Posted by Hawk12
Welcome. Place to post your wishlist, real info and all fake info posted on weibo that in the end just let us all down.
My wishlist for 2023 lineup:
1) Pro-i mark 2
- 6,6" 21:9 native 10bit QD-oled LTPO 3.0
- 8g2, 12GB ddr5x , 1TB ufs4.0
- USB 3.2 gen 2
- 50MP bayer 1" 23mm f1.2- f1.6-f2.0- f2.4-f2.8-f3.2-f3.6-f4.0, 12MP 1/1.65" " 10mm f2.0 , 12MP 1/1.65" 70-200 f2.0-f2.8
- 12MP micro matrix cam
- gorilla victus + front/rear, IP68, micro sd slot, earphone jack
- 5200mAh
2) 1 mark 5
- 6,6" 21:9 native 10bit, LTPO 2.0
- 8g2, 12GB ddr5x, 512GB ufs 4.0
- usb 3.2 gen 2
- 50MP 1/1.2" bayer 23mm f1.8 , 12MP 1/2.3" 12mm f2.0 + 1/2.6" 85-125mm f2.0-f2.6
- 12MP micro matrix selfie
- gorilla victus front/rear, IP68, micro sd slot, earphone jack
- 5000mAh
3) 5 mark 5
- 6,2" 21:9 native 10bit, LTPO 2.0
- 8g2, 12GB ddr5x, 256GB ufs 4.0
- usb 3.2 gen 2
- 50MP 1/1.2" bayer 23mm f1.8 , 12MP 1/2.3" 12mm f2.0 + 1/2.6" 70-105mm f2.0-f2.6
- 12MP micro matrix selfie
- gorilla victus front/rear, IP68, micro sd slot, earphone jack
- 5000mAh
4) 10 mark 5
- 6,0" 21:9 HDR
- 6g1 , 8GB ddr4x, 128/256GB ufs3.1
- usb 3.1
- 12MP 1/1.65" 24mm f1.8 + 12MP 1/2.8" 16mm f2.2 + 12MP 1/3.2" 60mm f2.4
- 12MP 1/3.4" f2.0 selfie
- gorilla victus front, goriila 6 rear, micro sd slot, earphone jack, ip68, stereo speakers
- 5000mAh
5) Ace mark 4 / Ace Mark 4 Plus
- 5,6" /6.5" 21:9
- 4g1, 6GB , 128GB
- 12MP 1/2.6" 25mm f1.8"
- 8MP 1/3.2" f2.0 selfie
- gorilla victus front, plastic back, micro sd slot, ip68
- 4500/ 5000mAh
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2022-11-16 23:07 ]
Posted by Tizzo
Oooh, that would be amazing!
Bring on 2023 lineup!
Posted by goldenface
I'd like to see the return of the lanyard loop on all phones.
Posted by RacSony
Is it possible for 1v to be announced this year and released Feb-Mar?
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=14731
Posted by xpr
On 2022-11-16 23:36:57, Hawk12 wrote:
Welcome. Place to post your wishlist, real info and all fake info posted on weibo that in the end just let us all down.
My wishlist for 2023 lineup:
1) Pro-i mark 2
- 6,6" 21:9 native 10bit QD-oled LTPO 3.0
- 8g2, 12GB ddr5x , 1TB ufs4.0
- USB 3.2 gen 2
- 50MP bayer 1" 23mm f1.2- f1.6-f2.0- f2.4-f2.8-f3.2-f3.6-f4.0, 12MP 1/1.65" " 10mm f2.0 , 12MP 1/1.65" 70-200 f2.0-f2.8
- 12MP micro matrix cam
- gorilla victus + front/rear, IP68, micro sd slot, earphone jack
- 5200mAh
2) 1 mark 5
- 6,6" 21:9 native 10bit, LTPO 2.0
- 8g2, 12GB ddr5x, 512GB ufs 4.0
- usb 3.2 gen 2
- 50MP 1/1.2" bayer 23mm f1.8 , 12MP 1/2.3" 12mm f2.0 + 1/2.6" 85-125mm f2.0-f2.6
- 12MP micro matrix selfie
- gorilla victus front/rear, IP68, micro sd slot, earphone jack
- 5000mAh
3) 5 mark 5
- 6,2" 21:9 native 10bit, LTPO 2.0
- 8g2, 12GB ddr5x, 256GB ufs 4.0
- usb 3.2 gen 2
- 50MP 1/1.2" bayer 23mm f1.8 , 12MP 1/2.3" 12mm f2.0 + 1/2.6" 70-105mm f2.0-f2.6
- 12MP micro matrix selfie
- gorilla victus front/rear, IP68, micro sd slot, earphone jack
- 5000mAh
4) 10 mark 5
- 6,0" 21:9 HDR
- 6g1 , 8GB ddr4x, 128/256GB ufs3.1
- usb 3.1
- 12MP 1/1.65" 24mm f1.8 + 12MP 1/2.8" 16mm f2.2 + 12MP 1/3.2" 60mm f2.4
- 12MP 1/3.4" f2.0 selfie
- gorilla victus front, goriila 6 rear, micro sd slot, earphone jack, ip68, stereo speakers
- 5000mAh
5) Ace mark 4 / Ace Mark 4 Plus
- 5,6" /6.5" 21:9
- 4g1, 6GB , 128GB
- 12MP 1/2.6" 25mm f1.8"
- 8MP 1/3.2" f2.0 selfie
- gorilla victus front, plastic back, micro sd slot, ip68
- 4500/ 5000mAh
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2022-11-16 23:07 ]
I really hope they won't make that QB bullshit
Posted by Hawk12
Got cheap XA on ebay (€3 + €8 shipping) , did not realize it is dummy. 😅
At least it is very well made. Is there anything inside it?
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2022-11-18 17:53 ]
Posted by sidneylopsides
On 2022-11-18 18:52:56, Hawk12 wrote:
Got cheap XA on ebay (€3 + €8 shipping) , did not realize it is dummy. 😅
At least it is very well made. Is there anything inside it?
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2022-11-18 17:53 ]
Nah, there's nothing inside, maybe a lump of metal so it's the right weight.
I've got boxes of dummies, there all the same.
There was a point where Carphone Warehouse would use real cheap phones instead of dummies, the Samsung Toco Lite was one.
Posted by goldenface
I even have a dummy X10 somewhere, ha ha. I once ordered a clay planter for my houseplants, when it arrived it was for a dolls house.
Mobile World Congress is back
Will the new Pro be announced there?
Posted by Hawk12
I think sony likes the recorded press. They can do it from Japan and just add scenes from content creators. Some ppl even think those listed by Qualcomm may be announced in november/december. I think sony should do early february and start shipping 3-4 weeks at most to have new stuff to make ppl more interested in current phones. Also, if there is new pro-i, should not wait until end of year. Since 6g1 is based on 778 and trades two a55 for two A78, not sure if 10 V will be able to have that battery endurance that huge.
Posted by -XYZ
I do hope the next flagship is a bit cheaper.
Posted by goldenface
Fat chance of that. If they can get the lower tier phones to fly off the shelves, then maybe, but for now, it's high price, big margins.
Posted by Hawk12
Sony should get 5iv, do some cuts and call it 10 v. Cut usb 3.2/ufs3.1/8g1/8GB ddr5 and replace with usb c 3.1/ufs2.2/6g1/8GB ddr4x. This would save money. Also trade the other two cameras for simple imx used as main cam of 10 iv.
Posted by Hawk12
Let's list fake info on weibo about 2023 lineup: 7" screen, LTPO, exmor larger than 1.0 type, ceramic type back, 60% better cooling.
Has anyone found more fake info?
Posted by amardeep
Has anyone found more fake info?
"This year there'll be a compact Xperia. No, really this time" - someone, every year.
[ This Message was edited by: amardeep on 2022-11-24 19:07 ]
Posted by McKinley
When it comes to Sony's prerecorded presentations. I sincerely hope these stiff people at Sony soften up and get more energetic. I almost find it sad to watch them doing presentation of good products but with zero enthusiasm.
Posted by cool_sauce
On 2022-11-24 12:33:54, Hawk12 wrote:
Let's list fake info on weibo about 2023 lineup: 7" screen, LTPO, exmor larger than 1.0 type, ceramic type back, 60% better cooling.
Has anyone found more fake info?
Variable refresh rate could be true if we follow the pattern of display upgrades. First it was all about 4K, then it was about 4K 120Hz, after it came brighter 4k 120Hz and now its the time for brighter 4K variable refresh rate 120Hz. So like after five years we finally got the complete display from Sony while others had it two years ago.
I really don't understand how Sony executives fail to see that Xperia flagship phone could have been their flagship product for the entire company. Xperia 1 or Xperia PRO could be a product where all major Sony technologies could be combined into one piece. It would be a showcase product for BRAVIA OLED/miniLED technology, for BRAVIA video image processing, Walkman software audio processing, Playstation 5 controller revolutionary haptics, Alpha camera flagship features, PXW/ILME features.
Posted by Hawk12
As spek has said before, some sacrifices are made to keep BoM not too high. Obviously sony can do more, but to earn some money, then we would see 1 series as expensive as pro-i , may not be able to sell enough to recover money. Imagine if 1 256GB was $1700 and 5 128GB was $1300 for example.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2022-11-25 13:26:27, Hawk12 wrote:
As spek has said before, some sacrifices are made to keep BoM not too high. Obviously sony can do more, but to earn some money, then we would see 1 series as expensive as pro-i , may not be able to sell enough to recover money. Imagine if 1 256GB was $1700 and 5 128GB was $1300 for example.
Sony needs to come to terms with:
manufacturing yield numbers - increase.
increase marketing of the product, 1 series, not just the brand. Maybe even include PlayStation and have software or services tied in - just even market heavily so more consumers are made aware.
Then ship to more countries, make BIG partnerships with carriers back again!
Example Xperia 5 we had Rogers and Bell in Canada, AT&T and Verizon in USA>
That will help revenue's and profits increase, thus far for R&D costs.
Posted by spektykles
Something's interesting
BOE just start producing a panel for a customer, "4K" 6.95 inch panel with latest Q9 material, no punch hole, dynamic refresh rate (street rumor said up to 240Hz
)Might be even using the same special 8 Gen 2 that Samsung planned to use on S23
IMX989 on Xperia
Take this with a huge amount of salt
I dont have personal access of upcoming Xperia anymore, this is based on my trusted "friends"
Posted by Hawk12
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-gen-2-for-galaxy-s23_id143925
😒, we do not want this crap.
Os it true 8g2 supports up to 5120 x 2160 240Hz screen?
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2022-11-27 09:58 ]
Posted by tai020381
On 2022-11-26 15:26:07, Hawk12 wrote:
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]-gen-2-for-galaxy-s23_id143925
😒, we do not want this crap.
Os it true 8g2 supports up to 5120 x 2160 240Hz screen?
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2022-11-27 09:58 ]
I think they are just trying to come up with a reason to please the higher management . Cook some news to coast their state of the art and "better" than TSMC fabrication and make some news to boast and distract a little hahahahahahaha
Posted by Hawk12
Someone posted somewhere this:
Snapdragon (tsmc) : 8550ab
Snapdragon (sammy semicon) : 8550ac
"designed for deviced with unique capabilities, for sensors with Dram unlocking feature beyond speed like 8K@60. For display sony might use it for native 4K@120."
Posted by xpr
https://www.phonearena.com/ne[....]15-camera-sony-sensor_id143953
Hooe we'll see it in the upcoming Xperia as well.
Posted by Hawk12
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=15157
Place your bets:
A) " Xperia Flip"
B) " Play 2"
C) 5,5" version of 5 v
D) none of the above
Posted by tai020381
On 2022-12-02 16:52:01, Hawk12 wrote:
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=15157
Place your bets:
A) " Xperia Flip"
B) " Play 2"
C) 5,5" version of 5 v
D) none of the above
D. There's rumor of 6.9 display . SO probably ultra series is back . Perhaps 8 series?
[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2022-12-03 00:50 ]
Posted by goldenface
D:
Posted by Hawk12
Or maybe the 6,9-7" is just 1 v ...
If phone is getting larger, then the 70-200mm could be true. More space needed.
Posted by RacSony
I'm aware it's unlikely but theoritically is it doable?
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=15164
Posted by goldenface
Almost 9 x Optical Zoom would be very good.
Posted by Hawk12
They did not translate well, at least chrome built-in translator says Semicon wishes to sell this. Does not say anything of xperia. Also, makes zero sense to make super wide go 26mm with optical zoom if at 26mm you can use primary camera. Would make sense if it was for example 13-20mm.
Posted by Bob_Joker_01
XQ-DC72 and it's sample photo spotted
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=15180
Posted by Hawk12
Larger sensor has higher base ISO. Pro-i does not shoot below iso100. You see there 64, can mean two things:
A) it is fake and belongs to mark4
B) it belongs to mark 5 , but it is still 1/1.65"
Posted by xpr
On 2022-12-05 10:25:19, Hawk12 wrote:
Larger sensor has higher base ISO. Pro-i does not shoot below iso100. You see there 64, can mean two things:
A) it is fake and belongs to mark4
B) it belongs to mark 5 , but it is still 1/1.65"
Nikon has ISO 64 in a full frame (Sony) sensor. So if this is a new sensor, it isn't technically impossible.
[ This Message was edited by: xpr on 2022-12-05 10:13 ]
Posted by Hawk12
Extended ISO, phones cant do it. Basically fake iso.
Look at new iphone pro , often uses 80 and 100 in daylight when previous models use much lower like 24-40.
Posted by spektykles
On 2022-12-05 04:02:00, Bob_Joker_01 wrote:
XQ-DC72 and it's sample photo spotted
https://sumahodigest.com/?p=15180
I can assure you its not true
the owner of that pic is fat-fingered and made a typo, should be BC72 not DC72 [ This Message was edited by: spektykles on 2022-12-06 18:02 ]
Posted by xpr
On 2022-12-05 12:35:21, Hawk12 wrote:
Extended ISO, phones cant do it. Basically fake iso.
Look at new iphone pro , often uses 80 and 100 in daylight when previous models use much lower like 24-40.
I believe this is the base ISO of Nikon Z7ii
Posted by spektykles
Have my dirty hands on some prototype new machine
Posted by Hawk12
Looks ultra thick. Like those rugged phones with 10.000 mAh battery.
Posted by tai020381
On 2022-12-10 20:07:36, spektykles wrote:
Have my dirty hands on some prototype new machine
Are they trying to optimize the reception ?
Posted by supercoolman
I had pretty much gave up on xperia lines due to the stupid 4G/5G network band limitation. why can't sony just include all the bands like motorola or pixel? global/roaming phone no longer works if you travel between asia, europe and na is quite a joke. on the old xperia we can at least root it and force enable all network bands hw can do, but newer xperia seemed to have removed that capability
Posted by Hawk12
Not even chinese phones that sell much more have all bands used on Earth. This is not cheap.
Posted by RacSony
So spektykles, how did the prototype look like?
Posted by goldenface
On 2022-12-12 18:09:28, RacSony wrote:
So spektykles, how did the prototype look like?
Ha ha. As if he'll let you know.
Posted by Supa_Fly
Hey everyone.
May not be big news or Xperia focused but ...
https://www.gsmarena.com/appl[....]for_its_iphones-news-56855.php
Everyone in the smartphone industry knows that Apple keeps a tight lid on its suppliers and a lot the more technical specs of its products, so Tim Cook's visit to Sony's facility for CMOS sensors is kind of a big deal.
Analysts and fans have been suspecting this for a while now and Tim Cook finally admitted that Apple has been working with Sony for over a decade. Apple's CEO posted a photo of Sony's CEO Kenichiro Yoshida showing him around a Sony facility.
Sony is working on a new sensor using semiconductor technologies, letting more light in and reducing the possibility of under or overexposure.
Analysts and fans have been suspecting this for a while now and Tim Cook finally admitted that Apple has been working with Sony for over a decade. Apple's CEO posted a photo of Sony's CEO Kenichiro Yoshida showing him around a Sony facility.
Sony is working on a new sensor using semiconductor technologies, letting more light in and reducing the possibility of under or overexposure.
Sony's CEO Kenichiro Yoshida showing Tim Cook around a Sony facility
So something regarding camera sensor may be relevant in this thread for future Xperia phones.
Posted by tai020381
Lytia copyright version soon??
Posted by Hawk12
That new sony sensor type, where first layer is split into two leaving first just for pixels. Some ppl be,ieve iphone 15 series is gonna have it.
Something that should be used for 1m5 but I doubt it's here.
Xperia should have this + starvis + polar sense.
Posted by supercoolman
Not even chinese phones that sell much more have all bands used on Earth. This is not cheap.
Sony may have save some money such that 1m4, which was released first, has more bands than 5m4.
comparing to this year's pixel and moto, which are cheaper than xperia, support more bands than xperia. this means sony is selling less band for higher price. not to mention sony's official tech support outside of asia are also pretty useless from the experience. I feel buying sony phones these days are just getting ripoff
Posted by spektykles
On 2022-12-12 18:09:28, RacSony wrote:
So spektykles, how did the prototype look like?
Frankly, its boring. Not much changed from the old one
I have decided not to publish it to give Sony a chance to fix, because posting it now will cause mass exodus of fans because of the disappointment
About network bands, it is common practice in the mobile industry to cut down the number of bands to save money, either from hardware design, testing or certification. Also the pressure from carriers to keep carrier-locked phone from working on competitors (however this is forbidden now, atleast in JP afaik). You can make a truly "global" phone with all the bands and CA combos to run every network in the world, but that would be fairly expensive. Apple and some others can do that because they dont afraid to cut some money off the margins.
The current champion of "global" phone is iPhone US models (global ver have some downgrade in CA combos) and OnePlus 10T, they support everything out there.
I still keep mine modded (unlocked bands,etc...) Xperia XZs and XZP global ver dual sim for occasional travelling, especially places like JP. Also I am the "author" of the band unlocking method circulated the internet in the past
Posted by Hawk12
I do not remember if it is iphone 12 or 13 series that would not work properly here (bands) to force ppl buy local iphones that cost 100%. Many buy abroad (usually in Miami) because price difference.
Should I believe the possibility 557 is not going away?
Posted by tai020381
I guess 12mp is still here to stay for xperia1 v. Hoping they include lytia into this one .