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famous12
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^^^ good point
On 2008-06-26 20:22:42, Mizzle wrote:
On 2008-06-26 20:13:31, domipost wrote:
haha, we all think it's UIQ, when you make the comparison with W950 and W960 I think. Else you could've compared W980 allso 
But that one doesn't feature a touch screen, does it?
ya but certainly not a dumb OS like w980i for sure
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_vAmpiRe_
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UIQ is not dead (just the name)... The Symbian Foundation (SF) needs UIQ to implement touch to S60... SF is making Symbian an open scource, so it's up to each phone company to do what they will with it... I'll bet you will still see differences wether it's a  or Nokia from the phone menus..
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bavlondon2
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There is already Tube (s60 touch) waiting to be announced and judging from the demo video what we have seen so far it doesnt look like UIQ as we know it will be adding anything at all to it.
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laurenke01
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On 2008-06-26 22:22:54, bavlondon2 wrote:
I think after all the crap we have had to put up with over the years this is the best thing that could have happened for SE. They are going to use new hardware and they will be using the most popular software. Its a win win situation for us all.
Frankly, I think so too. Even if it's just strictly S60, I happen to like S60 and wouldn't have a problem with that at all--an S60 device with an SE battery and specs--love it. But since the core will be open-source, it may be based on S60, but SE will modify it to their liking which means it will be even better. Plus with S60 Touch on the horizon, it means touchscreen is definitely on the table.
I've never used UIQ before, granted, but it looks like a great system. However, I agree this is needed for the greater good, as it were. Look what SE did/is trying to do with WM. They'll be able to do that with S60 or whatever it'll be called and still have their signature on it.
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makbil
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On 2008-06-26 22:32:07, bavlondon2 wrote:
So dont buy it then. UIQ is dead for SE and Nokia havent yet released S60 touch so I dont know what you are expecting.
Simple. UIQ contribution to the foundation will be with touch screen technology. So after about 2 years we should have a number of Symbian touch screen devices to choose from, the more the better for us. I was just commenting that this development is bad for SE, it takes out their leverage - not that I care too much at this point. |
makbil
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On 2008-06-26 23:34:25, _vAmpiRe_ wrote:
... SF is making Symbian an open scource, so it's up to each phone company to do what they will with it... I'll bet you will still see differences wether it's a or Nokia from the phone menus..
You'll see a lot of difference on my P990's menu compared to other P990s  So that's not a big deal.
Also remember that with the X1, rumor has it that the implementation of the menu by SE is what's causing the delay.
So when the dust settles there are only going to be 3 1/2 mobile OSs, WM, Symbian, Linux and the half Apple
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On 2008-06-26 23:45:16, laurenke01 wrote:
On 2008-06-26 22:22:54, bavlondon2 wrote:
I think after all the crap we have had to put up with over the years this is the best thing that could have happened for SE. They are going to use new hardware and they will be using the most popular software. Its a win win situation for us all.
Frankly, I think so too. Even if it's just strictly S60, I happen to like S60 and wouldn't have a problem with that at all--an S60 device with an SE battery and specs--love it. But since the core will be open-source, it may be based on S60, but SE will modify it to their liking which means it will be even better. Plus with S60 Touch on the horizon, it means touchscreen is definitely on the table.
I've never used UIQ before, granted, but it looks like a great system. However, I agree this is needed for the greater good, as it were. Look what SE did/is trying to do with WM. They'll be able to do that with S60 or whatever it'll be called and still have their signature on it.
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Firstly what is there to suggest SE would automatically make somthing Nokia have better?
Secondly X1 is still the same WM 6.1 as any other wm 6.1 device. As akshay has said many times those things on top like the X1 screens and touchflo3d are all just skins and are not deep down real changes. Are you happy with skin deep changes or do you want a proper full interface?
Whatever SE bring out one thing is for sure, it will be far better than what they would have produced had they kept on the same track.
On 2008-06-26 23:49:28, makbil wrote:
On 2008-06-26 22:32:07, bavlondon2 wrote:
So dont buy it then. UIQ is dead for SE and Nokia havent yet released S60 touch so I dont know what you are expecting.
Simple. UIQ contribution to the foundation will be with touch screen technology. So after about 2 years we should have a number of Symbian touch screen devices to choose from, the more the better for us. I was just commenting that this development is bad for SE, it takes out their leverage - not that I care too much at this point.
But again I have to ask what can UIQ contribute to touch screen if Nokia have developed S60 touch without them? Im sure much of the new UI will be S60 focused anyway.
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makbil
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The question here is whether Nokia has been able to successfully develop a touch screen interface. The fact that it's still not available makes me suspect that they are having some problems with it. On the other hand, UIQ has a proven and well working touch interface which will be their contribution to the SF. In return, SE will be able to use the S60 touch without royalties. If Nokia already has touch capability why would they be doing SE such a big favor?
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laurenke01
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On 2008-06-27 00:04:08, bavlondon2 wrote:
Firstly what is there to suggest SE would automatically make somthing Nokia have better?
Where did I say that? I didn't. I said that an SE-optimized and retooled S60 (or whatever is used) would be "better" than a plain, standard, stock S60. And, yes, skins are fine.
Similarly, a Nokia-optimized S60 (or whatever) interface will be better than the stock version.
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famous12
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anyone have any idea when Opera Mobile 9.5 will be released ? ? |
ares
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http://www.uiqblog.com/2008/0[....]a-95-mobile-release-15th-july/
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famous12
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thanks  |
bavlondon2
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On 2008-06-27 00:31:38, makbil wrote:
The question here is whether Nokia has been able to successfully develop a touch screen interface. The fact that it's still not available makes me suspect that they are having some problems with it. On the other hand, UIQ has a proven and well working touch interface which will be their contribution to the SF. In return, SE will be able to use the S60 touch without royalties. If Nokia already has touch capability why would they be doing SE such a big favor?
You will find out soon with tube. Just remember tube is not even the flagship but from what we have seen in the demo vid it looks more impressive than my current P1.
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makbil
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@ares, I think that's good news and possibly bad news at the same time.
It looks like Opera 9.5 may be freely available, at least the beta version seems to be. However, with the recent developments I'm concerned that they may decide not to waste their energy on a UIQ3 version.
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iqtidar
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eomer also said that esato members will be foaming our mouth with next year's product. |
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Posted: 2008-06-26 23:17
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
