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Vlammetje
C702 Cyan
Joined: Mar 01, 2003
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From: Den Haag
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Posted: 2004-12-15 22:49
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On 2004-12-15 18:29:00, methylated_spirit wrote:
Just a quick comment about vlammetje's post: Your second point is spot on! It really is comical, if a little disturbing, the way certain male members behave in regard to wanting pics, email addresses etc! I think we all know who your talking about



No I'm afraid you don't, as I am not talking about one specific person, I am talking about group behaviour that was more disturbing than it was comical
BobaFett
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Joined: Jan 06, 2004
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From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
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Posted: 2004-12-16 01:36
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We all were once newbies or newcomers here, its a must to remember where i "came from"

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chili
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Joined: Dec 09, 2004
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From: Philippines
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Posted: 2004-12-16 11:36
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Maybe not too many newbies post, but I'm sure there are numerous "lurkers" who benefit from Esato everyday, just like I did for a long time. I often felt that I couldn't add anything substantial to the threads so why post.

As a user of another phone brand (Nokia, what else) I was also hesitant to post lest I be ignored or even ridiculed. But I was able to maximize the use of my Nokias from the knowledge that I gained from Esato. Phones aren't too different from one another anyway: What applied to a T610 applied almost equally to my 7250i. (I'm thinking of J2ME apps.)
knight4led
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Joined: May 27, 2004
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From: Califonia, USA
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Posted: 2004-12-16 12:24
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@rdny and meths
with regards to this becoming a general forum with a phone forum attached, there are only so many threads that can pop up for each type of phone before we start seeing some repitition. Some people still come here looking for info on the T610 and most older members have moved onto newer more novel phones. It is worth asking old questions in new ways sometimes in order to make those answers visible again to new members.

It is true that after a certain point there are no new tricks to learn on certain phones, and hearing about those over and over can become tedious to some members. Luckily for those people that are easily bored by slightly older phones keeps releasing new phones and providing us with new things to talk about. There is no need to read every thread though, just skip the ones about the stuff you aren't interested in and jump to the ones about things that you do like.

In the meantime there are plenty of people that still have questions about phones like the T610, T630 or Z600 and they should be able to get an answer without having to search through endless amounts of old threads.

Still, I wish the sticky threads were more visible and more commonly used.
OluYom
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Joined: Oct 27, 2004
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From: Nigeria
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Posted: 2004-12-19 16:34
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I joined Esato about a month ago. On my part, I hardly encountered such flaming as has been described, but I did run into posts where some newbie was being flamed.

Making new members feel welcome is simple courtesy, and no-one knows everything. I think some of these 'flamers' should learn a little more tolerance for others' ignorance & idiosyncracies.

They also need to develop some self-esteem, as I see a lot of mob action involved by these 'new gods' of Esato.
PS: I used to be known as AYA
methylated_spirit
P900 no flip
Joined: Jul 07, 2004
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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Posted: 2004-12-20 14:11
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A jibe, a laugh, something meant in good humour, is okay (in the right circumstances) but some of the things people say are just downright rude.
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scotsboyuk
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Joined: Jun 02, 2003
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From: UK
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Posted: 2004-12-20 14:19
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@meths

How well did you integrate into Esato? Did you feel intimidated or daunted by the community here?
"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC
methylated_spirit
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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Posted: 2004-12-20 14:21
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Hell, i had to force my way in here. If it wasnt for being such good buddies with mince i probably wouldnt have stuck it out, im glad i did though, esato is great, and its nice to be "part of the furniture".
Hello, Scroto!

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scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-20 14:48
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@meths

In what way did you find it difficult?
"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC
methylated_spirit
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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Posted: 2004-12-20 15:20
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There was a wall of indifference, or downright ignorance to a lot of my questions, i still see it quite a bit. It was only when i started being "whacky" and talking outside of the phone forums that people started to treat me as a "real member", and even then it was hard to feel part of esato, still an outsider looking in. I had to force my way in, people tend to ignore you until you hit 500+ posts. (it should be scrapped)
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ukbilly1
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Posted: 2004-12-20 15:25
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Very interesting points, i have been a member for around a year or so after stumbling upon esato after the purchase of a p800, the few questions i have asked were usually met with the reply of 'use the search' which is what i do most of the time i have a problem. There is always a helpfull someone that would just reply 'get a p900' so thats what iv'e done, you will see that i don't post very often due to most of the subjects being covered already. I'm not a phone anorak, so unfortunatley don't have a great deal to contribute back to the forum for which i appologise.

Esato has gotten me out of a few spots for which i thank those people who took the time to reply to a newbie.

Thanks
scotsboyuk
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Posted: 2004-12-20 15:35
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@meths

If there was a smilie to show one raising an eyebrow I would have posted it.

I suppose there is an indifference to newbies on a certain level. Newbies' questions are answered, but I imagine that it might be difficult for newbies to take part in discussions, such as this one.
"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC
methylated_spirit
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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Posted: 2004-12-20 15:49
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No, its more than that. Its not pleasant to read "I stopped posting on esato because of all the noobs" from "veterans" like fijbert. Dammit, i wasnt going to mention names!

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methylated_spirit
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From: Bonnie Scotland
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Posted: 2004-12-20 16:10
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Having said all that, im now part of the furniture, and very comfortable it is too.
Hello, Scroto!

U.G.L.Y. You ain't got no alibi, you ugly!
mince-inside
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Joined: May 09, 2004
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From: Made in Alnwick living in Scot
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Posted: 2004-12-20 16:23
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To post or not post that is the quandary. Wether you post on a subject or not is down to your confidence (which usually grows with age unless you're cocky), in addition to that you have the fear of killing a thread - the dreaded last post.
The member who take it upon themselves to be arsey about re-occuring questions should take a chill pill, calm down and get a life.

(Hello BTW)

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