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BOOYAR
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Yes but the space does suck and i stick by that. On my video ipod i have all 5 seasons of family guy. 10 whole films and over 300 music videos and still 15gb left for music. I previously owned a mini ipod and found 4gb too small.
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mysh
Joined: Dec 04, 2005
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Oh i do agree on the space thing. It's a lot easier to keep everything on the device than transfer things across all the time. That's a serious plus in the ipod's favour. 
I don't mind it too much with my w900i though, because i never run out of media on it before i need to charge it again anyway, and using my usb2.0 card reader i can refill the entire memory card in about ten minutes or so. |
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On 2006-02-20 09:07:11, mysh wrote:
Just because the w900i is primarily a "freakin phone" doesn't mean it can't compare with the ipod's functions. I'm giving you facts here, to show it does compete and even better the ipod at the same tasks. Try coming back with some real information, hehe.
so far as the video and audio quality go, have a look here for the audio output quality of the w900i, it's at least as good as the ipod video's (5th gen ipod), and actually a lot better than all the previous 4 generation ipods:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=839704
video quality, well, that's a bit different. The ipod supports h.263 and h.264 video. The w900i only supports h.263.
h.264 is the more efficient format, so technically it's better in that respect. Subjectively, there's little difference between h.263 and h.264 when watching a 320x240 video stream, it's very difficult to make the w900i pixelate a 320x240 h.263 video at 400kbps video data rate. For 99% of video, the w900i h.263 keeps the same visual quality as the ipod if/when it uses h.264. On top of that, the w900i has better screen contrast, so the w900i can actually reproduce the video slightly better than the ipod using either format.
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i basically get yer point buddy... but the fact is... its a phone... of course itll have more options other than watching vids.. because its a phone..
what ipod video does is play videos.. you cant use it as a phone..
now my point is... if the original poster wants some pointers in buying those devices... well i say buy em both... if you can afford it.. lthen buy w900, youll get the best of both worlds... play video and make calls...
that simple!
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Vacoum
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I love my W900i. I would even go as far as saying it's the best phone I've ever owned, but I still use (and will continue to use) my iPod for music. I don't mind having the iPod in one pocket and the W900i in the other.
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Ranjith
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has any1 tried to compare the quality of both the devices with the same headphone?
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tyildirim
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thanks guys for the infos and I didn't know about h.263 h.264 codec difference could be *negligible" on 320*240. I assumed that as ipod's main advantage (besides the hd space) this made me more tempted to go for w900. now if I can convince myself on radio.....
ps. Also I saw w950 walkman on reviews, why doesn't SE makes a photo enabled version of it. Ahh yeah we all now the answer
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KNIGHT51NZ
Joined: Feb 16, 2006
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The videoplayer in the W900 has no Pause, Fast Forward or Rewind features. The "Walkman" isn't as simple to use as the iPod, plus the USB 1.1 transfer speed is patheticly slow. (If you stick your music on a Memorystick and use a card reader it'd be fine).
The Walkmans ID3 usage is a bit questionable, I can only get it to play songs in the correct order by creating playlists for each album.
The screen is however, excellent, not quite as big as the iPods though I think.
If you aren't too worried about the other functions of the phone beyond calls and SMS/MMS, but still want to play music/videos, then I'd say get the iPod and a cheaper phone (K750 or somesuch). If you feel you need one device that does it all, then the W900 is still a very good phone and most of the problems _might_ be resolved in firmware updates.
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max_wedge
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On 2006-02-22 06:39:01, KNIGHT51NZ wrote:
The videoplayer in the W900 has no Pause, Fast Forward or Rewind features. The "Walkman" isn't as simple to use as the iPod, plus the USB 1.1 transfer speed is patheticly slow. (If you stick your music on a Memorystick and use a card reader it'd be fine).
The Walkmans ID3 usage is a bit questionable, I can only get it to play songs in the correct order by creating playlists for each album.
The screen is however, excellent, not quite as big as the iPods though I think.
If you aren't too worried about the other functions of the phone beyond calls and SMS/MMS, but still want to play music/videos, then I'd say get the iPod and a cheaper phone (K750 or somesuch). If you feel you need one device that does it all, then the W900 is still a very good phone and most of the problems _might_ be resolved in firmware updates.
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Strange, K750 can pause fast forward and rewind videos. Are you sure the W900 can't? Seems odd to me.
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private_ryan
Joined: Nov 28, 2005
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just want to make a follow up question re: query of @Ranjith. which unit/gadget gives the best sound quality, iPod or w900i? Did anyone already try comparing the quality of music/sound of these units?
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B.J.
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strange as i also share te same dilemma... though i only have a w800 and i was wonderin if i would just buy a very expensive 2gb card or buy an ipod video.. but i dont think the 2gb stick would compare to either 30 or 60 gb ipod capacity.. and by the way, can we see a point of reference of your song compression? and in that compression, how much song could you theoretically stuff in either of the device? tia
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mysh
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hehe if i kick ass, i kick ass like a geek, which isn't so cool.
@KNIGHT51NZ
the w900i can pause, rewind, and fastforward videos in normal view and fullscreen mode, if you play your videos through the walkman player.
The file manager player has no pause/rewind/fastforward, so er, don't use it!
general tips and info on w900i video capabilities here:
http://www.vapulus.com/w900i/general.html
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max_wedge
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well that makes more sense. 
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KNIGHT51NZ
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Aha, didn't occur to me to try playing videos through the walkman player. Pause is useful if nothing else. The file manager does let you play the movie in horizontal full-screen mode though.
Is the native USB interface on the phone only 1.1 or is it just really slow USB2? Doesn't transfer data to onboard memory anywhere near as fast as my ipod nano. USB 1 should be able to transfer data at a bit over 1 Megabyte/second at full speed. My file transfers to my W900 are about half that, so nowwhere near USB 2 speed. What speed do people get? Maybe it's just my setup.
That vapulus site is brilliant.
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