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Tigershark42
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Posted: 2008-06-24 12:49
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yea but is there much point buying a smartphone for that relatively short period of time? Especially when knowing its a dead end of a platform now and wont recieve any more support from the likes of 3rd party developers, etc. You know it wont improve at all after youve bought it. Kind of defeats the point of buying a smartphone IMO. Given this project, it makes sense that SE made the C905 the way they did. Now it feels more like a smartphone to fill that gap somewhat.
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Posted: 2008-06-24 12:52
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LOL, I just just love how people are 'selectively' choosing various news snippets to try and prove 'it's the end of UIQ for ever!'

Er, you very dumb to think that. UIQ will play a massive part in the new platform, just what other touch screen Symbian tech do you think they have? It probably won't be anything like it is now and it won't be called UIQ but neither will S60 be around any more. So I could say it's the end of S60 for ever also.

Roll on device launch in (3 years) with an OS that works like a phone first and can cope with recording video and sending MMS
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Posted: 2008-06-24 12:58
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No thats all well and good. But I want a smartphone NOW! Ill worry about 2 years time in 2 years time. All I know is that a P-series successor is overdue now, and this news just means that on the long term it will be dead before it hits the ground.
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Posted: 2008-06-24 13:03
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@Tigershark: For you who keeps his phone for several years before moving on, then maybe you would see it this way. But 2010 is two years away and for the majority of Esato users, I'd say they'd have one or two phones between now and then so there's nothing wrong with buying say a G900 now.
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Posted: 2008-06-24 13:10
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On 2008-06-24 12:58:30, Tigershark42 wrote:
No thats all well and good. But I want a smartphone NOW! Ill worry about 2 years time in 2 years time.



In this thread we worry about 2-10 years time
Seriously though, I agree, it's too early to think about what will happen in two years. Q4 for the X1 is sooo far away...
Tigershark42
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Posted: 2008-06-24 13:12
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On 2008-06-24 13:03:51, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
@Tigershark: For you who keeps his phone for several years before moving on, then maybe you would see it this way. But 2010 is two years away and for the majority of Esato users, I'd say they'd have one or two phones between now and then so there's nothing wrong with buying say a G900 now.



True.
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Posted: 2008-06-24 14:05
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On 2008-06-24 12:52:08, apolloa wrote:
LOL, I just just love how people are 'selectively' choosing various news snippets to try and prove 'it's the end of UIQ for ever!'



Well, the "various news snippets" are actually from an official white paper from Symbian Foundation. It clearly stated that the UI-part Symbian Foundation will be built on S60 with selected components from UIQ.
The "new snippet" that UIQ probably will sack 200 of their 375 employees was official information from the company itself.
badassmam
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Posted: 2008-06-24 14:09
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Lot of people over-reacting to this news. People are assuming that Nokia, Moto and SE will have an identical looking OS and there will be no differences. There will be differences just like X1 has panels and HTC has TF3D. Each company will have their own version that they will develop to make it unique. I think this is good because you are getting S60 input as well. More apps will be available if the OS is standardised. Anyways, it's is ages away from full implementation so why worry now?

I'm interested in the next P series, Nokia will be directly competing with their TS devices so are we going to see it this year? How about a TS Walkman? Also, in the Paris video we saw that widget thing showing the weather and something similar on Alicia. Will SE be using this on most phones or what? If it is on both UIQ and A200, it illustrates my point above.

A lot of new proto names popping up but most are supposedly Walkmans. What about Xperia? Are any of the testers playing with the Java video device currently ('Yes' will make my day)?
makbil
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Posted: 2008-06-24 15:01
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This is definitely not good news for SE. First of all, they are loosing their only leverage against Nokia, touch screen. It looks like HTC Touch pro will be the winner in a couple of months since SE will probably not have any comparable devices by then...
How about this, SE breaks up, Sony goes back to producing very attractive walkmans and Ericsson teams up with HTC, HTCE
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Posted: 2008-06-24 15:51
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Noooooo, I don't like the "SE breaks up" thing
BoyBawang
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Posted: 2008-06-24 16:07
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I'm not interested about this OS thing. Let them do their business. All i wan't is the P-next! any news about P10?
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Posted: 2008-06-24 16:13
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On 2008-06-24 15:01:13, makbil wrote:
How about this, SE breaks up, Sony goes back to producing very attractive walkmans and Ericsson teams up with HTC, HTCE


I dont think this will be the end of the Sony and Ericsson marrige, I think with the X1 they have shown where they will put all their attentions on in the future. Dont be surprised if Win Mobile is the platform of choice from now on.
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Posted: 2008-06-24 16:20
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On 2008-06-24 16:07:42, BoyBawang wrote:
I'm not interested about this OS thing. Let them do their business. All i wan't is the P-next! any news about P10?

Yes, bad news,
don't expect anything soon..
Tigershark42
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Posted: 2008-06-24 16:27
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I remember a slide show presentation by Mats Pettersson, Vice President, Platform Planning, SE, where he gave the predicted specs of SEs flagshp for 2010. Heres some of the main features:
-Quadband GSM
-8MP Camera + Optical zoom
-WVGA 30fps video recording
-any codec music player
-video telephony
-ARM 11 @400 MHz+ ARM 9 processor
-WLAN 802.11 a/b/g/n
-Bluetooth + UWB
-Multiple cards+ 8 GB built-in memory
-TV, GPS, Compass, NFC, RF-ID, Accelerometer etc
-100 x 40 x 12mm

That is all straight out of the horses mouth. Now of course, things may change, it looks like processors may have already changed, but my point is, if they want to reach these targets, and have the device just 12mm thick aswell, this Symbian Foundation would have to be some fairly hefty stuff to enable some of these things to be possible.


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BoyBawang
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Posted: 2008-06-24 16:31
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Back to the main topic.. Pop Lover will soon show us P10 with UIQ
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