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Nokia 808 PureView Thread And Discussion |
davidsic
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808 PV -> Pureview 8mp mode exposure -0.3 vivid colours
Real size : http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=59039
Galaxy S3 -> auto mode 8mp exposure -0.5
Real size : http://www.esato.com/phonephotos/viewphotos.php?pid=59038
What do you thing ?
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emporium
Joined: Mar 24, 2009
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From: BiH
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Finaly photo in vivid mode, but it does not look vivid, people already said 808 PW has washed out colors, i'm not sure it is something that can be tolerated in this price range, in spite of details and sharpness, it does not goes one without other. I'm not into tech specs, don't understand why is it made this way, i just look final result.
Ten for I9300, nothing for 808.
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admad
Joined: May 26, 2005
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From: Poland
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Haha, really? Colors are just a matter of proper settings, eventually they can be easly corrected with software, while quality is something that can't be improved. 808 is a clear winner here, that's all. |
mriley
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Well, I actually prefer the photo taken with the Galaxy S3, colours are brighter, contrast is much better and the white balance is correct. However the detail in the Pureview photo is much better - even though it looks washed out (wrong white balance/ dirty lens/ wrong exposure?) even on vivid setting it looks washed out and lacks the punch that the Galaxy s3 has. The difference between these two photos is mainly contrast in my opinion.
Every camera has some kind of in-camera "post processing" that decides the level of contrast to use, saturation, sharpness etc. I bet if you increased the contrast of the Pureview's photo in photoshop then it would end up looking better than that of the Galaxy s3 (which is clearly over-sharpened to make it appear more detailed)
You can't reliably judge from these two pictures but if i had to choose which camera-phone to take with me, it would be the Galaxy S3, because you know they will look punch straight from the phone without needing to bump up colour saturation or contrast in photoshop (which i would never bother with).
The fact of the matter is that it's very difficult to reliably compare the quality of two camera-phones, even if the two photos are taken just seconds apart in the exact same lighting conditions. The quality each camera can make isn't consistent, if you play around with the settings you can make a much nicer (/poorer) result.
Take these two photos for example, it appears they're taken by completely different phones, but they were both taken with my old  Elm just seconds apart: first photo set on auto, second on daylight setting with decreased EV.
This is why i would choose the Galaxy S3, you just dont need 40+ megapixels in a camera-phone. Maybe you would if you were taking landscape shots that need a high res sensor, but for the average photo its the in- camera processing that determines the quality of the photo.
TLDR:
Not worth sacrificing the compact size of the Galaxy S3 with the brick of the Pureview when it can't produce photos on auto mode that have a good punch. Same overall results can be acheived with galaxy s3 if you know what you're doing and know how to use light effectively. That is what determines whether a photo is decent, not the camera itself (most of the time)
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Bonovox
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Not been on here for a while and this is my last post cos I hate this forum now. @Guaralhos no you talk out your backside. No camera phone competes with any DSLR. You seriously need an eye test. The Pureview to me is over rated seen some pics recently taken by davidsic who is normally a good photographer. But I found the images a touch blurry. Bye
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rikken
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From: Norway
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I prefer the S III picture, it is brighter and clearer 
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reeflotz
Joined: Jun 15, 2010
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From: Philippines
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nice comparison davidsic
personally just by looking at those reduced to reasonable sizes for web uploads or printing regular size photos, both are almost the same in details, with the S3 definitely having better contrast.
Only in full size 8mp that I can easily see that the 808 is miles ahead and would definitely prefer it over the S3.
but usually when I print photos I only print them to sizes 6"x4" or 7"x5" in which, 5 megapixels is more than enough really, because having 5 megapixels, 72 dpi (which is the common dpi for mobilephone photos) resizing it at 300 dpi would still print a photo size of 8"x6" which is high quality print already.
EDIT:
for regular printing and photo sharing, I don't think I'll get the benefit of 808, I'll only benefit from it if I need to print a much larger photo.
still, the 808 has xenon flash though, something the S3 does not have.
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cu015170
Joined: Oct 26, 2010
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The 808 jpeg processing is tuned to produce the most natural colors possible, with the available hardware.. from that point is all personal preference, and it can be adjusted later.. you can add color, but you can't add quality. Nokia had the exact same approach with the N8, which I liked a lot.
Only in full size 8mp that I can easily see that the 808 is miles ahead and would definitely prefer it over the S3.
Nothing else comes even close when it comes to noise levels and detail, but for most people the sony sensor in the Gs3/iPhone 4s is perfectly fine.
Again, the 808 is not about one aspect, is the full package, and range of effectiveness that makes it attractive.
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Guarulhos
Joined: Jan 02, 2011
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From: Guarulhos - Brazil
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Cu015170...
You Summed Up In a Clear And Explicit What I Think And Especially What They Think Who Really Understands Photography !
Congratulations... Nothing To Add !!!
P.S: NOKIA 808 PUREVIEW (__ABYSS__) ALL OTHER CELL WITH INTEGRATED DIGITAL CAMERA !!! |
cu015170
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^thanks.. and you are very enthusiastic about the 808.. it will be nice to see what it can do with some of those amazing landscapes that you manage to capture so often.
Anyway, I think I took this photo in vivid mode, and even then it didn't over do it at all, saturation is kept at bay, and colors are accurate to the scene. Overall quality is excellent..
Here are two good reviews, one from Romania, and one from Croatia (both in eng)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3_Tfstv2Sw
http://www.gadgeterija.net/20[....]xels-are-more-than-irrelevant/
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Guarulhos
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From: Guarulhos - Brazil
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Cu015170...
Nice Tip... Excellent Reviews !
Actually Every Day That Passes, More And More Impressed Me With The Quality Of The King Of Cameraphones !!!
On August 30, Begins The Officers Of This Excellent Smartphone Sales In Brazil And In Spite Of Its High (€ 810) Will Purchase - It Quickly, To Join The PUREVIEWCLUB !!! |
punitpanchal
Joined: Jul 24, 2012
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Yeah... Really very nice. Nokia 808 Pureview Rocks with 41 megapixel camera sensor. |
cu015170
Joined: Oct 26, 2010
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i uploaded a pic for the wiki article, surprised it didn't have one
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_808_PureView
took couple of snaps with the "big" camera
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mriley
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From: UK
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Its so thin! 
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Guarulhos
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Cu015170...
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