted: 2006-03-17 16:32
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I imagine that a lot of the 6230x's buyers were corporate, thus really bumping up their sales.

The Ford Focus was the biggest selling car (I think) in the UK, doesn't necessarily mean it's the best car, I bet a lot of buyers for that were companies or car rental companies! It's a personal thing, the 6230x might be the best phone for some people, but the K750i better for others.

I have a 6230 (never had the 'i' version yet, thinking of getting one though) which I've just replaced the screen on, and it's a nice little phone. Great keypad, nice features, surprisingly good VGA camera, though the screen's a bit pokey. I like quite a few of the Nokia models, especially have a soft spot for the series 60 Symbian models, I don't go in for all this rather tedious Nokia bashing.

It might just have the edge on the K700i, but can't hold a candle to the K750i. The 6230i is better, though can't remember, does it have expandable memory?
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Posted: 2006-03-17 16:38
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hmm.....

nokia 6230 has a better phonebook and better outlook managment i agree. (SE has improved but nokia's is still a bit better)

SE UI is better IMO,

SE screen, camera, video, gaming, music, radio all better IMO.

nokia would be more durable from my experience

SE mutlitasking a lot better.. example gaming, texting, music

Better BT implementation...

the nokia 6270 is more comparable to the k750i.. even with the revised UI is still loses it's appeal to me.. mainly cause it leaves out the little things that i think SE knows people appreciate.

6270 has better screen then the k750i but still loses out IMO the same reason the 6230i does





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On 2006-03-17 13:56:14, Arez wrote:
Try mobile-burn...try gsmarena...all SE fan sites???

By the way, no talk about crapp java limit on 6230i??? No minimize function??? (by the way, the new 6280 have the same stupid limitations LOL) Crap bluetooth???

Go suck some soap and let us alone fanboy



according to the gsmarena 6230i second best phone. k750 is ranked as 8th best phone

what is crap about bluetooth ? is the very same as on SE
java minimizing ? well, it works on nokia too if someone calls you the application is not terminated

what is really funny, that 3 years old low-end nokia 3510i has better calendar and addressbook compared to k750i the same goes for wallet, notes etc etc

no usb mass storage, no EDGE, those are crutial functionalities k750i has got only better camera. that is all. when it comes to real funtionality it is behind competition.
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Posted: 2006-03-17 17:37
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acording to the gsmarena 6230i second best phone.


which phone was first one?
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Posted: 2006-03-17 17:42
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no usb mass storage, no EDGE, those are crutial functionalities



youīre on drugs are you???

Bluetooth on SE phones does work better than any blokia...tell me aquilla, can you send several files at the same times with the 6230i???

When i say minimize a java app, its doing it intentionately, and letting it run on background

You donīt mention stupid limit of 500kb in java apps...i have 6 or 7 games that have more than 500kb, and this is the trend now, if you want really top games. And apps are going that way also...i have worldfactbook that has 5mb...looks it canīt run on 6230i

Isnīt it strange top non-s60 phone from nokia, 6280, also canīt do any of this, just like 6230i LOL

Calendar is only crippled on k750 for lack of recurrent alarms, but that can be perfectly worked around with outlook and other softwares

Again, i have to mention almost all SE phones have better music sound than 6230i...thats pathetic and you forget it

If you sum all the things, its the other way around...the only true advantage of poor 6230i is the calendar, and even so...lol

But it sold more...so what??? Let us be happy with our more uncommon but way better phone lol


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according to the gsmarena 6230i second best phone. k750 is ranked as 8th best phone



those rankings are made by peopleīs votes...if you say 6230i sold more, and nokia sell more, its obvious it will get more votes

when i talked about gsmarena, i was refering to the opinion of the reviewers...and in reviews all over the place, k750 is always at top, over poor 6230i, always...because its a fact

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Posted: 2006-03-17 17:47
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i thought i might add the point that the k750/w800 sales will be calculated separtely as well thus messing with the figures. same phone really just a split in sales.
i would expect the 6230 to be a better seller anyway as its got the might of nokia behind it. that said the k750 is still a good phone i just buy phones on the features i need not on the labels so i dont really care who makes the phone as long as it does what i need it to do.
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