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America's plan to invade Canada |
axxxr
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I was always under the assumption that America's bloodlust for war was a recent thing,or the last 50 years or so anyway,and only supposed to spread americanisation or there own twisted version of "Democracy" to non-demorcratic or evil regimes.However i was'nt actually aware until i read this article that i read ,but the U.S Government back in the 1930's had a secret plan to invade its peacefull neighbour Canada.And the Scary thing is they even had a 94-page document called "Joint Army and Navy Basic War Plan Red," with the word SECRET stamped on the cover.Which highlighted the complete canadian invasion in intricate detail..Should i be saying im not surprised by this revelation?well frankly im not would you be?
You can read the full Article on: The Washington Post
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Ayush
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I AM SHOCKED!
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axxxr
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Don't blame you....The U.S is full of suprises,what next eh?..Just another reason why you cannot trust the u.s government...next they'll be invading the u.k. 
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*Jojo*
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@axxxr - Looks like that was an OLD plan pal  I think the US will NOT be even thinking of that, if ever they will be attacking N. Korea then China first !
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Dj Boyi
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Well heres my 'Freedom of Speech' bit. 'Man this guy never stops,im sick of reading ur crap Axxxr,go make ur own site and put it on there. Im on wap most of the time and get sick of u clogging up these forums with ur antiBush,antiAmerican bullshit. The more u post this sort of stuff,the longer it takes me to browse around here,give it a rest will yer and get back to posting news on phones and gadgets etc. Its gettin really boring now... Duh :-l
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Ayush
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What is canadian govt's reaction to this?
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*Jojo*
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@boyi - I 'quite' agree with you matey. If I do remember it right, I had a DEAL with Axxxr then, fortunately, I WON ! The DEAL was he will 'lessen' his ANTI-AMERICAN posts in the forums . . . I guess it has decreased now If it do happen that you are REALLY annoyed by his posts, might as well IGNORE it dude, there are other WORTWHILE threads to post on. Thanks !
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SsTiTcH
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Considering that during its history america slaughtered off the indiginous people and shoved those who survived off to live in squalor on reservations. Im not surprised. Why should the change now when all they know is how to kill to get what they want. And before anyone gets upset im half apache on my mums side.. Father was British and therefore im British. Yanks have alot to answer for. |
absinthebri
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I agree with SsTiTcH. Where's the surprise in this?
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teexl
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we seem to see the sharp claws of uncle sam everyday..
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joebmc
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Survival of the fittest  . After all were just animals like the rest of the animal kingdom. And we’ve inherited this need for territory from our past.
Im sure every other country/goverment in the world wouldnt say no to the power that the yanks have would they?
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axxxr
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On 2006-01-06 07:00:44, boyi wrote:
Well heres my 'Freedom of Speech' bit. 'Man this guy never stops,im sick of reading ur crap Axxxr,go make ur own site and put it on there. Im on wap most of the time and get sick of u clogging up these forums with ur antiBush,antiAmerican bullshit. The more u post this sort of stuff,the longer it takes me to browse around here,give it a rest will yer and get back to posting news on phones and gadgets etc. Its gettin really boring now... Duh :-l
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Thats right you have right to your freedom of speech and i do mine..and frankly no i won't stop,all you have to do is skip my posts..simple as,and for your for information i don't even post half the political posts that i used to...I have said this on many occassions that i post far more mobile and gadget related news than i do non-mobile so get used to it....If you find it boring then im sorry but there are many more members who actually enjoy and like to partipate in such discussions.
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leeboy13
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@AXXXR - im on your side, although i dont necessarily agree with all your posts/opinions, i feel we are all entitled to our own opinions.... for me, axxxr provides some very interesting threads and i for one would miss them.....
Hes got a point in that, if you dont like what hes posting, dont read them.... why are some people so bitchy towards others posts?
Personally, i dont read the p900 forums.... because it doesnt interest me ( and i dont own a p900 - and never will)... you dont see me going into it and saying its pointless etc.... leave the poor guy alone and let him excerise his right in freedom of speech!
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Bambino
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@axxxr
i think im on u axxxr. i always like politics talks. too much fone post sometimes make me boring
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scotsboyuk
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@axxxr
You take a rather belligerent tone in reporting this (pun very much intended). Plan Red was more an exercise in military planning than anything else. It was in fact a plan for a war with the British Empire, which was the red in the plan's name. Where the UK was designated as 'red' in the plan, Canada was 'crimson' and Australia and New Zealand were 'scarlet'.
Britain was, in the 1920s and 30s, still the most powerful nation in the world and as such would have been a prime candidate for the military plans of most of the other advanced/powerful nations of the world. I remember one of the professors at university telling me that the American navy was almost obsessed with plans for a battle with the Royal Navy. That doesn't mean that such a scenario was likely, just that it was something they used in their planning, which would make sense since the Royal Navy was the most powerful navy at the time. If one is going to plan a naval battle to train one's planners and officers it might as well be against the most powerful navy.
Other U.S. military plans at this time included Plan Orange, which dealth with a possible war against Japan; Plan White dealt with an uprising within America; Plan Gray concerned the invasion of a Caribbean state; Purple concerned either a Central American nation or Russia; Green was a plan for invading Mexico; Gold was a plan for a war with France and French Caribbean posessions; Plan Black dealt with a war with Germany; Indigo was a plan to invade Iceland (which was occupied by American troops in 1941 after having relieved British forces after the fall of Denmark); Brown dealt with an uprising in the Philippines and Plan Yellow concerned a war in China during the Sino-Japanese War.
There was also a combined Red-Orange plan because of the Anglo-Japanese Alliance, but that ended in 1924.
Plans for another war with Germany were unpopular when they were revealed to the public and it isn't unreasonable to wonder whether this then led the American military to use more hypothetical scenarios for their planning. Plan Orange is the most extensive and detailed of all the plans and this is arguably a reflection over the more realistic nature of a war between the U.S. and Japan rather than between the U.S. and the British Empire or France, for example.
Other countries would have had similar plans of their own, in fact the Canadians had a plan to attack the U.S., which was drawn up in 1921. The intention of the plan was to buy enough time for imperial forces to arrive from other parts of the Empire in a war against America.
It's hardly a 'revelation' since the plan to invade Canada was made public in the early 1970s and has been said before it was largely hypothetical. It might be useful in future not to invest so much of your personal opinion in the actual post reporting a story, but rather be as objective as possible and save your personal opinion for a later post so that people can read the story with as little bias as possible. Military planning for various scenarios is quite common and it should not be taken to mean that the plan is ever actually intended to be used. A testament to this is the fact that juniour officers were sometimes tasked with updating them; one would expect the top brass to be taking charge of serious war plans.
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