Posted by laffen
HTC today announced its new flagship smartphone with the HTC One. A 1.7 GHz quad-core model with a 4.7-inch Full HD display, Beats Audio and 4 megapixel camera
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Posted by admad
Hmmm weird move with only 4 megapixel camera. It has to be really good, I'm looking forward for some samples.
Posted by brunosr23
Amazing.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Incredible stuff by HTC, sounds like they've gone all out, and its being released soon after announcement, shows that they are serious unlike some other OEMs.
So thats the 1st major Android flagship outed, now we have to just see what LG and Samsung bring in the Optimus G Pro and GS4 respectively.
Posted by admad
First photos from this phone, two words, not impressed.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/here[....]the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/
Posted by rickster2kuk
Agree with you. I know they are indoors but they certainly aren't anything special.
Posted by cu015170
On 2013-02-19 20:44:12, admad wrote:
First photos from this phone, two words, not impressed.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/here[....]the-htc-one-ultrapixel-camera/
That type of sensor would not perform well if you need to use higher ISO setting, which is what was required for those samples.. it should shine outdoors when the sun is out
Let's hope that HTC managed to put decent optics on there and the jpeg processing is on par.. otherwise that sensor would go to waste.
Posted by etaab
Stereo speakers on a flagship again ? About time !
Lets face it, we all want to say it, its better than the Xperia Z.
Better benchmark scores with a better up to date chipset, better skin in Sense, intriguing camera and it'll still be getting up to date updates more often after Sony give up on their device.
Oh and well done HTC on not feeling it necessary to go crazy with increasing the screen size. Anything more than 5" is too big now.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-02-19 23:04 ]
Posted by Bonovox
The recent HTC Butterfly got a decent 45 hours battery time in GSM Arena tests. I say this as it's a recent similar device
Posted by reeflotz
On 2013-02-20 00:02:57, etaab wrote:
Lets face it, we all want to say it, its better than the Xperia Z.
Better benchmark scores with a better up to date chipset, better skin in Sense, intriguing camera and it'll still be getting up to date updates more often after Sony give up on their device.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-02-19 23:04 ]
that's just your opinion, better skin in sense? everyone has their own preferences for that, getting up to date updates more often than sony? how can you be so sure when it hasn't happened yet?
the only thing I agree is with the updated chipset on the HTC, but still I cannot understand people wanting faster cpu, better chipset, better gpu, when they don't even use all of it's potential, so yeah specs is really more of a geek talk, people complaining about lag on a dual core and that they need quad core only means they don't know how to maintain their phone software-wise.
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2013-02-20 03:51 ]
Posted by randomuser
Full Size camera samples.
http://www.sogi.com.tw/newfor[....]cle_list.aspx?Topic_id=6209481
Just average IMO.
Posted by MyP910
On 2013-02-20 00:02:57, etaab wrote:
Stereo speakers on a flagship again ? About time !
Lets face it, we all want to say it, its better than the Xperia Z.
Better benchmark scores with a better up to date chipset, better skin in Sense, intriguing camera and it'll still be getting up to date updates more often after Sony give up on their device.
Oh and well done HTC on not feeling it necessary to go crazy with increasing the screen size. Anything more than 5" is too big now.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-02-19 23:04 ]
Strange. I couldn't find anything that the new HTC is better than Xperia Z especially from customer point of view. I don't think a customer will choose based on a tad different in terms of benchmark. Customer will choose based on the responsiveness (lag free, fluidic). There is no different between the two.
I believe, the first thing a customer will look is the look of a device. Most people will choose based on the look and sony xperia Z got this covered.
Next, maybe they will look into the built quality. Premium feeling. Sony Xperia Z got this covered.
Next, they will look into the touch response (how smooth the touch) and a lag free phone will always be preferred. Sony Xperia Z got this covered.
Next, They will look into the display quality. The sharpness etc. Sony got this covered.
Next, small portion of people will look into the camera quality, features and how easy to take picture. Sony got this covered.
and with additional features like water and dust resistance (if marketed correctly) will seal the deal.
However, all of this will not happen if the marketing is not good. The only thing that is required is marketing/adverts.
Posted by >500
On 2013-02-19 20:39:20, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Incredible stuff by HTC, sounds like they've gone all out, and its being released soon after announcement, shows that they are serious unlike some other OEMs.
So thats the 1st major Android flagship outed, now we have to just see what LG and Samsung bring in the Optimus G Pro and GS4 respectively.
Cheap shot at Sony? If so, the XZ coming out a month after announcement isnt too bad really.
And the 1st major flagship this year? Um, XZ? Sony isnt exactly a small company. Sure they dont sell as many handsets and may make less money. But they are sure as hell a bigger company than the likes of ZTE, Huawei, if thats the class you are putting Sony in, that is. They're even bigger than LG and HTC when it comes to brand recognition.
edit: I dont care if its directed at Sony, I for one use a Blackberry, just dont agree with what you said
edit 2: Moving onto the phone itself, specs sound ace, I just dont like the look?? HTC's design language has changed a tiny bit here, but I would have liked to see a complete redesign. Too many of their phones are looking very similar.
And I hope for HTC's sake the reception is on par with other handsets. That One S of theirs and a couple other aluminium handsets were really not up to scratch in terms of reception. (not just an issue with HTC either)
Finally, all this talk of 'better handsets' is highly subjective. Of course there are handset better equipped than others, but defo doesnt make them 'better'. All comes down to how we use our phones, what features we require etc etc. I think the processing power found in the XZ, the s4 pro, is more than enough for current uses in a phone. I just dont get what people need that extra oomph for, benchmark bragging rights? If not, than what else? Honestly, an s4 pro or equivalent will handle all tasks just fine, even on a full hd screen. Sure the CPU's are becoming more efficient, but id prefer manufacturers work battery tech.
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2013-02-20 07:31 ]
Posted by randomuser
Oh please, get real.
HTC's Q1 sales target is half a million. Sony sold more Z's than that in a single WEEK in Japan.
Last year, Xperia S sold a lot more than Htc One X + One S + OneX+ combined. And we all know Xperia S was way behind One X/OneS/One X+ hardware wise. Z and One are not THAT different.
So just like how Sony Xperia Z is no threat to Galaxy S4 in terms of sales, HTC One is no threat to Sony Xperia Z.
Anyway I do like this handset. A good but inadequate flagship IMO with design copied from Blackberry Z10, Iphone 5 andSony Xperia Ion
Ultrapixel ? FAIL. An average joe isn't gonna understand what ultrapixel is, they will walk into a store and see 4mp - Instant turn off !!!
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 08:03 ]
Posted by >500
On 2013-02-20 08:59:19, randomuser wrote:
Oh please, get real.
HTC's Q1 sales target is half a million. Sony sold more Z's than that in a single WEEK in Japan.
Last year, Xperia S sold a lot more than Htc One X + One S + OneX+ combined. And we all know Xperia S was way behind One X/OneS/One X+ hardware wise. Z and One are not THAT different.
If your post was directed to me because I said Sony dont sell as many handsets, it was just a general comment comparing the whole market, ie, Sony not number one. Calm down
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2013-02-20 00:02:57, etaab wrote:
Stereo speakers on a flagship again ? About time !
Lets face it, we all want to say it, its better than the Xperia Z.
Better benchmark scores with a better up to date chipset, better skin in Sense, intriguing camera and it'll still be getting up to date updates more often after Sony give up on their device.
Oh and well done HTC on not feeling it necessary to go crazy with increasing the screen size. Anything more than 5" is too big now.
[ This Message was edited by: etaab on 2013-02-19 23:04 ]
+1 exactly. They seem to have paid a lot of attention to detail with this one, from materials used to the audio amps powering the stereo speakers, this is the Htc i know and like, and they have gone with one of the best chipsets which seems to have demolished Sony's effort.
Must admit, I do wish they had bumped up the screen size by a bit, wouldnt hurt to have bumped it up to 4.85inch. Glad they have a 64GB variant this time though, i feel thats part of what let them down with the One X.
Randomuser
Considering the One's wide availability when its released? It shouldn't have a problem passing the XZ's sales, Sonys Japan sales are a poor way of gauging how a device will do internationally, i remember people thinking the Xperia X10 would be a major success due to its sales in Japan.
Posted by Indiandawg
Sorry, HTC One does not beat XZ. Even the new UI is nothing great. What I really like is the Dual Stereo Speakers.
What are you'll always talking about chipsets, who gives a damn? If a smartphone can function smooth with a particular chipset then what's the problem? Look at BB Z10, It's a dual core and it's still very fluid. Talking about XZ, there is no lag found yet.
I don't think HTC One has anything exclusive besides the beats audio which is indeed good and I appreciate that. Also it's got IR blaster which is a great add on for lot of people. Ultra-Pixel? I'm very much excited to see the samples and if they turn out to be better than 13megapixel, than thank you HTC for starting a new revolution of a better smartphone camera.
Still even after all this I think XZ has a very good design, amazing glass materials and a rich polished UI. It's a beautiful smartphone inside out. I really don't see any better smartphone than XZ as this moment.
Waiting for S4!
Posted by randomuser
On 2013-02-20 09:30:23, >500 wrote:
If your post was directed to me because I said Sony dont sell as many handsets, it was just a general comment comparing the whole market, ie, Sony not number one. Calm down
Sorry if it seemed that way, my post was not directed at you
@Tsepz_GP
Please don't say something that stupid. No point bringing Xperia X10 to the discussion. That was a very old SE device.
HTC One Q1 sales target is 0.5 million. It will be available starting March 15 in various countries. Xperia Z sold 0.6 million in the first week of release in Japan alone (just one country). It would have sold at least 2 million units by the end of Q1 in Japan alone.
And anyway, it's not something I should even discuss. When Xperia S (which was heavily outdated compared to 2012 HTC flagships) beat HTC One X + One S + One X+ combined in terms of sales numbers, Z has absolutely nothing to worry about.
Sadly, another FAIL by HTC.
Not to mention, they might soon get sued by Blackberry/Apple/Sony. Maybe all 3.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 09:09 ]
Posted by >500
What do people think of the new Sense? Not liking the look currently, obviously will need to test in real life.
Sadly, it looks like the Bberry Z10.
Also, very surprised the s600 is available, I wasnt expecting it til about mid year, yet HTC and LG have it?
edit: all good randomuser
[ This Message was edited by: >500 on 2013-02-20 09:10 ]
Posted by randomuser
>500
Since LG/HTC want only a few hundred thousand units, Qualcomm would have no problem providing them with s600
LG I couldn't care less, but HTC I do genuinely feel sad for. They were a good brand, sad they are making some silly decisions lately.
Posted by feryshad
On 2013-02-20 10:03:52, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-02-20 09:30:23, >500 wrote:
If your post was directed to me because I said Sony dont sell as many handsets, it was just a general comment comparing the whole market, ie, Sony not number one. Calm down
HTC One Q1 sales target is 0.5 million. It will be available starting March 15 in various countries. Xperia Z sold 0.6 million in the first week of release in Japan alone (just one country). It would have sold at least 2 million units by the end of Q1 in Japan alone.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 09:09 ]
are u sure Ramu?
sonyviet said 140,000 Xperia Z slod in japan in 1 week
140,000 Xperia Z "all flying" within 1 weekLink text...
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2013-02-20 10:03:52, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-02-20 09:30:23, >500 wrote:
If your post was directed to me because I said Sony dont sell as many handsets, it was just a general comment comparing the whole market, ie, Sony not number one. Calm down
Sorry if it seemed that way, my post was not directed at you
@Tsepz_GP
Please don't say something that stupid. No point bringing Xperia X10 to the discussion. That was a very old SE device.
HTC One Q1 sales target is 0.5 million. It will be available starting March 15 in various countries. Xperia Z sold 0.6 million in the first week of release in Japan alone (just one country). It would have sold at least 2 million units by the end of Q1 in Japan alone.
And anyway, it's not something I should even discuss. When Xperia S (which was heavily outdated compared to 2012 HTC flagships) beat HTC One X + One S + One X+ combined in terms of sales numbers, Z has absolutely nothing to worry about.
Sadly, another FAIL by HTC.
Not to mention, they might soon get sued by Blackberry/Apple/Sony. Maybe all 3.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 09:09 ]
Nothing stupid about it, Japan is Sonys home country, the sales of Sony there are bound to be above average in the beginning, same story with the Xperia X10 and other passed SE/Sony flagships, it's the same with Samsung in Korea, Nokia in Finland and other Nordic countries etc... Sales in the home countries tend to be big in the beginning and then level off pretty quickly, unless you're Samsung of course.
HTC One Q1 sales target is 0.5 million. It will be available starting March 15 in various countries. Xperia Z sold 0.6 million in the first week of release in Japan alone (just one country). It would have sold at least 2 million units by the end of Q1 in Japan alone.
News flash, sales targets do get broken, just ask Apple and Samsung, just because 0.5million is their sales target doesn't mean they won't go over that, especially when you consider the One is being released in 80markets to around 185 carriers, that's JUST in March, so clearly they have got themselves some excellent distribution, overtaking Xperia Z sales shouldn't be an issue at all, especially in the long run, put this together with Htcs update policy which is much better than Sonys, and Htc may have a winner here.
Btw, saying Sony have nothing to worry about here is a very ignorant statement to say the least, Htc, Sony, Huawei and the lot are battling for scraps, a very tiny piece of the pie, they ALL have to worry about each other, each quarter there seems to be a shift in market share amongst them, so I'd say Sony has a lot to worry about, in the same way that Htc, Huawei, ZTE and so on do.
Posted by randomuser
I think it's 0.6 million. There was a link with chart in the rumor thread.
@Tsepz_GP
Really no point arguing with you since you will only believe what you want to believe. And you are free to do that of course, and I don't really care.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 09:30 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2013-02-20 10:22:53, feryshad wrote:
On 2013-02-20 10:03:52, randomuser wrote:
On 2013-02-20 09:30:23, >500 wrote:
If your post was directed to me because I said Sony dont sell as many handsets, it was just a general comment comparing the whole market, ie, Sony not number one. Calm down
HTC One Q1 sales target is 0.5 million. It will be available starting March 15 in various countries. Xperia Z sold 0.6 million in the first week of release in Japan alone (just one country). It would have sold at least 2 million units by the end of Q1 in Japan alone.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 09:09 ]
are u sure Ramu?
sonyviet said 140,000 Xperia Z slod in japan in 1 week
140,000 Xperia Z "all flying" within 1 weekLink text...
oh dear.
Posted by admad
On 2013-02-20 04:45:29, randomuser wrote:
Full Size camera samples.
http://www.sogi.com.tw/newfor[....]cle_list.aspx?Topic_id=6209481
Just average IMO.
Wow, that's very average. Like taking 13 MP photo from Z and resizing to 4MP, or even worse. I would rather have 13MP and resize as much as I want rather than 4 MP max. But let's wait for proper review.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2013-02-20 10:29:09, randomuser wrote:
I think it's 0.6 million. There was a link with chart in the rumor thread.
@Tsepz_GP
Really no point arguing with you since you will only believe what you want to believe. And you are free to do that of course, and I don't really care.
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 09:30 ]
I only believe facts
you on the other hand seem to be living in some sort of reality distortion field, I mean come on: Z has absolutely nothing to worry about.
??? Anyone and everyone (except you and any other blind fanboy) knows that's utter BS in this industry.
Posted by se_dude
I think people should stick to what they like and not try to influence people on what is good or what is bad. The Xperia Z is the most rugged phone in the market, which in itself will gather a lot of sales, a first in the market. Sony havew a lot of fancy terms to back themselves which, to the end user is gospel. Bravia,Exmor,Walkman,etc are known names which will do better than the ultrapixel brand being developed by HTC. Also, with the PS4 event scheduled, expected to offer the Sony Smartphones with a slight edge in keeping with the PS World, Sony has a lot going for itself.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
Early days but excellent benchmark scores coming from the One:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-[....]d%3A+slashgear+%28SlashGear%29
Posted by MyP910
I still couldn't find what is so great about this phone ? What is the selling point ? Why should the customer choose this phone ?...and why someone call this flagship ?
Posted by >500
@Tsepz_GP
Not to add fuel to the fire, but, should we really be that concerned still about benchmarks? 9/10 consumers use of the phone wont be hampered if it had a lower benchmark. TBH, its gotten to the point where its all about bragging rights. We simply dont need the extra oopmh for the ways we CURRENTLY use our phones! And, despite what many forum goers think, the average consumer still dont CLEARLY understand the technical differences. Its only a very minute population, in the grand scheme of things, that buy for this sort of thing.
Moving on, as some sites have reported, despite it having different camera tech, its still 4mp, and consumers will see that, and be turned away. And most sales people wont be able to explain the tech properly. Not to sure if this will be affected when viewing on higher resolution screens?
Posted by randomuser
>500
Not only that. But Ultrapixel is just a gimmick. See the Z thread, I posted some shots comparing HTC One with Z downsampled 4mp pics. HTC doesn't fare well at all. Even at 4MP there is not much detail and quite a bit of noise.
Iphone 5/Xperia V/Galaxy S3 downsampled to 4MP can easily beat the HTC One.
EDIT: See for yourself. More samples
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobi[....]0The%20new%20HTC%20One-review/
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-02-20 11:59 ]
Posted by Away
My second favourite Android OEM. Sad, but RIP HTC.
I hope they do well, I really do. I can not name 1 thing special about LG, and I have a Nexus 4 (which is sorta LGish)...
Samsung are a bunch of copycats, so I don't care about them. Apple will patent breathing one day. Nokia have chosen the wrong OS. Basically, they got Elopped.
No USP whatsoever. The camera turns out to be rubbish. They went too extreme with it. Should have been at least 8mp.
Posted by toscaniz
two major concerns with this phone: cam & battery. HTC's recent tracklist is'nt good at those two points.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2013-02-20 12:06:10, >500 wrote:
@Tsepz_GP
Not to add fuel to the fire, but, should we really be that concerned still about benchmarks? 9/10 consumers use of the phone wont be hampered if it had a lower benchmark. TBH, its gotten to the point where its all about bragging rights. We simply dont need the extra oopmh for the ways we CURRENTLY use our phones! And, despite what many forum goers think, the average consumer still dont CLEARLY understand the technical differences. Its only a very minute population, in the grand scheme of things, that buy for this sort of thing.
Moving on, as some sites have reported, despite it having different camera tech, its still 4mp, and consumers will see that, and be turned away. And most sales people wont be able to explain the tech properly. Not to sure if this will be affected when viewing on higher resolution screens?
Personally like looking at benchmarks to get an idea of how the insides of the phone and it's SW perform as compared to the competitors.
I'm not big on cameras, and going by the trends, neither are most consumers, I remember when I got my GS3 I had a moment where I couldn't even remember if it had a 8mp or 13mp camera, had to check the box, so I don't know how many will react. If HC market this right, the whole UltraPixel thing could work to their advantage, as for the 4 count, I don't see it being a major deal breaker, especially if they don't mention it in their marketing.
All they have to do is market the crap out of SenseUI, the incredible audio technology in this beast, the beautiful metal finish of the phone, the incredibly high PPI display (+450 PPI) and then just drop UltraPixel in there and make it sound like an evolution from Megapixel and they are sorted. I'm only a marketing student, so I'm sure Htcs own marketing team will have much better ideas, I just hope they have a better campaign than they did for the One X.
I'm shocked nobody has anything to say about HTCs fast distribution to so many markets and carriers, I saw signs of this when the One X arrived down here rather quickly, seems they have sorted out their distribution channels, all they need now is a killer campaign
Posted by Away
A marketing campaign? With what money?
Posted by Bonovox
I like this phone & I think it will do well for HTC. I also like the fact that they have finally overhauled their skin. The old app drawer was looking boring and tired. They now changed it with folders etc & Sense 5. Also,I doubt it BB are going start to sue HTC or anyone they ain't like Apple. HTC more than likely had this design ages ago before they knew of BBZ10
[ This Message was edited by: Sean72 on 2013-02-20 18:27 ]
Posted by rickster2kuk
The samples in below link:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobi[....]-M7,%20新%20HTC%20One-review/
The outdoor shots are actually pretty good considering our typical low light winter skies in the UK. At full zoom details are nice and colours and focus are spot on. The more samples I see I am shedding my initial scepticism and this could be a really nice camera...
But the kicker is that they are no better than anything currently on the market and certainly nothing near Pureview which was stunning, there is no crystal clear detail like Pureview in these samples and they look more like samples from last year's One X. This would be fine but most people would rather have an average 8/13mpx camera than an average 4mpx unit.
I could just about live with this and I'd need to see more shots in good light.
Overal I'm more impressed with the One than the Z. HTC have made a good move in restricted the screen size to 4.7 - ideal imo, 5 is too much for me and the design is something that Samsung could take a leaf from.
All in all a very nice device, but I really wish that HTC had gone with the flow on the camera or at least increased the sensor size.
[ This Message was edited by: rickster2kuk on 2013-02-20 19:10 ]
Posted by Away
On 2013-02-20 20:09:40, rickster2kuk wrote:
The samples in below link:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobi[....]-M7,%20新%20HTC%20One-review/
The outdoor shots are actually pretty good considering our typical low light winter skies in the UK. At full zoom details are nice and colours and focus are spot on. The more samples I see I am shedding my initial scepticism and this could be a really nice camera...
But the kicker is that they are no better than anything currently on the market and certainly nothing near Pureview which was stunning, there is no crystal clear detail like Pureview in these samples and they look more like samples from last year's One X. This would be fine but most people would rather have an average 8/13mpx camera than an average 4mpx unit.
I could just about live with this and I'd need to see more shots in good light.
Overal I'm more impressed with the One than the Z. HTC have made a good move in restricted the screen size to 4.7 - ideal imo, 5 is too much for me and the design is something that Samsung could take a leaf from.
All in all a very nice device, but I really wish that HTC had gone with the flow on the camera or at least increased the sensor size.
[ This Message was edited by: rickster2kuk on 2013-02-20 19:10 ]
I've posted that the Z is 2mm wider and taller with a bigger screen. The on-screen buttons hide themselves in videos anyway, so the screen is not usually wasted. 'design is something that Samsung could take a leaf from'. No, how to copy designs is what Samsung could take a leaf from. HTC have beautifully copied the back of the XP and ion, along with the front of the iPhone 5. Nice one?
[ This Message was edited by: Away on 2013-02-20 19:47 ]
Posted by Bonovox
Samsung is worst for designs very bland
Posted by Bonovox
The Chinese will take over HTC's market share if not already
For a fraction of the cost
[ This Message was edited by: laffen on 2013-02-20 22:06 ]
Posted by Tsepz_GP
If im not mistaken Huawei or ZTE are the 4th largest phone maker after Samsung, Nokia and Apple, cant remember, but the Chinese have definetly begun taking over, i dont know if they can take down any of the big 3 though.
Posted by etaab
Heh, personally id never buy a ZTE or Huawei. Both companies have been known to install spyware in their products according to news sources so I could never trust them with a device which is so smart.
Regarding the new One.
I think its great. Its got a fantastic chipset which is faster than Sony's new phone before its even been released. I can list a few points of why I prefer the One over the Z.
- the One looks nicer imo
- metal is better than glass, Apple are the leaders in fashion and design. Their 5 has metal now. Glass is old news
- someone said the Z will be rugged, not where its mostly glass. Id rather have toughened aluminium like my old N8
- better screen - the Z has poor contrast and viewing angles
- much better speakers - One is better for movies with better screen and speakers
- better UI skin - I like sense, Sony's skin is dull, colour less, harder to customise, cant stand having home screen dots at top of screen
- better software and quicker android updates
- better software innovations
I know, some will disagree but they're whats important to me. The problem I would have with the Z is the silly flaps over the ports which look stupid when plugging in headphones or a charging cable. Flaps over ports are so last decade.
I think HTC have the better phone but I think Sony's will sell more on looks alone.
Posted by Bonovox
The BBC reported recently the spy story was found to be false. The Sony has them flaps to keep it water tight
[ This Message was edited by: Sean72 on 2013-02-20 22:00 ]
Posted by rickster2kuk
The funny thing with last years One was that it was a really good phone and got great write-ups everywhere, yes there were initial issues with the screen and battery (but Sony were just as bad).
HTC just seemed to completely forget about marketing it - I can't recall seeing much media presence compared to Samsung or Sony and on that basis a fundamentally good phone fell under the radar.
Posted by etaab
I know it has flaps to keep it water tight. But I have no need for waterproof phones. Those flaps would just annoy me.
I wish HTC all the best but I dont think it will dig them out of the hole they're in.
Posted by Tsepz_GP
On 2013-02-20 23:02:46, rickster2kuk wrote:
The funny thing with last years One was that it was a really good phone and got great write-ups everywhere, yes there were initial issues with the screen and battery (but Sony were just as bad).
HTC just seemed to completely forget about marketing it - I can't recall seeing much media presence compared to Samsung or Sony and on that basis a fundamentally good phone fell under the radar.
That's the thing, there really wasn't much wrong with the One X, in actual fact if Htc had marketed it properly it could've owned the GS3 due to its looks. I remember seeing a few adverts of the One X here, here is the one they played for a while down here:
http://youtu.be/M-ppV7cMCJk
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-02-20 22:34 ]
Posted by etaab
Apart from one cinema ad, the same ad on tv and in newspapers and magazines there wasnt much coverage of the One X.
So yeah that was one problem. HTCs attitude was another. Release the phone and forget about it is the usual strategy. What about new apps like Samsungs split screen ? HTC only update the OS and dont like to add new functionality.
Posted by Bonovox
http://www.phones4u.co.uk/htc[....]ntcid=hero1_htc_one_19-02-2013
Pre orders here with free stuff
Posted by Bonovox
Image samples against iPhone 5
http://www.phonearena.com/new[....]amples-surface_id40089#2-Macro
Posted by rickster2kuk
HTC seems to cope quite well.
I'm more interested to see more samples from the HTC cam when the reviews start coming through.
I really commend HTC for being bold on the camera issue, I'm just not sure they can pull it off.