Posted by doministry
So what do you guys think?
I seriously don't understand this move.
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/p[....]tawia-nowy-smartfon-xperia-z3/
Sorry I started this topic in such unimpressive way, just wanted to ask.
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London, 26th May 2015 – Sony Mobile Communications (“Sony Mobile”) today introduces a premium addition to the Xperia™ Z3 series flagship smartphones with Xperia Z3+, a slim, sleek and stylish high-performing premium smartphone.
Xperia Z3+ helps you get the best pictures with Sony’s superior camera technology that is now packed into both the main and front cameras. Impressive smartphone battery stamina and performance keeps you connected faster and longer, whether for work or play. And Sony’s unique signature waterproof1 design ensures you can do it, whatever the weather.
Beautiful design, better than ever
Slimmer (6.9mm), lighter (144g) and expertly crafted, Xperia Z3+ continues the Sony design story with discreet, but impressive improvements. Not only is it waterproof and dust-tight (IP65/68) ideal for use in all situations, as a further design refinement Z3+ features a capless USB port making it easier and more convenient to charge your phone. In addition the magnetic charging pin has been removed, resulting in an overall more seamless and minimalist design. With a shiny finish on the metal frames, tempered glass and rounded edges, Xperia Z3+ is beautiful to look at from any angle and comfortable to hold.
Z3+ comes available in a choice of four sophisticated colour options to meet your individual taste and style – classic Black and White are joined by a new interpretation of Copper and Aqua Green.
Great pictures anywhere
Z3+ continues to offer the best of Sony’s Cyber-shot & Handycam technologies, to ensure a superior camera performance, and extends the camera evolution not just to the main camera, but the front camera too. Now you can enjoy superior photos, even in low light, with both the front and rear camera. From sceneries to selfies, capture the best shots in any light.
The main camera features the 20.7MP camera with Exmor RS™ for mobile image sensor, BIONZ™ for mobile processing engine, and a 25mm wide-angle G lens. Create the best shots first time, every time with improved Superior Auto – it automatically optimises settings to give you the best possible picture and can recognize up to 52 different scenes. And with new Gourmet mode, even your food pictures will be looking their very best. Add some fun and creativity to your photos with the latest Xperia camera apps including Style portrait and AR mask. Capture impressive detail even in low light conditions, thanks to the ISO12800 sensitivity and large 1/ 2.3 image sensor. Get great shots even when there is strong backlight, with HDR for photos and videos. Preserve and enjoy your precious moments in high quality with 4K video recording and output.
The new 5MP front camera with Exmor R™ for mobile image sensor means you can now get better selfies in any light. And the 25mm wide-angle lens is perfect for group selfies. Superior Auto analyses the photographic environment and automatically adjusts settings to make you look great every time. Full HD 1080p is ideal for video chat and when you are shooting selfie videos, SteadyShot™ with Intelligent Active Mode estimates movements to produce smoother videos.
Powerful performance and up to two-day battery life
Xperia Z3+ comes packed with the ultra fast Snapdragon 810 octa-core 64 bit processor2 that lets you browse faster than ever and get the optimal graphics experience. Whether you’re multi-tasking over Wi-Fi or the latest 4G network, Xperia Z3+ delivers the speed you need. LTE Cat 6 and Wi-Fi MIMO support enable faster connection speeds for a rich, connected experience with up to 300 Mbps LTE data download speeds on the move (actual speed may differ according to operator networks) 3. Download email with attachments in seconds and enjoy video streaming with no delays or unwanted buffering.
Powerful smartphone features demand smart power management. Xperia Z3+ is equipped to let you enjoy whatever you like doing for as long as you want. Sony’s incredible up to two-day battery stamina and innovative power-saving technology combine to give you superior long-lasting battery performance. And now you can get one day usage with just 45 minutes of charging when using a Qualcomm® Quick Charge™ 2.0 certified charger, such as the UCH10 (Single SIM variant only).
Keeping you entertained
Xperia Z3+ features an ultra-bright 5.2” Full HD smart adaptive display that provides increased brightness and contrast, without losing stamina. Sony’s TRILUMINOS™ Display for mobile with Live Colour LED and X-Reality for mobile ensure sharper and more vivid colours. Intuitive contrast enhancement delivers the most optimized viewing experience, even in bright sunlight.
Sony’s rich expertise in audio technologies lets you enjoy sound in incredible detail and clarity. High-Res Audio reproduces high frequency sound for a studio quality experience. DSEE HXTM upscales the audio fidelity of your existing MP3 or AAC tracks to near High-Res Audio quality. And for high quality wireless music listening, Sony’s new LDACTM codec transmits data three times more efficiently than legacy codec over Bluetooth.
For those times when you need to block out background noise, Xperia Z3+ supports digital noise cancelling and pairs with the MDR-NC31EM headset, reducing ambient noise by up to 98%. And now you can enjoy optimal audio settings when connecting any headphones, as Z3+ senses both the type and style of headset and automatically adjusts the audio settings accordingly for best sound experience.
Keep playing your favourite PlayStation®4 (PS4™) games wherever you are in the home with PS4 Remote Play2. Simply connect your Xperia Z3+ to your PS4 via home Wi-Fi and use the DUALSHOCK®4 Wireless Controller to ensure you never miss a minute of the action – whatever room you are in.
And to ensure you continue to enjoy the best experiences that Sony has to offer, all Xperia Z3+ users will benefit from access to Xperia Lounge Gold – delivering the world of Sony entertainment at your fingertips. Get access to exclusive competitions and offers; be among the first to try out new apps; and enjoy the latest movies, TV episodes and music included with your device.
Availability and specifications
Z3+ colour range embedXperia Z3+ will launch globally from June 2015 in both Single SIM and Dual SIM3 variants. For the full specifications of Xperia Z3+, please visit:
www.sonymobile.com/global-en/[....]/xperia-z3-plus/specifications
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Posted by goldenface
It's not a major upgrade to the Z3, just a faster processor and a few other minor improvements. From a business sense it's a way of keeping up Z3 sales. The Z3 is still a great phone.
Personally, I'll be holding out for the next compact.
Posted by doministry
I just wonder now what to do.
Maybe stay with Z2 for longer?
I love to change the phone every year.
Z3+ has a great advantage - 5mpx front Cam.
Even better processor...
I wait for reviews.
Posted by alexander87
On 2015-05-26 13:35:13, doministry wrote:
I just wonder now what to do.
Maybe stay with Z2 for longer?
I love to change the phone every year.
Z3+ has a great advantage - 5mpx front Cam.
Even better processor...
I wait for reviews.
I'm in the same situation and I'm pretty much in for the Z3+.
The ONLY thing keeping me from doing it immediately is the SD810, I will wait for reviews to land and talk about the possible overheating/throttling of the processor.
Posted by DentyCracker
If my Z3 hadn't been replaced under warranty with a Z3Dual I would have got this for sure. This somewhat like the Arc/Arc S but a little more. It would be interesting to see if SA mode has been improved
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Deja vu...with a smaller battery and power hungry chip.
Posted by tranced
Ha! It made me smile
On 2015-05-26 14:38:08, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Deja vu...with a smaller battery and power hungry chip.
Posted by ascariss
The device will cost 3000zl (723 euros) when it launches here in Poland in the 2nd half of June. This is around 600-800zl (144-192 euros) cheaper than the current Z3, depending on retailer. Sure it brings in a new Sd810, slightly thinner, new 5MP front cam, quick charge and 32gigs of memory, but then is this worth the extra money? For me no, this is not worth it. I am not sure if the SD810 in the device is from some new batch or still the current line with the overheating and throttling. I don't take selfies, so front cam does not matter, the 32GB is great but it should have been standard long ago. Will mention the exposed usb, this should have been done on the z3, and z2 but no.
The main issue still remains, same sensor and camera, don't think much has gone into changing the algorithm, so doubt the image quality has improved leaps and bounds.
Ok effort but nothing spectacular but we already knew that.
Hopefully IFA does not disappoint and Sony brings a true flagship but then Sony has not been able to bring anything wow to the market since who knows when, so perhaps IFA will flop as well.
Posted by Luca-S
I would like to know if this version is the same present in Xiaomi Mi Note Pro...
If yes, it will be fine.
Posted by doministry
And I actually feel tempted.
I mean I have a Z2 for over a year now.
Almost perfect phone. But I want upgrade as a little geek...
What is tempting about Z3+ is the better chip and much improved 5mpx in front.
I am taking selfies or rather Snapchat them
As let's say public person I am I need to
It's also beautiful...
I wait for reviews first though.
And also, I really want to know if Sony is planning another "full" flagship this year..
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2015-05-26 14:45 ]
Posted by goldenface
On 2015-05-26 14:38:08, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Deja vu...with a smaller battery and power hungry chip.
Ha ha. Although, I wouldn't really say battery life is an issue smaller or otherwise.
Posted by McKinley
Finally my wait is over, I can replace my Galaxy Note 3 and my broken Z3 with the new Z3+.
I like the aqua green colour.
Posted by amirprog
Good small competitive update. nice sony. as expected, no surprise but not a bad thing at all. actually, it is good and refreshing for marketing and international consumers point of view. no more number change and big buzz every half a year and possibly z3+ should be the last half a year update if reliable sources are right. go sony.
Posted by McKinley
I just feel that the Xperia Z3+ will trail slightly behind the Galaxy S6 and LG G4 as far as camera ability goes.
Let's hope they have arsed themselves to further optimise the image quality.
Posted by progosu
any camera samples?
Posted by goldenface
I like the natural colours of the Xperia cams. I know we have been arguing about this on Esato for decades but who really looks at photos up close to examine pixels in ultra minute detail?
I certainly don't.
Posted by josephnero
@goldenface
Agreed
Posted by Gitaroo
battery is downgraded, but definitely not as bad as I thought.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/s[....].php?p=165257319&postcount=251
Code:
Z2
3200 mAh minimum
Talk time: up to 19 hours***
Standby time: up to 740 hours***
Music listening time: Up to 120 hours***
Video playback time: Up to 10 hours***
Z3
3100 mAh
Talk time: up to 16 hours***
Standby time: up to 920 hours***
Music listening time: up to 130 hours***
Video playback time: up to 10 hours***
Z3+
2930 mAh
Talk time: up to 17 hours
Standby time: up to 590 hours
Music listening: Up to 91 hours
Video playback: Up to 580 min
Music playback is shorter than before, could it be that it has a dedicated AMP now? Now I am more curious to see how Sony deal with the performance throttling of s810. Consider the Z3+ waterproofing means it seal tight, it will be much harder to solve than other devices unless Qualcomm really tweak the hardware itself.
Posted by McKinley
I am impressed they managed to get almost 10 hours of video playback with a smaller battery.
What I would want to know is how many hours of web surfing you can get.
About the Snapdragon 810. Is it possible this is a later revision of the SoC itself with a lot of the quirks sorted?
I actually feel excited to get the Xperia Z3+.
[ This Message was edited by: McKinley on 2015-05-27 05:08 ]
Posted by doministry
So the difference between Z2 and Z3+ in battery size is significant.
Yes it's a good question - how much the smaller battery and new SoC will change
the screen usage time, browsing and things like Maps.
I am sooooooo happy with Z2 in this regard.
Posted by Xajel
It's open for pre-order in Clove.co.uk for GBP 549 including vat, or GBP 457 without
http://www.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z3-plus
This equals to $842 and $701
Posted by josephnero
Good overview and some comparsions
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobi[....]01/1/rv/sony-xperia-z3-review/
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sony-xperia-z3-plus-fl.shtml
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2015-05-27 17:55 ]
Posted by doministry
Nice video here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/btekt/videos
Posted by emerson_shei
On 2015-05-28 01:54:38, doministry wrote:
Nice video here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/btekt/videos
Manual Focus, Manual ISO And Mainly Manual Shutter Speed... Great, Great News
It Seems That Sony Mobile Is Waking Up, Take Them Back To Have Photographic Excellence Of Yore
Xperia Z3+ More Than Approved
Posted by emerson_shei
Selfie Camera Comparison: Sony Xperia Z3+ Vs LG G4 Vs Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge Vs Apple iPhone 6 Plus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F22Y17VQNQI
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Snapdragon 810 not doing that great in the Z3+
First Sony Xperia Z3+ benchmarks crop up, flagship posts unimpressive results
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]s-unimpressive-results_id69762
Posted by alexander87
On 2015-05-28 14:59:02, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Snapdragon 810 not doing that great in the Z3+
First Sony Xperia Z3+ benchmarks crop up, flagship posts unimpressive results
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]s-unimpressive-results_id69762
Hey man, we're grown up people here, that realise the fact that benchmarks mean nothing for day to day usage.
I'd like a nice comparison with S6 and z3+ put under heavy load in gaming, app loading, 4G traffic, and see if throttling occurs.
try harder...
Posted by josephnero
This is expected actually.Wait for GPU tests.graphics is the only strong point of 810
Even brighter screen than Z3.wow
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]hows-a-brighter-warmer-screen/
[ This Message was edited by: josephnero on 2015-05-28 15:55 ]
Posted by badassmam
Where I work we have scientists and clinicians. Scientists will look at 'benchmarks' all day and night and clinicians will ask, 'how will that help my patient?'. If a patient has a tumour you could blast him with chemotherapy, radiation and photon beams altogether to cure him but that is overkill. A good Doctor may just give him chemo and send him home tumour free and happy. People get hung up over benchmarks all the time. Its not important. SD801, 805, 808, 810, Exynos all run Angry Birds the same so what does it matter? Apple has shown for the last 10 years that it doesn't matter, user experience is the key.
When you mention Galaxy S6, some people say that its the 'best phone' but the next comment is about battery life or no SD card slot. Talking about the G4, the first thing people say is great camera features or mention leather on the back. Nobody mentions SD808. With Sony its the 'same design' or 'just a minor upgrade'. What else? Nothing. Spend two minutes with the copper Z3+ and all this about the SD810 is forgotten, there is nothing prettier than that phone.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2015-05-28 15:27:09, alexander87 wrote:
On 2015-05-28 14:59:02, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Snapdragon 810 not doing that great in the Z3+
First Sony Xperia Z3+ benchmarks crop up, flagship posts unimpressive results
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]s-unimpressive-results_id69762
Hey man, we're grown up people here, that realise the fact that benchmarks mean nothing for day to day usage.
I'd like a nice comparison with S6 and z3+ put under heavy load in gaming, app loading, 4G traffic, and see if throttling occurs.
try harder...
All good man
As no matter how you try slice it the benchmarks are showing a CPU that is aggresively throttling performance. Do you not find it strange that the Z3+ despite using the Snapdragon 810 is getting worse results than the Htc M9 (with same CPU), a phone that is said to throttle even during little tasks. I remember seeing a similar reaction when the M9 results came out "benchmarks don't mean anything etc..." then the phone arrived and its performance reflected the very poor results it got in benchmarks.
The fact that the M9 with the same CPU and Nexus 6 with older CPU get better results is worrying, and its not just one benchmark, it is multiple.
What I do find interesting is you further ignore the fact that the phone reached a temp of 40°c, which is quite high.
Anyway, the Xperia Z3+ to me was just another example of the Snapdragon 810's failure, all I was waiting to see was if Sony threw in the updated version that people were talking about in the Rumours thread, seems not. Ah well. Roll-on IFA.
Posted by doministry
Manual settings support seems great to me.
And I will get it. I will actually sell my Z2 plus the other phone I'll get with my new contract.
So I won't spend a penny out of my pocket...
I wait for battery life tests and camera tests though.
And the design is perfect.
Posted by emerson_shei
Sony Xperia Z3+ Preview: First Look By GSMARENA
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_plus-review-1257.php
Posted by emerson_shei
On 2015-05-29 20:12:47, emerson_shei wrote:
Sony Xperia Z3+ Preview: First Look By GSMARENA
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_plus-review-1257.php
Judging by the first comparisons, it is indisputable that the camera Xperia Z3 has a better performance than the camera Xperia Z3 Plus !
JPEG files Z3+ has higher compression and smoother in the corners !!
Hopefully the final version of the software, Sony Mobile Fix It !!!
Posted by Gitaroo
front facing camera is very good imo, rest I can't even tell which one is which.
Posted by Faisal2215
LG & Samsung are improving their cameras, Sony is making theirs worse. What the f**k is Sony doing?
Z3+ is only better in white balance, but in terms of details the Z3 is better by quite a margin. Z3+ is applying stronger noise reduction that obliterates fine low contrast details while Z3's noise reduction isn't as strong so its images are a bit noisier but preserves more details.
This seem to confirm my feelings when I saw the Z3+ leaked camera sample, I thought Z3 & Z2 has better quality than this. Gosh, i'm reminded of my old Xperia Z when I see Z3+ image quality
Good God Sony -___-"
[ This Message was edited by: Faisal2215 on 2015-05-30 03:55 ]
Posted by Ricky D
The dual-SIM variant is the first from Sony to support both FDD-LTE and TD-LTE.
Makes me want.
Posted by doministry
On 2015-05-30 04:53:53, Faisal2215 wrote:
LG & Samsung are improving their cameras, Sony is making theirs worse. What the f**k is Sony doing?
Z3+ is only better in white balance, but in terms of details the Z3 is better by quite a margin. Z3+ is applying stronger noise reduction that obliterates fine low contrast details while Z3's noise reduction isn't as strong so its images are a bit noisier but preserves more details.
This seem to confirm my feelings when I saw the Z3+ leaked camera sample, I thought Z3 & Z2 has better quality than this. Gosh, i'm reminded of my old Xperia Z when I see Z3+ image quality
Good God Sony -___-"
[ This Message was edited by: Faisal2215 on 2015-05-30 03:55 ]
Where did you take these comparisons from?
They're are not on the preview...
I wouldn't jump into such conclusions yet.
Edit:
Ups, sorry, it's there.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2015-05-30 11:34 ]
Posted by Gitaroo
that also show that how good Z3 is, IMO Z3 is very good, no worse than G4 or S6 etc. LG and Samsung has very obvious imagine processing going to reduce noise and everything looks smudged when zoomed in.
Posted by Faisal2215
@gitaroo indeed Z3 is very good. No one in the right mind will say it's bad. But I would say the best camera in Xperia goes to Z2. Not because of image processing but because of the lens, when you have a wider angle lens you capture much more in one sceme but image perspective is very zoomed out and as a result, you lose details.
I have both Z2 & Z3 with me and Z2 is better in every ISO range. Post processing wise, both are the same except that Z3 has colder photos all the time. But again it's the lens FoV that caused difference in details. Z2 takes narrower photos with more details whereas Z3 capture so much albeit with less details
See this, my personal work: https://drive.google.com/fold[....]xbzy4iULR-UWRIM1VfTFlrcjA/edit
People blamed Xperia camera for using aggresive noise reduction, but I can prove that's not the case. As a matter of fact, there are many phones aout there that has more pronounced painting effect than Sony (iphone 6/+, galaxy note 4, galaxy s5, and even lumia 930)
Posted by zxcorr
Did you guys see the speakers test video from Btekt on YouTube?
It's worse than Z3 by far. What a disappointment.
Posted by kurtdean
On 2015-05-31 13:35:04, zxcorr wrote:
Did you guys see the speakers test video from Btekt on YouTube?
It's worse than Z3 by far. What a disappointment.
Sacrificed performance for aesthetic
Posted by doministry
And I agree.
I also have Z2 and used consciously it gives amazing results and quite opposite to the ones claimed by critics.
For the speakers on Z3+ - they are still good I would say.
They're still better probably than Z2 which is also very ok, let's not get crazy here.
I will wait with the final camera judgement for the release units, prototypes are different.
Plus remember! Z2 had it's own problems after release and than they created a masterpiece out of it.
After many incremental updates.
I love the Z3+ design. It's marvellous.
I also want to see the battery tests.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2015-05-31 15:58 ]
Posted by yuunanase
On 2015-05-30 05:27:43, Ricky D wrote:
The dual-SIM variant is the first from Sony to support both FDD-LTE and TD-LTE.
Makes me want.
I notice this as well. Just like Z3 dual TD. One thing to keep in mind, dual varient has an older firmware, no support for volte and does not use LTE-A networks.
Posted by Gitaroo
new camera samples
http://www.xperiablog.net/201[....]e-pictures-from-the-xperia-z4/
looks pretty good if you ask me.
Posted by doministry
Z4 though. Who knows if it's the same as Z2+.
Posted by Gitaroo
I would bet they are the same.
Posted by Ranjith
Glad they dint call it Z4. If the SD810 is as bad as people say, then I'm glad SONY dint go for an all new Z4. But I hope they do bring major changes with a new chip fro the Z4.
Posted by Luca-S
The details are incredibly good.
A bit overexposed to me but i always use manual mode.
I'll back to Sony again!
Posted by Gitaroo
especially with no obvious image processing like everybody else, even more impressive.
Posted by emerson_shei
Sony Xperia Z3+ Vs HTC One M9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8gMEzLde7Q