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bugsiiy
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Posted: 2006-01-26 23:04
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I have a w800i with r1n... fm(dont remember it) but i still cant see .swf

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Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2006-01-26 23:05
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What's the great thing about flash lite anyway? It's the same as an animated gif (Well done) file!

Fact: if you update higher than R1L002; flash files won't work.
gardar
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Posted: 2006-01-27 00:47
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anyone that has any fla h lite files that would be nice to use as a screensaver on my w800i?
P800 - P910i - P1i - and some non-P phones...
pimp123
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Posted: 2006-01-27 03:25
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On 2006-01-26 23:05:43, Dan_Aykroyd wrote:
What's the great thing about flash lite anyway? It's the same as an animated gif (Well done) file!

Fact: if you update higher than R1L002; flash files won't work.




Interactivity, sounds, games etc. not just mere animation. im a self tought flash designer and im about to start learning how to develop apps for flashlite thats why i bought that goddamn w800 phone yet i dont have what i need!
Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2006-01-27 13:50
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Yeah... that in a computer but, in the phone? It'd be like an animated image!
I don't think that you'll be able to 'run' it like an application and play games, programs, whatever!

Anyone tried?
elperro
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Posted: 2006-01-27 14:11
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yes I have flash lite on my w800, you will need to regress the firmware somehow. Or get a k600 or other...

Its loads better than an animated gif, I have written a fully functional stocks and shares tracker that gets live charting info and then writes the chart dynamically - try doing that with a gif! Its available as a free download via www.flashcell.com

The point is with flash lite you can code - a gif is a gif.

I have got some screensavers and wallpapers, stuff like fireflies with random movement, a analogue clock, and a few virtual worlds that have random events. Unfortunately I cant distribute for free at the moment.

Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2006-01-28 00:20
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It's still a nice animated wallpaper to me (except the stock app)...

Where can I download something that will absolutely BLOW MY MIND and make me love Flash? I never tried it on the phone so...; still, I don't think I would like it too much.
Jordan17
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Posted: 2006-01-28 01:07
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Doesn't work on mine either.
elperro
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Posted: 2006-01-28 02:10
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well thats because they are 'wallpapers'. The stock app is an application style use of flash lite, then there is games which follow their web equilivent in being simple 'casual' games.

Not sure quite what you are expecting to blow your mind with a 600kb plugin on a mobile phone??

If you are talking about advanced gaming then thats just not the purpose of flash lite. Thats the realm of c++ and j2me.

There are plenty of casual games and other applications at the macromedia exchange (in fact u wont find one wallpaper there) but they are aimed at Nokia handsets. I cant be bothered to go into the reason behind that. So they wont really work that well on your SE.

The point is that flash lite is about as far from animated gifs as j2me is from html. Hope that clears it up.
Dan_Aykroyd
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Posted: 2006-01-29 05:03
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Yeah, I know that Flash is not a stupid image; it is a programming language. BUT I don't see why it's so go to our phones, since as you had saw, versions higher than R1L002 doesn't even support it anymore.

So... what I'm asking is; the LINK to the greatest SWF available for the phone; just to say: "Oh... this really is good and something I couldn't acomplish using an animated GIF / J2ME language"... is there any?
matthewf01
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Posted: 2006-01-31 04:42
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On 2006-01-29 05:03:34, Dan_Aykroyd wrote:
Yeah, I know that Flash is not a stupid image; it is a programming language. BUT I don't see why it's so go to our phones, since as you had saw, versions higher than R1L002 doesn't even support it anymore.

So... what I'm asking is; the LINK to the greatest SWF available for the phone; just to say: "Oh... this really is good and something I couldn't acomplish using an animated GIF / J2ME language"... is there any?




hi, I looked at the FlashCell site.

With a W900 in the mail im trying to investigate SOMETHING I can get that will make some use of Flash Lite support

The little landscapes are so cute, and very cool!
Will they all work as screensavers, or wallpapers, on w900?
If so, im excited to have found something!
But, when I download, there are just PDFs. Are these not available for download?


Are there any other good resources for Flash Lite media?
thanks for all your work

[ This Message was edited by: matthewf01 on 2006-01-31 03:44 ]
elperro
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Posted: 2006-01-31 11:13
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@Dan_Aykroyd

Not sure what your agenda is here? Firstly you said you cant see the difference between a gif and flash lite now you want me to show you something that cant be done in J2ME!?!??! WTF.

Firstly the new Nokia phones (N and E series) will prove how good Flash Lite is for mobile phones. The problem with the SE implementation of Flash Lite is that it doesnt run full screen and the performance is really poor - thats why there hasnt been hardly any content produced for it. The Nokia Flash Lite version runs fullscreen (ala Java or C) and has good performance. So the future for Flash Lite on SE phones really is an unknown quantity.


> So... what I'm asking is; the LINK to the greatest SWF available for the >phone; just to say: "Oh... this really is good and something I couldn't >acomplish using an animated GIF / J2ME language"... is there any?


Its not a question of couldn't accomplish ....its more a question of how much it would cost you to accomplish the same in J2ME, C++ or whatever. The economics behind content production determine what gets produced. So with Flash Lite you get lots of really cool simple apps and games because they are relatively quick (cheap) to produce. Apart from that Flash Lite apps tend to look a lot better too.


@matthewf01

I'll might be setting something up shortly to allow people to download them - however for some reason SE have disabled the use of Flash Lite as wallpaper/screensaver on all models from w550 onwards. For those models Flash Lite only works as a browser plugin. So they cant be used on your w900. Sorry

In terms of other resources try looking at the macromedia exchange:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfu[....]sh%20Lite%20Exchange&loc=en_us

But even if you do find something the performance will be pretty bad - the w900 is the worst performing phone (in terms of flash lite) I have ever seen! So if you are going to use content probably best look for non-animated content such as network applications.
uchitha
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Posted: 2006-07-28 16:23
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SonyEricsson says they have removed the FlashLite support coz, the W800 doesn't have LiveCast support.
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