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axxxr
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Thanks for your in depth historical view of this,certainly sheds light on military history i was'nt aware of.
If i was being belligerent in reporting this then that was very much my intention,As you know i always report any political stories relating to the U.S from a personal opinion,this is not a political forum or a mobile related topic that i have be objective and precise..The main idea is to have fun with the topics,if it means giving ones personal opinion to a story then its ok.
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axxxr you really do h8 bush dont you lol
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axxxr
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This topic isn't about bush. 
I happen to like canada,I have close canadian family members and i'd hate a evil and vile country like the u.s to have any bad intentions towards it. 
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scotsboyuk
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On 2006-01-06 18:39:57, axxxr wrote:
If i was being belligerent in reporting this then that was very much my intention,As you know i always report any political stories relating to the U.S from a personal opinion,this is not a political forum or a mobile related topic that i have be objective and precise..The main idea is to have fun with the topics,if it means giving ones personal opinion to a story then its ok.
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But then that isn't really reporting then is it? It's more akin to an editorial or arguably even propoganda. Not having to be 'objective and precise' doesn't exactly scream good reporting now does it?
Incidentally, if you wish to be belligerent then perhaps you should make sure of the facts first and foremost so that your belligerency has some basis.
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axxxr
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On 2006-01-06 20:17:03, scotsboyuk wrote:
But then that isn't really reporting then is it? It's more akin to an editorial or arguably even propoganda. Not having to be 'objective and precise' doesn't exactly scream good reporting now does it?
Incidentally, if you wish to be belligerent then perhaps you should make sure of the facts first and foremost so that your belligerency has some basis.
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Well it isn't really a news report as such anyway,well propaganda?maybe. ..axxxr's the name,anti-americanism is the game. 
When it come to political reporting don't expect it to be hardcore in-depth and objective..My speciality is in mobiles and Gadgets,politics just fills the gaps when im bored.  ..not to bothered about getting precise as long as people get a good idea and the jist of the story thats good enough for me.
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absinthebri
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On 2006-01-06 20:40:58, axxxr wrote:
When it come to political reporting don't expect it to be hardcore in-depth and objective.
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Why not?
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axxxr
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No particular reason...can be though of course.
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On 2006-01-06 20:40:58, axxxr wrote:
not to bothered about getting precise as long as people get a good idea and the jist of the story thats good enough for me.
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It would help if the 'good idea' and 'jist' of a story were accurate though and didn't lead them to believe something that was either false or misleading.
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axxxr
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On 2006-01-06 21:22:26, scotsboyuk wrote:
It would help if the 'good idea' and 'jist' of a story were accurate though and didn't lead them to believe something that was either false or misleading.
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Like you suggested it may be propaganda on my part to reverse the roll on the U.S...they use extreme forms of propaganda on the world to justify their acts...If it makes them look bad then i will do the same aswell..call it sweet revenge.
Wether the article looks false or misleading,i think the members on esato are intelligent enough to judge for themselves...the washington Post Link explained everything.
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scotsboyuk
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On 2006-01-06 21:39:12, axxxr wrote:
Like you suggested it may be propaganda on my part to reverse the roll on the U.S...they use extreme forms of propaganda on the world to justify their acts...If it makes them look bad then i will do the same aswell..call it sweet revenge.
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No offence intended here, but I doubt whether your editorials cause them much bother, in fact they could and arguably do have the opposite effect in some cases. Using the very methods that you criticise the American government for smacks of hypocrisy.
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Wether the article looks false or misleading,i think the members on esato are intelligent enough to judge for themselves...the washington Post Link explained everything.
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Which makes it ok to post false or misleading information?
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Maybe the Canadian goverment knew about this, and made a stupid deal with the Americans, to not attack and they can legally call them 'America Junior'
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axxxr
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On 2006-01-06 21:45:13, scotsboyuk wrote:
No offence intended here, but I doubt whether your editorials cause them much bother, in fact they could and arguably do have the opposite effect in some cases. Using the very methods that you criticise the American government for smacks of hypocrisy.
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None taken mate,I know anything i say won't really bother them,at least it makes me feel better...don't think its hypocracy just revenge!
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On 2006-01-06 21:45:13, scotsboyuk wrote:
Which makes it ok to post false or misleading information?
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Lets not get into that again shall we,i've already explained that part to you...but for your satisfaction it was'nt false or misleading...The link had an extensive explanation of the subject which in no doubt satisfied anyones curiousty and let people judge on their own.
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@jenbones
The Canadians had a plan to invade America; I mentioned it in my first post in this thread.
@axxxr
On the contrary your original post is quite misleading. It paints the war plan as being borne of 'bloodlust' when in fact it was prepared as part of a largely hypothetical scenario involving trade disputes with Britain. Your post also says that the plan goes into intricate detail when in fact it does not. The plan is rather general and certainly doesn't contain the level of detail found in Plan Orange, some of which was used in Plan Rainbow 5, the plan that was in use at the time of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour. Plan Red is mostly concerned with detailing the Canadian landscape as well as transportation and communication networks with discussion on possible offensives against various targets.
Your post also links the plan with the goal of spreading American style democracy, which really isn't the case. As I said above, the plan was based upon a trade dispute scenario, not regime change.
The link you provided does at least mention more of the history surrounding this issue. There is no context or supporting information given in your post to explain the link or the story and your claim of 'revenge' is somewhat dappened by the fact that the link doesn't really tally with your account of the matter and one does wonder how you arrived at your conclusion if you had read the story you linked to. Either you have completely misinterpreted the story or you have deliberately sought to bend the story to your own opinion.
The rhetoric you include essentially serves to colour the plan (pardon the pun) and steer the reader's opinion to an anti-American bias, for which this plan really offers no substantive basis.
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hmm... i think were grown up enough. we read it or leave it. ppl who dont agree / dun like the topics usually just leave the thread. its only a "coffe break" forget after read.
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scotsboyuk
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On 2006-01-06 23:21:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
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hmm... i think were grown up enough. we read it or leave it. ppl who dont agree / dun like the topics usually just leave the thread. its only a "coffe break" forget after read.
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Are you then saying that if one doesn't agree with something one should not speak up? People who don't agree or don't like the topic may very well usually just leave the thread, but then I'm not most people.
Now axxxr, or anyone else for that matter, is free to post whatever he wishes within the rules, but that does not mean to say that one has a right to post misleading or false information and have it accepted as fact; if I see it happening I am free to comment upon it just as you are free to comment upon my commenting. I am quite sure that axxxr would be one of the first people to point out a post giving a positive light to the American government through misleading or inaccurate information and he would be quite right to do so.
One can choose to take or leave something as you have said, but one should at least be afforded the opportunity to take or leave something which is neither misleading or inaccurate so as to form a fully rounded opinion.
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