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Sorry guys, SE blew it! |
SIGHUP
Joined: Jul 27, 2005
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Well after the release of the N82, its just what might push me over the edge to go Nokia. I love SEs, but man lately too many problems.
I still love my W850i to death, but the lack of at least EDGE support here stateside hurts. The Nokia N82 looks a bit like an SE phone and has tons of features.
Will wait until its released and I hope SE gets its act together.
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mailboxmanoj
Joined: May 15, 2007
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New phones with new technologies will come and go man...this is telecom tech where things change fast and there are new inventions and discoveries everyday.....
It all lies where your brand loyalty lies, dont worry SE will get its act together....... |
kyle_274
Joined: Apr 19, 2007
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From: south africa
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i agree with u, my loyality also was with SE, wen the 1st spy pics of the w910 surficed i wanted it, its got alot of gud features but they cud hve done better, they cud hve atleast put a 3.2mpx cam and made the audio quality and loudness better, but they didnt, the n81 has all those things, i dnt knw why SE cudnt do it, thats why, im leaving SE...I hope 2 return 1 day wen they hve the really gud phones , just like they used 2
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vegetaleb
Joined: May 03, 2002
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From: Lebanon
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Me too mate!
I have SE phones since the T68 and never though of returning to nokia BUT this year SE has been very very deceiving,they have postponed the release of the K850 for 4 months and this phone is much more expensive than the K series has always been,it has many problems and a horrible design!
The W910 is a very looking phone but with a walkman camera that didn't change since the W850 and a havana color that has been ''prostituted'' for one and unique telephone server...
While Nokia is releasing overall very nice phones for a very acceptable price like the 6500 slide and load of other phones like express music,n81,n82,N95 8gb....
+ we still don't have officially K850(800$ black market) nor W910,and SE here will not have them before Christmas!!! my God even the Americans will have them before us...So sorry SE but I will give Nokia a try for this time |
JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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Ye me to!! i like N82.... very sexy phone!
Se has nothing to compete with it.
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Krubach
Joined: Dec 05, 2002
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From: Sunny Portugal! :)
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On 2007-11-15 09:46:11, SIGHUP wrote:
I still love my W850i to death, but the lack of at least EDGE support here stateside hurts. The Nokia N82 looks a bit like an SE phone and has tons of features.
You should at least document yourself and quit posting complains just because...
Who cares about EDGE if you have HSDPA available in K850i?!?!??
C'mon...
Here you go
EDGE:
«EDGE can carry data speeds up to 236.8 kbit/s for 4 timeslots (theoretical maximum is 473.6 kbit/s for 8 timeslots)»
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/[....]d_Data_Rates_for_GSM_Evolution
HSDPA:
«With 5 Code allocation, QPSK typically offers up to 1.8 Mbit/s peak data rates, while 16QAM up to 3.6. Additional codes (e.g. 10, 15) can also be used to improve these data rates or extend the network capacity throughput significantly. Theoretically, HSDPA can give throughput up to 14.4 Mbit/s.»
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSDPA
[ This Message was edited by: krubach on 2007-11-15 09:48 ] |
JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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On 2007-11-15 10:43:41, Krubach wrote:
On 2007-11-15 09:46:11, SIGHUP wrote:
I still love my W850i to death, but the lack of at least EDGE support here stateside hurts. The Nokia N82 looks a bit like an SE phone and has tons of features.
You should at least document yourself and quit posting complains just because...
Who cares about EDGE if you have HSDPA available in K850i?!?!??
C'mon...
Ye HSDPA and GPRS lol.... hate to have it switching carriers every minute!!
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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On 2007-11-15 10:43:41, Krubach wrote:
You should at least document yourself and quit posting complains just because...
Who cares about EDGE if you have HSDPA available in K850i?!?!??
while the technical specs you post are correct, people who live in areas that have EDGE available and not 3g/HSDPA will obviously care about this issue.
The original poster mentions he is in the US where 3g/HSDPA is still growing but EDGE is just about everywhere
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Hobbs
Joined: Oct 07, 2006
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From: Cape Town,South Africa
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EDGE makes a huge difference.Like it or not.
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technical-expert
Joined: Mar 13, 2007
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From: Pacific Rim
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Who cares about EDGE if you have HSDPA available in K850i?!?!??
Just an Info
SE uses inferior class GPRS & edge
Class 10, 236.8 kbps
GPRS Class 10, 32 - 48 kbps
Nokia
EDGE Class 32, 296 kbps
GPRS Class 32, 107 kbps
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JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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Errrrrr as per gsm arena the K850 has edge....
Is this true?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2003&idPhone1=2177
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masseur
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: Sydney, London
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yes, thats why Krubach mentioned it.
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JK
Joined: Feb 24, 2005
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From: S. Africa - JOZI
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@ Krubach
Why do all these phones still have GPRS?
I mean like you say we have HSDPA, we dont need Edge or GPRS.
Sms's will be sent faster MMS's will be sent faster with HSDPA even Ussd!!
So why do we still have GPRS in phones?
Ahhh its a default data carrier!!
Another example, if the autobahn(hsdpa) is closed why do we now need to sit in stop and go traffic(gprs) when theres a free flowing highway(edge) available.... oh wait thats only for Nokio users.
As for the the SE debate.... as far as candy bar phones go....
the N82 is offering "me" more!!
Wifi
GPS
PTT
TV out
and 4 times more memory....
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BobaFett
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
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edge is important, still... u dont have hsdpa everywhere ( not even 3g ) mostly in the countryside. for example here in austria, in the hills, edge is more then useful, cos no other coverage over 1500 m. same to hungary, where in certain aparts of the country still edge is only given. so edge is a must still imo
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Alpha Trion
Joined: Sep 06, 2007
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From: Midlands UK
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Hi guys
After reading countless posts about SE vs Nokia vs Samsung etc "SE is better because of this", "Nokia are worse because of that" etc etc people should realise that in this day & age IT DOES NOT PAY TO BE A LOYAL CONSUMER TO ONE PARTICULAR BRAND. Yes maybe we've all had particular issues (good & band) with a certain brand (phones & other products) & swore that we wouldn't go back to using that service/product/phone etc. But surely as a consumer we buy what we need, to suit our needs at that particular time.
For instance i've owned samsungs, nokia's, SE's (even motorola's!!) & at no point did the brand come into. I owned these phones because that particular model offered me the best camera/specs/size/weight/useful features etc that was on the market within my budget at that particular time, (well maybe not the motorola!).
Well I guess what i'm trying to say is "shop around", don't neglect a Nokia phone that may tick all your needs purely because its a Nokia & end up with an inferior SE model purely cause its "SE" (or vice versa).
At the end of the day you're only screwing yourself over.
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