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bijitendra
Joined: Apr 20, 2005
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Thanks....lots of feedback but....
* What about noise? Its very, very high in K750. Any way to reduce it?
* Is a 3-second exposure possible with K750? Any tricks or hidden stuff or tweaking possible?
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wrecked_porsche
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Yeah, looks like there is a source of white light from the side... 
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number2
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
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Errr why are the people in the background so much bigger than the train? Is the subtle clue that its a TOY TRAIN!
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DeLa
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Given the pictures I've seen from the K750, I think you can do it. Have a look at the 'post your K750-pics here' thread.
The picture is a very good picture because it catches the atmosphere so well, but:
- there is a fair amount of noise or otherwise jpg-spots (have a good look at the sky);
- the picture is not really sharp nor detailed, - it is somewhat underexposed I think - which gives its atmosphere - probably because of the lights of the train shining into the lens;
so I think it was made with a basic digital camera.
The "white light" you see at the left seems similar to the light at the right; probably it is the light in the station or the buildings nearby that can be seen. It looks so white because of the much warmer lights of the train attract attention. With our eyes the difference in colour woul be hardly noticeable (our eyes/brain correct that).
A flash of any kind would be totally useless here. It would ruin the picture with its pathetic 5 metres of light that would enlighten the stones in the foreground and render the rest of the image dark. |
carkitter
Joined: Apr 29, 2005
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@number2
It looks to me like a real train, but I think the carriages have been photoshopped to give the impression of surrealism. There's just something funny about the way the carriages rapidly descend into the horizon...
If that part has been photoshopped, I wonder how many imperfections have been removed?
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Jim
Joined: Jan 20, 2002
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Taken with a K750, poor lightening and it's still good but not great so I suppose it could be possible but whitout quality
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blackspot
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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It doesn't look photoshopped to me, but it does look like a toy train. Perhaps the lost details are because of some Noise removal apps. I think the K750 with proper application of a noiseware can produce similar quality images.
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bijitendra
Joined: Apr 20, 2005
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From: Utopia
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The image is not photoshopped nor any apecial effects neither any special lighting arrangements are done.
Secret lies in the exposure time : 15 secs in this case, taken with Canon A95.
U can see the result of people moving appear blurred as well. For more details, see the exif file details using a exif-reader utility.
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number2
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
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From: Yorkshire
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No mate,
Sorry cant agree,
The train may, or may not be a toy, however the people if they are real and not figures, do not correspond in size, to the train or indeed each other. The more i look at this the more ize smells a rat!
From what i can see, its at least 3 pics zipped together.
1) Train
2) Forground
3) Background/dusk sky.
Would have worked but for the Giants at the back of the train. |
daeid
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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the reason the people look larger is due to perspective, if you look at the ones standing closest to the train they appear of normal height, however with the angle of the shot the people standing farther away appear larger, it is because the shot is from the same side as the people are on, so they are 'theoretically' closer to the camera than the train at the same distance.
and the reason the shot has so much light distributed is the same as why the lights on the front of the train have the glowing effect, it is a timed exposure. i don't think it is 15 seconds as previously posted, because the people would have had to stand very still, unless it was a 15 second exposure with a rear-curtain flash used which flashes when the shutter opens and the shutter stays open long enough for the flash to reach the far parts of the shot. doing this can allow for a good focused shot of the people BEFORE they move, and if there was insufficient lighting (night time as in this one) you will not be able to percieve the peoples movement, or more precisely the camera will not.
this is a very possible shot, but probably not without a camera that allows for attachment of TTL flashes, timed exposures, and proper noise reduction. the noise reduction is very possible with photoshop, as it can even remove the usual JPEG artifacts associated with digital photography. the noise reduction can also be negated by using a camera that can shoot in RAW mode, and adjusting the RAW image properties.
as an avid digital photographer, i do not think that the shot is fake, nor that it is a model train, or three images superimposed. it was shot with a tripod for starts, probably with a high quality flash (mine can shoot the flash almost 50 feet away), definately with a timed exposure, and a high f-stop to allow light to slowly enter the lens.
[edit] - by the way can you link to the original photo so people can look at it for themselves?
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number2
Joined: Jul 16, 2005
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From: Yorkshire
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Wrong wrong wrong,
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Posted: 2005-09-06 06:00
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