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Muhammad-Oli
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You'll notice in the BeiBei video that there is a lack of the feminine flowers on the white version, and there is a black border round the screen rather than white. So there is still hope for those who had dismissed the phone as too girly because of those flowers. 
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not_me
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I thought the black border was the old version of the white one, whereas the one with the flowers is the new one, don't know though, girly or not I don't like it, I would go for the grey/blue variant instead !
What would be the expected retail price ?
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BoyBawang
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where's m-one? Is the paris video just as short? |
Angello
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not at all  |
clauf
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not an impressive demo video -_-" the music just dies off the end... haha cliffhanger... |
Tigershark42
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I really look forward to both the Paris video and the comparisson of P1 and Paris. Where's that Mizzle when you need him  M-one, too
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BoyBawang
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What a shame for Bebei. with so many buttons, not one can invoke the taskmanager. read the G702 manual |
Mr.BJ
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@Angello, thanx for that video mate
waiting for Paris showtime |
my ninja
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On 2008-05-26 23:49:16, xell wrote:
On 2008-05-26 21:43:26, PeterKay wrote:
yea my thoughts exactly, look youve given enough smilies, fall back let SE do their thing, the hype you created had its hand in this monster thread and would even go so far as to say the disappointment falls squarely on YOUR shoulders.
anyway, the all in one device seems to be a lost art over at SE.
samsung modules ... SE makes DSLR cameras and puts them in phones already ... this is an appalling development. i dont know why VGA is so hard to accept, i dont know why no one thinks that SE should get the w61s out to the rest of the world. the arguments that ppl post for the mediocrity coming out of SE for the USA/EU are illogical when its abundantly clear that they can and HAVE developed and released phones with the specs that are in question.
* 5.11 megapixel cmos sensor
- uses the same ‘Exmor’ sensor technology from Sony’s pro ‘α Alpha’ series of DSLRs
* Kaokime Lite (顔キメLite)
- auto adjusts brightness upon face detection for best possible facial tones
* Smile Shutter Lite (スマイルシャッターLite)
- auto shutter release upon detecting a smile (huh?)
* Auto focus
* Auto lens cover
* Anti-shake
* 3x optical zoom
* 3cm macro
* ISO 1600
* LED flash
* 2.8-inch LCD
- 480×800px wide-VGA resolution, 260,000 colours, ‘Reality MAX’ technology from Sony’s line of Bravia TVs
* Other stuff: Micro-SD card slot (up to 2GB), TV-out, bluetooth, GPS, music, videos, EZ Navi, EZ FeliCa, etc., etc.
* Dimensions: W:50mm × H:114mm × D:22mm (thickest point: 24mm)
* Weight: 149g
* Release date: April 2008
so its COMPLETELY irrelevant to even say anything to the contrary when not only CAN then do it, they have and RELEASED phones with the features that most of us are clamoring for in phones that have yet to be announced, so why should a younger phone have weaker features than an older phone, as far as im concerned anything less is a slap in the face, and an insult to my intelligence. lets be honest here SE is just dicking around. It blows my mind why anyone would accept anything less, engineering mediocrity is the bane of my existence. |
moogoo
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It isn't a slap in the face. THe fact of the matter is, Japan has always been and will always been ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to mobile technology. This is true because of the HIGH demand for your listed features and the high amount of competition for the lucrative market. Such features, although desired by many of us here on esato, are not in super high demand outside of japan. It wouldn't be logical for SE to produce such high-end devices for a market that really doesn't want/need it yet.
That is the only reason they are holding back. We just have to accept that Japan will always be at least a year ahead of the rest of the world in mobile tech.
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S4k1s
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On 2008-05-27 19:07:27, moogoo wrote:
It isn't a slap in the face. THe fact of the matter is, Japan has always been and will always been ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to mobile technology. This is true because of the HIGH demand for your listed features and the high amount of competition for the lucrative market. Such features, although desired by many of us here on esato, are not in super high demand outside of japan. It wouldn't be logical for SE to produce such high-end devices for a market that really doesn't want/need it yet.
That is the only reason they are holding back. We just have to accept that Japan will always be at least a year ahead of the rest of the world in mobile tech.
Yes, recent SALES really show how the market accepts  holding back...
Also, is the beibei stylus going to point out like that? People will get hurt on that thing, it is a lawsuit waiting to happen in the US and A >.< |
my ninja
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my question is WHY?
if they build it, the users will come.
plain as day, look everyone went to the FUTURISTIC iPhone that didnt even have 3G, theres a market its not for SE to say hey they dont want it. the fact that they can manufacture the headsets with very little in the realm of dev costs ... such as ford and audi using the same platform for many of the cars in their line up to save money, because when you standardize production you can cut costs instead of developing individual platforms independently.
all im saying is that, theres no longer a need for japan to lead, at least make the unit AVAILABLE as its already being produced, but for global frequencies, its easier than making a completely separate unit. the production is already there. theres really no excuse ...
it is a slap to the face in the regard that they act like what they give us is the cats meow, and cleary show IN ENGLSIH no less that they produce better phones in a different region. It amazes me how those phones they make over in nippon have english menu selection.
no, your right it isnt a slap so much as a them defecating on my ability to type ".co.jp" instead of ".com" |
Tigershark42
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On 2008-05-27 19:07:27, moogoo wrote:
It isn't a slap in the face. THe fact of the matter is, Japan has always been and will always been ahead of the rest of the world when it comes to mobile technology. This is true because of the HIGH demand for your listed features and the high amount of competition for the lucrative market. Such features, although desired by many of us here on esato, are not in super high demand outside of japan. It wouldn't be logical for SE to produce such high-end devices for a market that really doesn't want/need it yet.
That is the only reason they are holding back. We just have to accept that Japan will always be at least a year ahead of the rest of the world in mobile tech.
Moogoo hit the nail right on the head there. Thats precisely what I meant when I said to Makbil that Sony and Ericsson (and therefore SE) arent stupid. Theyre indeed capable of the specs you want, Japanese handsets are proof of this. But the means to do better things will always be there. These are not technological but geographical and economic restrictions. It costs alot of money to make such devices, Japan is willing to be very demanding when it comes to this sort of thing, just to be several years ahead of the rest of the world in terms of technology. And as a result, indeed they are. Other markets arent as technologically advanced yet due to lack of necessity, people dont expect that level of technology, so it isnt supplied. Therefore providing it would not be sustainable.
Dont think this is just SE. Im waiting for Sony products I want to become available outside of Japan. This is the case across the board when it comes to electronics. The same is the case with many manufacturers. May I kindly suggest though, if you so crave numbers on a list, please either go to Japan (lol jk!) or look to a different manufacturer for solutions which better suit your needs (eg HTC, is Taiwanese, I dont think they are bound to such restrictions, but I dont know, so dont hold me to that). |
makbil
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On 2008-05-27 14:16:16, Tigershark42 wrote:
I think K850, W910 and W960 are great products on the whole. I think SE acknowledge the mistakes of the P990 and are now cautious about the UIQ software and the hardware used for it, thats why I think what they want to do is wait for the new UIQ to come out, develop with that afresh, with proper hardware, then make some great devices and go from there. It makes sense.
I hope you are right, we'll just have to wait and see.
If I didn't have a P990, I too might have been interested in P1, P5 etc. but there just isn't that much difference to justify the extra expense.
I guess we are all waiting for that device that will justify spending the upgrade money on.
P990i: A mistake, a curse and a disgrace  So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD |
Tigershark42
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On 2008-05-27 01:42:52, Mizzle wrote:
On 2008-05-26 21:51:21, Tigershark42 wrote:
Probably right, but Mizzle still gets sent acceptance units before theyre released.
Once again, I failed to find this being a statement of mine anywhere on the web...
Ahem, ahem, do I misread something here, my dear Mizzle, when I quote:
'G900 review coming fairly soon. I have not yet received my review unit, although it can’t take long now.'
(Kay fine, you could say that G900 is released now anyway, but that was never my point. Doesnt really matter, I was only proving a point about how there are people who are involved in this sort of thing in a way that theyre always up to date with whats just come out and the latest handsets).
Talking about latest handsets, how about that P1 and Paris comparisson
Look forward to the G900 review too m8, looks to be an excellent performer IMO
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Posted: 2008-05-27 16:31
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
