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Yakkaimono
Joined: Mar 19, 2008
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From: Germany/ Bangladesh
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Where do you want to get the Diamond for 400€?
AFAIK the Diamond's price lies approximately at 570€. | |
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thefanboy
Joined: Nov 05, 2007
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In India,
http://www.chinaknowledge.com[....]ws-detail.aspx?type=1&id=15415
27500 Indian Rupees is approx 409 Euro.
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scouser_75
Joined: May 24, 2003
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Guys, I've been wanting to post this for some time now, but for some reason or another have refrained. But I feel I have to do so now...
Think about SE's business/marketing structure logically.
It is "rumoured" that Paris will be their all singing, all dancing flagship model, right?
Now, other than a few "teaser" pictures we have seen nothing more in terms of spec or actual physical appearance. And chances are we will not have seen anything until mid-June at the earliest.
Before SE's possible announcement, a certain fruit flavoured manufacturer will be announcing their new all singing, all dancing phone on June 9th. And from what I'm reading and hearing it is going to smash most other mobiles clean out of the water... and also this time round may not have a sole network provider attached. Therefore, I can imagine a lot of people this time snapping up this fruity mobile phone pretty much soon after its release.
SE on the other hand, by announcing Paris at a later date will therefore lose a lot of customers. If SE are so sure that Paris is the next best thing then they would try and steal away customers from other brands by announcing it before June 9th, and labelling it as the true beater of fruit products! But they haven't... and chances are they won't. If on the off-chance they do have the beez-neez of a phone and announce it AFTER June 9th, they would have to consider sacking the entire marketing and sales department!!!
As for the SE Fanboys - lads, do you really think SE care about what you think or want? Sales to Fanboys, compared to sales to everyone else, are a pittance so SE couldn't care less.
Sorry, but that is my possible logical explanation to this sorry saga.
PS I forgot to mention that in August Nokia will be releasing they N96. Judging by the popularity of the N95 I am certain people who haven't gone "fruity" will wait 2 more months for the N96 (not me though as I HATE Nokia customer service!!!)
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sassafras
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Posts: 26
From: Sweden
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^ it's all a bit of a mess at the moment, with rumours, guesses, prototype (p)reviews and fanboy sentiment all thrown into the mix. add to that absolute silence from SE on the topic and its a veritable bitches brew.
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razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Mars
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Eldar stated that Paris and G900 utilizes a samsung camera. as proven by K770 and T650 those samsung modules produces excellent images with good details and less noise(hence eliminating the aggressive application for N-R on images). and as pop lover have shown G900 images have better color rendering than K850. Some Paris pictures that leaked as well furtherly complements it(Well if you guys have seen those leaked low light samples from paris camera).So with all these scenarios, I ended up strongly believing in PK's verdict when he told us that Paris produces better results than it's Cybershot brethens(C902 and K850).
On the other side of the coin(the sad part of the story), Sony Camera modules are becoming weaker and weaker that even a lesser famous mobile camera manufacturer like toshiba and OmniVision which happens to be the modules used in nokia's flagship imaging phones like N82 and N95 were able to outperform it 
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Tigershark42
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I like Paris alot. The UI of G900 is great (see here: http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-g900-en.shtml). With a theme or two made to your liking, itll look superb.
Moreover, Ive been reading up the differences between QVGA and VGA screens. Sure VGA is bigger, and can have around 100 more pixels per inch compared to QVGA screens, there are disadvantages. VGA requires more processing, and as a result, its slower overall. Sure there are processors to handle it, but the sorts of phones with such processors also end up being bricks. Another problem with VGA is that because the screen is larger, it consumes more battery life. Further to this, WM powered solutions with VGA screens cant have more than 65k colours. Now my K700i has 65k colours, and if you put in a theme with a gradient accross the screen, the colour steps look incredibly obvious. On a larger VGA screen, this would be even more ugly to look at.
On the other hand, SE's QVGA screens will be faster, richer in colour (262k colours), consume less battery power, it has the compatibility of many, many apps going for it, and, to be honest with you, you wont be missing out on much. My K700i has around 165 PPI, with a 2.6" QVGA screen having around 153 PPI, so its almost the same level of detail, your eye wont be able to pick up the difference. So between a common 2.6" QVGA screen and a 2.8" or 3.0" VGA screen, you would only notice the difference if you put them next to each other, and looked very closely at the screen. But for most day to day use where your eyes arent 1cm from the screen, you wont even notice.
VGA will come in the future, but it isnt a necessity. However, I take my arguement back once really powerful batteries come out, processors handle the screen with ease and a VGA screen is seen on a different platform to WM, because you can notice the colour difference. I suppose the Iphone already has this, you could say, but then again its just about all the iphone has (excluding, of course, complete incompatibility with just about everything that exists anyway).
So thats that. There are only a few things I really want from Paris at this point in time. The main ones are therefore UIQ 3.3 (so I can have Opera 9.5- which IMHO WILL set it appart from the G900), and the other is a successful camera (fingers crossed for K770i quality, including this fancy photoflash thing that I want). Im slightly concerned for the processing speed, but people seem to say the same processor is being used more efficiently to give much snappier results these days, so why pay more for something you dont need. Only 400 euros  Go Paris! |
ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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In all this gloom and doom mood, people forget that we will end 2008 with the market full of decent (yet not top class) affordable UIQ devices, at least 4 launched in 2008 (g700, g900, paris, beibei), something that never happened before (before, the maximum number of UIQ launches was 2)
Not only that, there will be at least NINE UIQ 3.x models from SE on the hands of users (plus 2 or more from Moto). Compare that with the number of UIQ devices SE launched before (P800, P900 and P910)...
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razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Mars
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Tigershark:
Having utilized the samsung camera module, paris will surely perform faster than what it's used to be with other  5mp phones. as i said samsung modules in SE phones does not perform aggressive N-Rs which uses more processing from the CPU. and less N-R means more expressed details albeit leaves a grainy environment and probably noise footprint. but given samsung's history of success on it's implementation on SE 3mp phones and some paris/G900 retail version ("see my previous post for further elaboration") sample pics that showed better image quality than K850. for sure Paris and G900 camera will deliver
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razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Mars
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On 2008-05-26 16:05:33, ares wrote:
In all this gloom and doom mood, people forget that we will end 2008 with the market full of decent (yet not top class) affordable UIQ devices, at least 4 launched in 2008 (g700, g900, paris, beibei), something that never happened before (before, the maximum number of UIQ launches was 2)
Not only that, there will be at least NINE UIQ 3.x models from SE on the hands of users (plus 2 or more from Moto). Compare that with the number of UIQ devices SE launched before (P800, P900 and P910)...
You forgot about arima, benq p30(now 6708), motorola A9/A1000 that'll be the reason why UIQ support is deemed stronger than what UIQ is now.
but i agree with you, SE is now trying to make the best out of it's UIQ series. this might help UIQ developer base to expand hence more applications written for the platform
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moshimaru
Joined: Oct 28, 2007
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From: marikina, philippines
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hey...found beibei with stylus... it looks kinda cute...
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Tigershark42
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I wonder whether or not the on screen keyboard has been improved on UIQ 3.3. Its about time there was a good one adapted for finger use. Theres no such thing as a useful virtual keyboard which needs to be used with a stylus- it defeats the entire point of what a keyboard is. Hopefully a good Iphoney type app comes along which does the job well. |
Pop Lover
Joined: Jun 15, 2007
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From: Amman, Jordan
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NICE  |
the-flash
Joined: Nov 09, 2007
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So anyway I guess that Shiho and Patti will be announced together since they both will debut the A3 platform? |
shery
Joined: Nov 08, 2006
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is shiho to have 2.4 inch screen.with touch buttons all around.
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xironghostx
Joined: Feb 06, 2006
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From: Sweden
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...and QVGA resolution  (shiho) | |
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