Posted by Bonovox
The International Data Corporation (IDC) revealed in recent figures that Nokia has lost its spot as Finland’s top mobile phone seller. Samsung has pulled into first place with its 36.1% market share, while Nokia currently sits in second place with 33.6%. Last year, Nokia controlled a strong 48% compared to Samsung’s 28%.
A research director at the IDC sat down with The Wall Street Journal to discuss the astonishing market drop for Nokia; the company stated that Nokia’s sales are almost a 50/50 split of smartphones and “dumbphones”. This data is in contrast to Samsung who pushes smartphones at a unit rate of 80%.
It should be noted that Nokia is introducing low priced phones such as the Asha 501 that draw a thin line between smartphones and their lesser counterparts; this might cause some confusion as to recent smartphone statistics for Nokia.
Despite Nokia losing their own domestic market, the company did have record breaking sales for its Lumia smartphones in Q1; the company’s Windows Phones are picking up sales in European markets, but struggling in the US market.
Do you think this is a devastating loss for Nokia or just a hiccup?
http://www.wpcentral.com/noki[....]top-dog-finland-samsung-smiles
Posted by Tsepz_GP
That is pretty incredible, I'm surprised as I thought the Fins would be loyal to Nokia but at the same time I guess it was bound to happen with Samsung's aggressive push globally.
Posted by admad
Fins would be loyal to real Nokia, not this Microsoft-Nokia crappy partnership
Posted by S4k1s
This is what you get for selling your HQ and closing your domestic factories.
Posted by Bonovox
@admad so you reckon Finnish people are still buying Symbian or Asha phones?? As for Windows phone it's been brilliant IMO with cracking phones from Nokia. The problem is Microsoft who are so laid back they would fall off their office chairs. Nokia has made WP what it is and made it to 3rd place. Nokia is doing all the work lately sorting problems out unlike MS. I have not seen a drop in quality since Nokia phone were made in China. Their factories in Finland,Germany and Hungary were only sold due to having to make cuts like many other manufacturers have had to. WP is growing though not as fast as they'd like but it's is growing
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2013-05-29 22:28 ]
Posted by admad
Well yeah, Nokia is the only reason why Windows Phone is still in market, but it's pulling Nokia down real hard. Windows Phone is a fail, no matter how You look at it. It might be getting better, but it's still limited after 3 years of market presence, not to mention its roots go back to 2003.
Posted by Supa_Fly
On 2013-05-29 22:06:48, admad wrote:
Fins would be loyal to real Nokia, not this Microsoft-Nokia crappy partnership
Last year I'd agree with you 100% but I'm not sure that even Symbian, real powerful Symbian S60 phones are made by Nokia any longer (nothing really new)?? I know they would if the OS was evolved just a bit more with more powerful apps to go with it.
On 2013-05-30 01:04:11, admad wrote:
Well yeah, Nokia is the only reason why Windows Phone is still in market, but it's pulling Nokia down real hard. Windows Phone is a fail, no matter how You look at it. It might be getting better, but it's still limited after 3 years of market presence, not to mention its roots go back to 2003.
INDEED! However I personally feel that its not Microsoft as a whole ... but Balmer, Biofore and a few others that are so damn FAT (financially) and SLOW (designing, implementation, evolving the OS, and taking fresh new design teams) to advance Windows Phone.
I'd like to see Nokia, or even Microsoft license the BB10 kernel (QNX) and then mold it to their own infrastructure, strengths in Office/Windows/365 Office and come up with something VERY powerful and versatile. Microsoft wasted 2 yrs to evolve from single CPU's - and yet the OS on WP7/7.1 was SLoooow on that architecture - to evolve into dual cpu's.
Balmer ... NEEDS ... TO ... GO! Or take a back chair and let someone else be the front man/scapegoat.
Posted by Bonovox
I think so does Elop. Have noticed on some videos the 808 model saying Made in China on some. Made me think why didn't Elop appear at the recent launch of the Lumia 925??
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Posted by alenn
Nokia already damaged what could be damaged.
To fire so many people...It's just ridicolous.
Posted by Bonovox
Huh,and this happened also with Sony etc and some others not just Nokia
Posted by alenn
But why made in China?
The quality may be good but nothing is made in Finland anymore.
[ This Message was edited by: alenn on 2013-06-01 16:49 ]
Posted by titus1
There were times people are looking for a Finland-made Nokias. For they thought the ones made in China are copy-cats.
Posted by Bonovox
Because like all other manufacturers they wanted to save money,cheaper labour costs. They all do it now,Sony,Apple etc. Samsung top phones are made in Korea but some of their budget ones are from China.
Posted by itsjustJOH
On 2013-05-30 03:36:00, Bonovox wrote:
I think so does Elop. Have noticed on some videos the 808 model saying Made in China on some. Made me think why didn't Elop appear at the recent launch of the Lumia 925??
Elop is but a puppet. And a stupid one, too. He said that the reason the company chose Windows Phone is to be distinct in the market dominated by the Android OS. Even when Nokia was on a very bad status when he first stepped in, he took the chance to have a mobile phone company be "unique". Yeah, they did get what they wanted, and Nokia is gaining more because of the Lumias, but is it enough to bring them back to the top? Slowly but surely, their fanbase is starting to grow back, but how long till WP gets enough traction to overtake Android? If they went for Google's instead, they would have made the same "unique" distinction among other OEMs because of their focus on improving mobile phone cameras. They could have retained the look of Symbian that everyone loved but with much more functionality now. Their software team was the best in handling updates and their customer support is awesome. They would have a lot more support from independent developers from the Android world, too. They would have made much more money, and that could have made them grow much faster.
Posted by alenn
Nokia could have gone with Meego.
That's kinda logic and Nokia didn't do it.
Nuff said
Posted by Bonovox
Well there ain't no use dwelling on what could have been now. I still love Nokia
Posted by alenn
Damn right you are
I do too.
Posted by Bonovox
I got the Lumia 720 today great device
Posted by alenn
I wish I could afford it.
Oh look my 200th post!
Posted by Bonovox
http://www.wpcentral.com/micr[....]re-will-focus-devices-services
MS to restructure
Posted by alenn
A nice thing to do from Microsoft but they are maybe a little late...
Posted by Bonovox
Yeah not sure i bothered recently with Android. I go back to it and hate it
Posted by alenn
It's only good for apps and games but we have that in iOS..
It's too slow and cumbersome and counter-intuitive..
I think that a Lumia will be my next smartphone.
(my main one at least)
Posted by Bonovox
We put up our new parasol on our patio today as the last one was destroyed in strong winds when we forgot to collapse it down
It's pleasant to sit in the garden now and listen to tunes on my Lumia and do other stuff.
Posted by alenn
Yes I like when I can listen to songs on my phone while doing some work in the backyard. (it is actually a hill behind my house
)