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bodeh6
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Posted: 2008-06-27 01:41
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So are we going to see any smartphones from SE released this year other then the G700/G900 or is the C905 the smartest phone from SE this year?
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Posted: 2008-06-27 02:54
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On 2008-06-27 01:37:28, iqtidar wrote:
eomer also said that esato members will be foaming our mouth with next year's product.


He also said it'll probably be S60. no touchscreen LOL!

does this mean no more Hecaro?
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Posted: 2008-06-27 09:14
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On 2008-06-27 01:41:15, bodeh6 wrote:
So are we going to see any smartphones from SE released this year other then the G700/G900 or is the C905 the smartest phone from SE this year?



Next year not this year.


On 2008-06-27 02:54:35, BoyBawang wrote:

On 2008-06-27 01:37:28, iqtidar wrote:
eomer also said that esato members will be foaming our mouth with next year's product.


He also said it'll probably be S60. no touchscreen LOL!

does this mean no more Hecaro?


Judging from his other comments there probably was no Hecaro to begin with.

Also just found this article:

http://mobilementalism.com/20[....]-but-woes-only-just-beginning/

Will Sony Ericsson be the next Motorola?

Interestingly, there's another company out there who are also in danger of going down the same route: Sony Ericsson. Their profits have fallen by 47% in the first few months of 2008, caused largely by a range of phones last year that were simply uninspiring.

After a raft of successes with their Walkman and CyberShot phones, the company simply released yet more versions of the same thing. It became boring to write about, and reading the forums it became evident that other mobile phone users (and even people passionate about Sony Ericsson) felt the same way. Sony Ericsson, too, it seemed, were guilty of resting on their laurels while Nokia, Samsung and LG upped their game.

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Posted: 2008-06-27 10:39
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Here´s an interview regarding that shows some clues regarding UIQ´s rule on the symbian foundation:

http://www.symbianone.com/content/view/5581/
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Posted: 2008-06-27 10:59
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Eomer can be right, and for all I know he probably is. But what do I care whats coming out in the middle of next year? If anyones gonna do some long term waiting, they may aswell wait for Symbian foundation then, which will have THE BEST specs that these contributing manufacturers want to offer us in smartphones. It will surely outshine whatever we will see next year. What we will see next year will only be an intermediate, outdated in a year. Its more logical then to get a smartphone now and live out the wait with something that wont be outdated for 2 years Then move on to Symbian foundation.

I personally think Symbian foundation is a double-edged sword.

On the one hand its good that its open source, one consistent platform, huge variety of apps resulting, everyone is running the same thing, so huge amount of competition, so we will see more of what we want to see in the way of great devices.

However, the negative impact of this is that SE has always been able to turn around and say 'yes, well, thats all great for you Mr Nokia, but does your smartphone have a touchscreen to it?'. SE wont have that advantage OVER the competitors anymore, so will SE devices be as popular then, or will we experience more of an unfortunate shift towards Nokia, then? I think SE has a touch of quality Nokia will never have, so Ill most likely want to stick with SE. But how will the rest of the market respond? It sounds interesting.

I suppose it was only a matter of time before SE's competitors also invested in the same technology, though. And the same will go for Apple with touch UIs, but I think a time may come when specs of other devices will get the better of the iphone (they cant keep beefing the specs up while keeping it as thin forever And if the iphone is no longer suitable for the fashion conscious, then it is suitable for none IMO).

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Posted: 2008-06-27 11:09
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Poplover, when do you post the Hecaro-Pics?

And how many does Linda kost, when you can buy it?

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Posted: 2008-06-27 11:18
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His statement suggests that no more new UIQ models. Although SE will continue to ship existing ones.

It's likely that the SE Pnext will be equiped with touchscreenless s60.
It will rival against Nokias Tube series with touchscreens.

What a twist of fate LOL!
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Posted: 2008-06-27 11:27
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Here is a quote from the link Ares posted.

"Q: So what will happen to UIQ Technology?

Ulf Wretling, general manager and head of the developer program and communications at Sony Ericsson:

We will continue to ship UIQ phones for quite some time and Motorola has publicly said it will do the same. So nothing will be stopping immediately. Over time of course we will be moving to the Symbian Foundation platform."

So, I guess it means we will all see the next UIQ smartphones.
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Posted: 2008-06-27 11:52
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On 2008-06-27 11:27:43, Phoner wrote:
Here is a quote from the link Ares posted.

"Q: So what will happen to UIQ Technology?

Ulf Wretling, general manager and head of the developer program and communications at Sony Ericsson:

We will continue to ship UIQ phones for quite some time and Motorola has publicly said it will do the same. So nothing will be stopping immediately. Over time of course we will be moving to the Symbian Foundation platform."

So, I guess it means we will all see the next UIQ smartphones.

Hmmm, this can either mean that will see a new UiQ, or, as stated, they will continue shipping existing devices, what is true - G700/900 will be shipped for a next year maybe, they're new products.
So it's by no means obvious that they will make a new UiQ device. And even if YES, I think it won't be anything so great - they just stopped investing in UiQ. The article above says "nothing will stop immediately" what means that things HAS STOPPED. So what, they stopped and than release a highend device?? Nonsense, if they didn't do that before.
And I also wrote before - SE has a huge income drop, what also matters!!!
P.S. As I know, there's nothing from UiQ now in the pipeline.
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Posted: 2008-06-27 11:56
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I doubt theyd develop a new one. I think they can hold out on UIQ 3.3 for long enough. Its not like they release that many device on it anyway, the frequency of them will be low enough. It would be a waste of time for anyone to come up with a new UIQ now, but of course, they may be nearly at the finishing stages of one, we dont know that.
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Posted: 2008-06-27 12:35
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On 2008-06-27 11:56:28, Tigershark42 wrote:
It would be a waste of time for anyone to come up with a new UIQ now, but of course, they may be nearly at the finishing stages of one, we dont know that.


That is exactly for what I am hoping.

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Posted: 2008-06-27 13:15
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On 2008-06-27 12:35:16, Phoner wrote:

On 2008-06-27 11:56:28, Tigershark42 wrote:
It would be a waste of time for anyone to come up with a new UIQ now, but of course, they may be nearly at the finishing stages of one, we dont know that.


That is exactly for what I am hoping.

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??? They just had TWO devices at finishing stages and canceled them!!! Paris was in developement for over a year.
So what are you hoping for?
That they also have another one in another room? It's a bit crazy man.
"Nothing will stop immediately" from the article above means things go slowly DOWN, not UP,
and a new Pseries would be in fact a big thing, which is not hinted by anyone.
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Posted: 2008-06-27 13:28
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On 2008-06-27 13:15:47, doministry wrote:

On 2008-06-27 12:35:16, Phoner wrote:

On 2008-06-27 11:56:28, Tigershark42 wrote:
It would be a waste of time for anyone to come up with a new UIQ now, but of course, they may be nearly at the finishing stages of one, we dont know that.


That is exactly for what I am hoping.

[ This Message was edited by: Phoner on 2008-06-27 11:41 ]


??? They just had TWO devices at finishing stages and canceled them!!! Paris was in developement for over a year.
So what are you hoping for?
That they also have another one in another room? It's a bit crazy man.
"Nothing will stop immediately" from the article above means things go slowly DOWN, not UP,
and a new Pseries would be in fact a big thing, which is not hinted by anyone.


Are you serious? Almost all phones are in development for over a year. Thats nothing different to the normal for any company. And yes they do have other high spec phones being developed in other rooms. They develop several different phones at a time to be tested and only a select few make it to the market. Just because we knew about Paris didn't mean it was sure to be released. Like Mizzle and a few others have outlined recently, we know a lot more than we should know and that's why we become disappointed. I think you need to calm down, you're one of the most aggravated members in this thread along with bavlondon2. Keep calm, its not the end of the world, its the start of a new thing.
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Posted: 2008-06-27 13:56
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This explains alot

http://tinyurl.com/4qb3a6
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Posted: 2008-06-27 14:14
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On 2008-06-27 13:56:01, ares wrote:
This explains alot

http://tinyurl.com/4qb3a6



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