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Sorry guys, SE blew it! |
Dextrr
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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From: New York
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I SOOOO want that N82. The GPS, XENON FLASH and WIFI all wrapped up in Symbian S60 sealed the deal for me!
K850 what? Where? When? Why? |
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plankgatan
Joined: May 20, 2007
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From: Sweden fur alle
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im realy lost here...what exactley did  blew ??????????????
he he....eeeehhhh
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I k850i,  w810i &  T28
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anonymuser
Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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The K850 should have been UIQ3, both for the good of that handset and development of UIQ as a whole - it needs to be in more handsets to get more support, and it also needs to be the focus of SE's development, because make no mistake - smartphone OS's like that are the future of all phones. Nokia know this, which is why S60 is all over their range, not locked away in a couple of high-end devices.
The danger is that it's all too late for UIQ now - with the touchscreen version of S60 right around the corner.
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ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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I agree...they do need to do something...right now i donīt see the point of keeping launch the k series flaghsip without UIQ, and not only the flagship...if UIQ without TS is a reallity, they really should push on it for K series, and some W series
Nokia TS device will come in the end of 2008...lets see what come ahead from SE untill then...what i think should happen is:
Generalization of non-ts UIQ in k and w series
New UIQ for high end touch screen devices
Regarding touch screen devices, specially P series and high end W series, i am sure great things come ahead. I am not so sure about the non-ts devices...they have been rumored to come out over and over, and so far, nothing
SE w880 + Iphone 4 16gb |
jmcomms
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
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UIQ needs to be vastly improved and revised to be usable in a mainstream phone. UIQ 3 has really done a lot of harm for SE (and Motorola with the Z8) as it's just not intuitive enough, or fast enough.
Obviously some of the problems are down to hardware too, but I really don't think the P1i, M660, W950, W960 or the awful P990 are going to remembered as anything other than a disappointment that set back UIQ quite a long way - and certainly allowed Series 60 to walk all over it.
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anonymuser
Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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There may be some truth in that, but that's all the more reason for SE to be concentrating their efforts in developing and improving UIQ, rather than toying with their other non-smart platforms. The P990 was a long time ago, those lessons should have been learnt and built on by now, but it seems UIQ development is still just trickling along as a dissapointing side-project, for niche devices only.
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croatia
Joined: Aug 06, 2003
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From: zagreb croatia europe
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On 2007-11-29 16:34:05, Dextrr wrote:
I SOOOO want that N82. The GPS, XENON FLASH and WIFI all wrapped up in Symbian S60 sealed the deal for me!
K850 what? Where? When? Why?
DONT MIXED PEARS AND APPLES N82 IS SMART(BUT I DONT SEE ANY SMART THING FOR ME IN FREE SYMBIAN STUFFS);K850I IS JUST STUPID OK?IM SATISFIED WITH MY LUMINOUS GREEN!
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NightBlade
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: Nessebar, Bulgaria
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Ugh, most of the cell-phone using population doesn't even care whether they can install anything except games. So they don't care whether a phone has a Java OS or a smartphone one.
Personally, I prefer Java. Much simpler than those mind-boggling Symbian OS'es (also, the Nokia interface is just plain ulgy).
I do not know a single person (from those who I've met in person, of course) that installs anything, except maybe games. People (a majority of the customers) look for user-friendliness and looks and nothing else. |
SilveR.
Joined: May 03, 2002
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So true.. If you want the N82 , then buy it.. Why complain to SE. U don't like it, don't get it.. still lot of people buy K850. No one make u to do it... |
ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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On 2007-11-29 17:15:53, jmcomms wrote:
UIQ needs to be vastly improved and revised to be usable in a mainstream phone. UIQ 3 has really done a lot of harm for SE (and Motorola with the Z8) as it's just not intuitive enough, or fast enough.
Obviously some of the problems are down to hardware too, but I really don't think the P1i, M660, W950, W960 or the awful P990 are going to remembered as anything other than a disappointment that set back UIQ quite a long way - and certainly allowed Series 60 to walk all over it.
Although no one can deny the problems of early P990/W950/M600, i really fail to see how on earth the P1 is a disappointment??? UIQ3 is on its first iteration still. There are very few UIQ3 devices on market, so evolution has necessarily been slower than on s60 v3. However, UIQ3 on the P1, and even on the P990 with newer firmware, is a stable OS.
Of course they need to improve it...thatīs what nokia is also doing to S60 v3 - and demand paging is a great example of that...
If you tell me SE, and Moto, and UIQ, are not doing all that they should to really make UIQ competition to s60, i agre...they should do much more, and learn with Nokia/s60
But UIQ3 ITS NOT so bad like you, that is a personal your view...the P1, as far has i can tell, is being a real success to SE, and all the people i see buying it are really satisfied
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croatia
Joined: Aug 06, 2003
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From: zagreb croatia europe
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On 2007-11-29 18:22:57, SilveR. wrote:
So true.. If you want the N82 , then buy it.. Why complain to SE. U don't like it, don't get it.. still lot of people buy K850. No one make u to do it...
yes thats right
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aqualung
Joined: Dec 02, 2005
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On 2007-11-29 17:26:44, Boinng wrote:
There may be some truth in that, but that's all the more reason for SE to be concentrating their efforts in developing and improving UIQ, rather than toying with their other non-smart platforms. The P990 was a long time ago, those lessons should have been learnt and built on by now, but it seems UIQ development is still just trickling along as a dissapointing side-project, for niche devices only.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-11-29 16:27 ]
Couldn't agree more.
I couriered an Open Letter to the new CEO over a month ago, in which we spelled out the problems with implementation and support of SE smartphones and suggested, nay virtually begged them to let us (forum members) help them with feedback and suggestions.
So far, no sign of a response.
SE sit, immobile and deaf. Dunno if they're paralysed by ignorance, arrogance or something else, but it'll cost them dear the way things are going.
Roll on, S60 TS.
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londonlad123
Joined: Jun 22, 2004
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uiq3 is not ready for se's mainstream phones like the k850 or w910. Se are now doing the only thing they can, completely refreshing uiq3 if the spy pics are anything to go by. The current uiq3 look is very outdated and usuabilty needs to be completely rethought. |
the-flash
Joined: Nov 09, 2007
Posts: 170
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Judging from those pics with the new UIQ, "User interface is key", I would say they have the right idea about what to do.
All they need now is a non-TS UI |
technical-expert
Joined: Mar 13, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: Pacific Rim
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Hi all,
Just came across this post in famous website, i thought i could share with u
To all SE fans:
I dunn know if SymbianOS stinks but A200 stinks for sure.
You need "proper" surgeon hands now to make simple shot from K850 camera(no fingers on back panel... and special Diploma to handle Cybershot). 
Try to lock/unlock keypad without visual contact to "Select" sensor before you put the phone into pocket.
Do not keep display too close to your cheek while talking - you may get your sensor pad jumping to functions.
Admit that you subscribed as SE beta-tester only for 500$.
The only good thing about that phone is battery life.
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