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Posted by Hlcn Twst
It's something like this IIRC. Let me know if I'm missing anything.

rest of the world
T610
T630
S700i
K750i
K790i/K800i
K550i
K810i
K770i
K850i

N. America-compatible (include 850 & 1900 MHz)
T616
T637
S710a
K790a
K550i
K850i

I'm trying to put together a collection of these (for N. America). My T616 came to a bad end, unfortunately And I don't have the K850i ... Yet



Posted by goldenface
K700



Posted by jcwhite_uk
Missing:
P800
P900
P910i
P990i
P1i
K500i
W800i
W900i
W880i
W890i
W550i
W910i
W960i
W580i
S500i
and lots more that I cant think of.

There was also a few phones that supported the MCA-10,20 and 30 that was a camera attachment.

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Posted by BobaFett
ps everything started with /// just remember the first mca attached to r520 etc

Posted by jcwhite_uk
A couple more:
V800
Z800i
V630i
V600i
K600i
K608i
K660i
W380i
W300i
Z600
V640i
K220i
K200i
K550i
K550im
W710i
W700i
Z710i
Z550i
Z530i
K310i
K510i
D750i
Z520i
W810i
K610i
W850i
Z610i
Z550i


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Posted by QVGA
where the heck is K700?

Posted by jcwhite_uk

On 2007-12-06 18:18:31, QVGA wrote:
where the heck is K700?


The second post!

Posted by gaming_guy

On 2007-12-06 18:12:12, jcwhite_uk wrote:
A couple more




more like half the range!

Posted by anonymuser
The (Ericsson) T68 should get special mention - I've an idea it was their first phone with MMS support, and the "communicam" attachment was designed for it. First photo-friendly colour screen too.

[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2007-12-06 17:31 ]

Posted by NightBlade

On 2007-12-06 18:28:57, gaming_guy wrote:

On 2007-12-06 18:12:12, jcwhite_uk wrote:
A couple more




more like half the range!


He said camera-centric, not "featuring a camera".

Posted by Hlcn Twst
What Nightblade said...

I'm focusing on those phones where the camera was the key feature. So I'm not counting the "P" and models.

The T610/616/630/637 are there because they touted the "QuickShare" capability. The S700i/S710a had a remarkable (for the time) camera module. The rest are "Cybershot" models.

Please, let's keep this timeline of camera-CENTRIC phones more tightly focused. Thanks.


Posted by jcwhite_uk
Oh ok.
I would still include the P800 as it was the first SE with a built in camera.

Posted by QVGA
K700 was camera centric. First dual front phone for pete sakes!

Posted by Hlcn Twst
So the list should now read, in order of introduction date:

P800
T610/T616
T630/T637
K700
S700i/S710a
K750i
K790a/K790i/K800i
K550i
K810i
K770i
K850i

(bold indicating N. America compatibility, i.e., 850 & 1900 MHz bands included)


Posted by Hlcn Twst

On 2007-12-06 20:48:29, QVGA wrote:
K700 was camera centric. First dual front phone for pete sakes!



I thought T630/T637 was the first "dual front" phone?


Posted by gaming_guy
afaik there is a k790c as well

Posted by SaLiH
I think it was like this:





T68i (didn't have built in, but add-on camera) T68i was also the first Sony Ericsson phone that appeared, after Sony and Ericsson made a deal, Announced 2002, April




P800 0.3 MP (VGA, 640x480 pixels); first SE phone with built in camera Announced 2002, September




T610 0.1 MP (CIF, 352 x 288 pixels); Announced 2003, 2Q





T630 0.1 MP (CIF, 352 x 288 pixels); Announced 2003, 4Q





K700 0.3 MP (VGA, 640x480 pixels) video, led flash; Announced 2004, March





S700 1.3 MP (1280x960 pixels) video, led flash; the first and only SE with CCD sensor; Announced 2004, March




S710 1.3 MP (1280x960 pixels) video, led flash; the first and only SE with CCD sensor; Announced 2004, March




F500i 0.3 MP (VGA, 640x480 pixels) video; Vodafone Announced 2004,2Q




K500 0.3 MP (VGA, 640x480 pixels) video; Announced 2004, 3Q




K508 0.3 MP (VGA, 640x480 pixels) video; Announced 2004, 3Q






K750 2.0 MP (1632x1224 pixels) autofocus, video, led flash; Announced 2005, 1Q





K800 3.15 MP (2048x1536 pixels) autofocus, video(QCIF), xenon flash; secondary video call camera; Announced 2006, February





K790 3.15 MP (2048x1536 pixels) autofocus, video(QCIF), xenon flash; secondary video call camera; Announced in 2006, February





K550 2.0 MP (1632x1224 pixels) autofocus, video(QCIF), led flash; Announced 2007, February






K810 3.15 MP (2048x1536 pixels) autofocus, video(QCIF), xenon flash; secondary video call camera; Announced 2007, February




K818 3.15 MP (2048x1536 pixels) autofocus, video(QCIF), xenon flash; secondary video call camera; Announced 2007, February





K850 5 MP (2592х1944 pixels) autofocus, video(QVGA@30fps), xenon flash and 3LED video light; auto lens cover, secondary videocall camera; Announced 2007, June

K858 5 MP (2592х1944 pixels) autofocus, video(QVGA@30fps), xenon flash and 3LED video light; auto lens cover, secondary videocall camera; Announced 2007, June






K770 3.15 MP (2048x1536 pixels) autofocus, video, LED flash, secondary VGA videocall camera; Announced 2007, August


Of course, this is only if we're talking about camera-centric phones, because most of these phones had their opponents with almost the same camera, for example

K700, had K300, K310, Z500 and every other SE VGA phone

S700 & S710, had V800, K600, V600, K510 W550, and every other SE 1.3 MP phone, although S700 was the only one to have CCD sensor

Then in the Walkman era, almost every camera-centric phone had it's opponent with the same quality in the beginning, but later worse without AF, flash, with smaller lenses...

K750, had D750, W800, W810, W900, & P990 which had the same quality and weren't camera-centric, and many other like W850, K610....every other SE 2 MP, which had worse quality.

K800, K790, K810, K818, had P1 with slightly worse quality, W960 almost the same quality, W890 with worse quality, without AF, flash

K770, has T650, which is practically the same phone, without camera cover and with different housing, which can be swapped.

K850, still doesn't have any opponent, it's still the only SE 5 MP phone

For me these are the best Sony Ericsson camera phones:









K770, T650, P1 & W960 can squeeze in too, because they have a decent 3 MP cameras too!

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[ This Message was edited by: SaLiH on 2007-12-06 23:01 ]

Posted by max_wedge

On 2007-12-06 21:30:25, Hlcn Twst wrote:

On 2007-12-06 20:48:29, QVGA wrote:
K700 was camera centric. First dual front phone for pete sakes!



I thought T630/T637 was the first "dual front" phone?


No, the K700 was the first camera phone for which SE used the term "dual fronts".

The term refers to the use of camera styling cues, and the K700 was the first SE camera phone where the camera part actually looked like a camera and not just a phone with a camera in it.

I'd also include the K610, as it was marketed as a camera phone, even though it's not AF.


Posted by razec
SaLiH afaik T630 has VGA resolution, not CIF

I wont call K850 the best 5mp camera but the SO905iCS because of a more decent Sensor and optical zoom

Posted by jplacson
A long time ago (shows my age since I had it then)

Ericsson was working on the concept of a "cameraphone" (supposedly with Canon) The end result was this:



and this



These worked on the T39, R520, and T68 (prior to it becoming the T68i) as well as the midrange T65.

On the T39 and R520, it took colored pics, but the phone would only display a grayscale (B&W) preview of it, but a full-color photo could be sent via MMS, email or beamed to a PC. (Although only the T68 could receive a colored MMS at the time)

The MCA-10 was repackaged by as the MCA-25 & 30 I believe, to carry the SonyEricsson name (no logo was developed at the time yet)

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Posted by *Jojo*
@salih - NICE presentation matey !

@boba - Is the R520 a colored fone If NOT, I wonder how the images will APPEAR in B&W

Posted by marbolec
No, R520 is B/W
I'm also wondering how to see the capture result with this phone??.....


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Posted by max_wedge

On 2007-12-07 03:03:08, razec wrote:
SaLiH afaik T630 has VGA resolution, not CIF

I wont call K850 the best 5mp camera but the SO905iCS because of a more decent Sensor and optical zoom


No, T630 was only 100K sensor (exact same hardware as T610, only difference was the screen).

Posted by chancooluk
What about the T300/T310? They were basically just a t68i without bluetooth. I had a T300 with the camera attachment bundled.


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