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Are new SE phones more reliable than k700? |
*Jojo*
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@marlonski - Well that's Dotsis' experience matey, we just can't take away with him/her. Of all the  phones I've used THROUGH the years, I can say that it's ONLY the K700i that I have experienced a PROBLEM with . . . it was remedied after the INITIAL release thru software upgrade though . . . poor battery life and BUGS! Rest are OK, even OLD models of Ericcson fones . . .
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marlonski
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On 2006-01-11 02:13:29, JN wrote:
@marlonski - Well that's Dotsis' experience matey, we just can't take away with him/her. Of all the phones I've used THROUGH the years, I can say that it's ONLY the K700i that I have experienced a PROBLEM with . . . it was remedied after the INITIAL release thru software upgrade though . . . poor battery life and BUGS! Rest are OK, even OLD models of Ericcson fones . . .
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@jojo, if thats Dotsis's experience then thats absolutely fine mate. As I mentioned in my last post, everyones input/opinions are important. I was just interested to understand whether this was actually based on personal experience or just a dislike of the joystick design. Either way, absolutely fine, just the clarification would help the sweeping statement that was made 
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tot-shots
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One of my concerns with the k700 was the joystick - it became more and more unreliable over a period of only a few months, so for me it's intresting to hear that other models might suffer the same problem, and somewhat puts me off the w800, for example.
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All fones could have bugs. Hard to give u an advice, cos the one i like and fits my needs, could turn a bad result for u. Bought a k600 ca 3 month ago, the joy didnt work well, had to sell it. Got a new one as investment, this one is ok now.
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max_wedge
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yet my K700 joystick worked well (not excellent, but well, which is a damn sight better than "unreliable") and the rest of the phone is 100% A1. Apart from a little slowness in the menu the phone is rock solid. It never crashed, and performed consistantly and reliable for the entire time I was using it.
My sis still has her K700, and despite her kid's playing games on it all the time it also works flawlessly. As far as I'm conerned why would only my sis and my k700's be the only one's without any problems? I would suggest that it is more common for the phones to be reliable than the few peeps who get a lemon of a handset.
Now I have the K750, and it is also reliable. Someone posted about the "build quality" and how creaky it is. That's a crock. Okay, it does creak, but it's the case only. The case plastic is too thin, which results in the creaking. The build quality of the actual handset itself is incredible. The phone never crashes, all buttons, sliders, lights etc work flawlessly. If dropped, the flexibility of the external case actually protects the internals by absorbing shock, the creakiness is a fair price to pay for that. I agree that the creakiness could be rectified, but it has nothing to do with the reliability of the handset.
My bro-in-law is one of the hardest on mobile phones of anyone I know, and his is still going strong. He has commented on the creakiness, and is surprised at how reliable it is given how he treats it. He often drops it on the floor (wooden), leaves it in the sun on the dash, in his pocket with all the lint, keys, and dosh. His kids hammer the joystick on games, smear sticky substances over it, splash their drinks on it etc. The only problem is that the joystick is a little slow in response, but given the amount of crap that accumulates in the joystick recepticle from his pocket and kids jam hands, I think that's a minor issue. My K750 joystick on the other hand, is still as good as the day I bought it. I've had mine longer than my bro-in-law too.
So I simply can't accept that either the K700 OR the K750 are unreliable.
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batesie
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On 2006-01-10 11:56:07, kristianm wrote:
according to http://www.mobique.com's review, it doesn't have a very good battery life.
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this is only if use the 3G services extensively. used as a gsm phone it gives a similar standby as the S700.
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4ever
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Hi guys,
I have to agree with tot-shots; not all of us like the K700i. I am sick of mine and have retired it somewhere in my home. Have gone back to using my ancient (!) CMD-J70. Now that's a good fone!
I had no problems with the joystick or menu on the K700i. But I could not continue with those bugs. You name it, I had it (the 3-second delay, occasional crashes, white screen before freezing, heating up like something had shorted inside, missed calls because the phone did not always ring, etc, etc.).
Updated the firmware 3 times (last one was R2AY004). Always worked for a short time after then back to the SOS. Reported to SE - I do not know why I bothered.
Somebody once told me that the updates (at SE service centres in Europe) did not overwrite the original software which was probably corrupted and that I should try Davinci.
Will give it one more try. If that does not work, no more SE phones for me.
I speak from experience. I truly like the design of the SE phones but I have lost all confidence in their products. |
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@4ever - How does this CMD-J70 look like  Thanks !
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4ever
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I do not have a picture to post.
Nothing fancy looking like the K700. In fact, if you compare looks, it is best to keep in your pocket! It is a Sony model (I think from back before they joined up with Ericsson).
On reliability, it beats my K700 hands down.
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@4ever - Ohhh, I do remember that now matey. Those are the MODELS which looks like Cordless Phones now . . . but still reliable!
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4ever
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Well, maybe I was a bit unkind. I do not know how to insert a picture but if you go to the address below, you should see what it looks like.
http://www.cellular.co.za/phones/sony/2001/sony_cmd_j70.htm |
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@4ever - OK, here's the specs of your fone:
High value unique Sony design, internal antenna
Internet access: wap 1.1, e-mail
Ease of use
Excellent sound and entertainment features
Sony's blue CMD-J7 and silver CMD-J70 represent the ideal full communication devices for the young generation of today's fast-moving lifestyle, as they comprise the latest technologies to guarantee great fun and entertainment. Their many features such as WAP, Internet e-mail, hands free speaker, SMS with sound and pictures as well as the possibility to record your own ringer tone make the CMD-J7 and the CMD-J70 all the more interesting for young professionals. Weighing only 92g and featuring the distinct Sony design with its Jog Dial and an internal antenna, these phones offer easy handling and are small and lightweight enough to slip into your pocket.
Features:
E-mail (POP3)
WAP 1.1 browser
Jog Dial
4 grey scale high resolution graphic display
Harmony ringer tones with polyphonic sounds
Recordable ringer tones
T9™ Text Input (T9™ Text Input is a registered trademark of Tegic Communications, Inc.)
SMS with sounds and pictures
Phone book up to 500 entries
Patch antenna
Integrated hands-free speaker
Organiser
Graphic world time clock
Alarm clock function
Calculator with currency converter
Games with sound
Data Communication via RS232/USB cable
Built-in modem
High quality speech codec EFR (+ FR/HR codec support)
Li-Ion battery technology
Volume: 82cc
Screensize: 96 x 92 pixel
Standby time: 60-330 hrs (dependent on network and usage)
Talk time: 2 hrs 30 min - 9 hrs (dependent on network and usage)
133x44.4x21.5 mms
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Gigs
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Maybe I'm just one of the lucky few statistics, but tbh i've had nothing but joy with my K700i and my W800i. No joystick woes, at least nothing I can't attribute to fat fingers
But reading your first post tot, if you're happy with other manufacturers and any quirks they may have (since its been shown doesn't have exclusive rights on buggy phones  ) then maybe its best just to not look at an one at all. (I love my 's personally but if you're going to be extremely dissapointed and put off before you buy one, then isn't that just setting yourself up for a fall?)
The only real suggestion I can give you is go into a mobile fone store and act like an interested customer and try the phones you're being offered/want first then see wether or not they're upto the level you are expecting.
On the flip side, in wanting a phone, what are the features you're wanting. Its kinda easy to dismiss phones on bugs, but what features are you looking for in a new phone? (EG must be a smart phone, 3g, camera quality, music player, any particular media formats mp3, ra, avi, etc?)
Personally, I like the W800, as a music phone sure it could do with some improvements in the media player but the sound is very nice and I don't mind the orange. (I hate the cream colour on it though lol) But as far as a phone goes its been fine, the joystick is usable, the screen looks wonderful and is very crisp. Haven't seen a crash, corrupt file, or anything go wrong with it. |
max_wedge
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Gigs, that has been my experience too. Absolutely rock solid performance.
Still I believe the joystick IS a weakness, but the problem can be avoided by learning how to be kind to the joy. Ideally it would be nice if it wasn't so sensitive, but tbh it's such a trivial issue in comparison to the phones over all usefullness. And it's not just an SE problem.
Joystick problems are common to all makes of mobile phone that use joysticks rather than d-pads. I did a quick search of google and found a heap of Nokia users disgruntled about the useability of Nokia joysticks.
For example, these reports are from user reviews - these are problems before the Joystick has even been used much:
9300: too sensitive to use in some screens
6820: "The 6820's joystick menu control has little joy about it! It looks awful, like a little plastic wart, and feels lumpy to use. "
6020: "The joystick is not very good as it is hard to press it compared to the se joysticks"
6600: "Poor joystick"
7260: "Joystick is a problem to use.U end up somewhere if you press the joystick by mistake in a direction u dont intend to.Better go for the Sony Ericsson K700i rather than this one."
From what I can tell, and my own experience, SE joysticks are easier to use than Nokia. Maybe Nokia joysticks ARE stronger, but overall useability is important too. I haven't even looked at other makes of phone.
Personally, If I had an SE (or any make for that matter) with a crap joystick I'd take the phone back for a replacement before telling all and sundry that ALL SE phones have joystick problems.
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Gigs
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As I posted in another joystick thread, all joysticks have problems. From the time I used them with my amiga (and often had them open with a screw driver ) to phone joysticks, by design they'll collect crap and require the odd cleaning now and again. (User circumstances may effect how much 'odd cleaning now and then' means)
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