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marlonski
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Posted: 2005-12-03 15:16
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voda- mess with the icons which on my mates K750 ruin the overall look of the menus. I wonder why let voda stick their branding on the face of the w900 but not the w800. Is this because it's for voda's 3 (UMTS) network ?
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Superluminova
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Posted: 2005-12-03 17:24
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Hey dave where did you see it? is it instores now?
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Posted: 2005-12-03 18:06
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the logo is the same but they arent using it like they used to.

making it silvery makes it luk betta. imho. [addsig]
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Posted: 2005-12-03 18:09
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When will we see your avatar for the W900 vanquish?
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Supa_Fly
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Posted: 2005-12-03 19:00
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This is called Mass marketing of a target marketed product.

SE makes a music UMTS phone for music lovers, although its becoming a trend, this is something Sony started years ago about making portable music a quality thing. This w900i is an internationally aimed product but for a niche market.

Vodafone is almost if not already a world player. They purchase this phone in bulk to have exclusive rights to launching it. You my friend get a quality phone at a cheaper than market value price. Sure you have to deal with the decal branding on the hardware ... but I'm sure there is a way around that. I'd just be pissed as you about the software branding. But think about this.

Think about this; Vodafone is paying the money to buy the phone in bulk. Their paying the money for a phone exclusitivity. Their paying for the software branding, and network compatibility. If you dont like the branding then wait about 4 months and you'll get an unbranded unlocked white w900i with a decent price. But to start a thread complaining about branding ... take a look at your wardrobe. your shirts, at least 4 are what ... branded. Now look at your pants, heck your briefs, your sport socks, and even your hat if its a Kangol its branded. your briefcase & knapsack is also branded, the care you drive, branded. But you still buy those ... why? because you either need or want them. Just like this phone.

Did Vodafone take away anything from this phone that the unlocked unbranded models have? Probably not other than inputting new carrier settings but thats a given with locked phones. Did Vodafone offer something that the unbranded phones dont have?

My last question is very serious and possibly important. According to some members here, the SE advertisement of Push Email is a farce. Or its a marketing ploy that only providers can provide like Vodafone. So may I ask did you see any options for push email service in the messaging application, or in the data settings?

I dont think a phone that polls for email is to be refered to as push email. Is it a software on the CD that must be installed on the desktop? Kinda like the BlackBerry Desktop Redirector? Or something from the provider website?
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Posted: 2005-12-03 20:08
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I think it looks really bad with the logo + the text on the front .. a logo in the center would have been OK instead of the walkman logo... but this is terrible...
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Posted: 2005-12-04 00:06
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The white aint too bad. Its the fact that its a big red logo in the middle of a white phone that makes it look awful.

Reminds me of the ugly old Voda PAYG phones with the red logo under the screen that just made them worse.
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Posted: 2005-12-04 00:16
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jesus christ if u dont like the phone branding then dont buy the frikin fone wen its released.... Voda arent forcin u to buy it! and jus to pee u guys off a bit more u WONT be able to get the phone on ANY other network other than VODAFONE in the UK!!! they have FULL exclusivity on it according to WHAT MOBILE!

And before u all start flaming me i DONT work for voda anymore so i dont giv a rats arse bout the branding... if u want the fone u will put up with the branding... if u dont like it dont buy it! simple as!

And great comment bout everything in life being branded... its true... even the drinks u drink an the food u eat is branded...

Enjoy!
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Posted: 2005-12-04 01:27
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Well said jon!
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Posted: 2005-12-04 03:12
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Quote:

On 2005-12-03 19:00:29, Prom1 wrote:
Did Vodafone take away anything from this phone that the unlocked unbranded models have?



As far as I am aware Vodafone remove the My Friends feature and replace it with their own IM system.
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Posted: 2005-12-04 04:06
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@voda_jon; well said & thx.

@scotsboyuk; thanks for the info. Personally I've never used the My Friends feature and never understood how it works on any providers network. I think it was designed very poorly on the z600/z500a/K700.

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Posted: 2005-12-04 17:34
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So has anyone had a play with one of these Voda branded w900i? Does anyone know whats different? Whats the same? Whats restricted?

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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2005-12-04 19:57
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I don't actually mind the branding all that much, however, I do mind the substitution of features e.g. My Friends and DRM. Vodafone's messenger system seems to be a proprietary system in that it can only be used with other Vodafone customers; someone please correct me if I am wrong. DRM is just plain nonsense; I can't use music I have already bought and paid for as a ringtone unless it comes from Vodafone! Utter tripe!

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Posted: 2005-12-31 13:51
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floatlite
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Posted: 2005-12-31 14:43
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Vodafone have disable ALOT of the features of the handset whilst implimenting their own firmware.

As for Vodafone buying in bulk and customising to bring the product to the market and give lower prices to the customer, not true.

They do it for market exclusivity, to bring people into their market, as the produxt can only be obtained from them, and in turn...chanrge them MORE for it.

Point in case, I have been a premier Vodaphone buisness customer for 13 years, and spend around £400 per month with them. I was 4 months over my 12 month period, so was well into my upgrade period, and when I asked for a W900, was told, no problem, that'll be £75 sir.

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