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Duran
Joined: Aug 25, 2006
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On 2007-12-26 01:17:18, Mizzle wrote:
@soane28
You should NEVER, I repeat, NEVER use the digital zoom on ANY cameras, and especially not camera phones!
he's saying that you should zoom the picture AFTER you've taken it..so you can see the detail of the picture |
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Mizzle
Joined: Oct 06, 2006
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Awww cr*p, sorry. Don't mind me 
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Paco
Joined: Jan 11, 2002
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Doesn't matter how low I go with the bitrate. When I fast forward a video, audio and video always lose sync.
On 2007-12-25 18:44:51, kimot01 wrote:
@chai
lower the bitrate of the video and the audio.,
320kbps for video
80kbps for audio
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darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
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@PACO Its something that SE are poor at. Videos. I dont know why but SE K850 is shocking for the video on the phone.
I have the same problem as you know matter what you do. When you fast forware or rewind it becomes out of sync. To be honest Ive given up on the Video function and am starting to loose faith in the phone now as well.
This is my 5th phone and its 100% better than all the other, I dont hold out much faith in it. I also dont give up much hope for SE any more either. They have lost the plot and got this flagship phone very wrong at the min.
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obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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Yep. I think this firmware update in January better be the biggest update in SE K series history, because they seriously flopped on this one... these bugs are just stupid and irritating.
I may consider the N95 8GB if the update fails to meet consumer standards, or the N82, since that phone is also coming down in price. Or heck, even go back to a K790a. |
darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
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I wouldnt hold out on the firmware being gr8
The bugs that are in the phone should have never been there in the first place. What the hell is wrong with SE. Poor phone, Poor Build quality, Poor Camera and Poor software.
I can take grat shots with the phone, but i can also get the phone to take crap shots as well.
Time for people to go at the top at SE.
R1DA038 is what we beleive is coming out which is a camera drvier update fix. However from what ive heard this firmware is poor. Lots of people on the internet are now complaining of memory issues with the phone. Video function still isnt fixed and out of sync as well.
N82 is looking better by the day
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-26 20:21 ] |
jmcomms
Joined: Mar 12, 2002
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The T650 (or indeed other older platform models) copes very well with video at higher bitrates. Indeed, the video that is out of sync by 2-3 seconds at the start and nearly 1 or 2 minutes by the end of a 30 minute video on my K850i works fine on the T650 (aka K770).
My W960i also plays video just fine. In other words, it's only the K850 and W910 that mess up!
This MUST be fixable on the next firmware revision. It's simply shocking that it happened in the first place!
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obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
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From: Toronto
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Well, I guess you do have to give them some time to get the fixes out, considering it's a new platform that the K850i/W910i run on.
I wouldn't mind waiting since I just try to use the phone as little as I can so I don't get pissed off from the quirks. |
darrengf
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On 2007-12-25 18:42:29, chai_ wrote:
Help! I'm not sure if this is a firmware problem but... my videos are out of sync with the sounds. I have the most recent firmware though (R1DA038), and it's Hong Kong version. Does this mean I have to wait until they fix it? Or do I really have to return my phone?
Sorry people, this is what Chai wrote the other day after updating to the new firmware that has just been released to some networks and countries.
So from this i think we are in for a long wait.
I have wrote a email to SE about the phone and the problems, but you only ever get a standard response and nothing seems to be getting done about it. They are just not listening to there customers any more.
I feel like i have been robbed of my money for something that isnt worth anything.
[ This Message was edited by: darrengf on 2007-12-26 20:58 ] |
Krzysiecw
Joined: May 23, 2006
Posts: 218
From: Poland/UK
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I think R1DA038 is only update for poepole who can`t carry anymore problem with camera and thay don`t want to listetning that they have to wait until January ... a hope the camdriver is taken from the general release which will come in January ... It`s just a part of the new big firmware lets call it "January firmware"  But i hope the camdriver in January firmware will be anyway better then 3.4 And most of the bugs will be fixed ... However ... I don`t have (or feel) so many bugs on my own ... The phone could be better in software but it doesn`t make me feel like "break up" with SE 
[ This Message was edited by: Krzysiecw on 2007-12-26 21:25 ] |
darrengf
Joined: Dec 21, 2003
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Well from reading the internet and other forums.
R1AD038 is still problamatic when taking photos.
Alot of people are staill saying that even with the new firmware the phone can and does take dark shots even with the flash.
So from this it looks like SE isnt listening or even fixing the phone.
I think now that the K850 may have a major flaw and its possible that the processor in the phone can not handle the new a200 platform. Which leads me to beleive that no matter what SE does to the firmware, it will never be right.
The processor in the K850 is no different to the K850, however the K800 processor has less to do in the A100 platform so resulting in a much smoother and better performance phone.
However when you put a old processor with New software then alot of the times the processor cant cope with the demand.
Any one elses views on this? |
amrmag
Joined: Dec 21, 2007
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On 2007-12-20 17:05:46, franique wrote:
anyone knows how to get the Russian language installation? my phone was previously installed with Russian lang but soon after i debranded it to Hong Kong (037), all i have now is English and Chinese langs avail.
try to do master rest and it will fix the problem |
obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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I don't trust anyone on the net that has faulty photos because they probably are just holding the phone in a way that obstructs the flash.
Seriously, everyone I know who has a K850i has no problems with the camera. You have to give the flash a lot of clearance in order for the phone to produce good photos. The flash is located differently than on the K800 so you have to hold it as instructed in the user manual.
I won't believe anyone unless they provide video proof of the phone being faulty. Perhaps there may be one or two cases, but then again just get the phone replaced.
I don't think R1DA038 is the big update, I'm sure there will be more to come, this was the case for the K800 - some fixes led to new bugs, but it took them a while to get it straightened out. Unfortunately I really hate the lagginess of the UI (perhaps it's the processor on the new A2 platform?) and I believed that it could be fixed with firmware updates, but I am convinced otherwise right now...
All I can hope is for this phone to be in top shape by February 1. If not, then I will kiss this phone goodbye. Although I do have to admit, I am quite attracted to the design of the K850i... it will be hard to let it go. At least the Nokia N95 8GB will look quite tempting by then...
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Sebby
Joined: Dec 12, 2004
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From: London, UK
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What can you say? It's a phone with so much potential that simply fails to deliver. I don't doubt that SE will sort the software issues, but unless it's just proving extremely difficult for them, they don't seem to be in a rush to restore our lost confidence.
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obentou
Joined: Sep 19, 2005
Posts: 364
From: Toronto
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I am unsure if it's company arrogance or whatever, but all they have to do is simply give us feedback, whether or not it is on forums or on their own website.
We all know that communication is vital in establishing a relationship with customer and a company... although I have heard stories that SE reads what we post at Esato, unless we are given credible feedback this rumour is just false hope.
Never in my life have I experienced a phone with this many bugs... the K800 was bad back then, but man, it just gets worse. |
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