Posted by happykhan
First, Have a look at these pics:
The one on the left is HPM-70, and the one on the right is HPM-60.
After converting my K750 into W800, yesterday I bought a HPM-70 handsfree coz I thought it’s quality is much better than HPM-60. (K750’s original one)
[AND I bought the original HPM-70, three times more expensive than nonoriginal ones]
When I tested the new handsfree, OOOOOHHHHH, It was just like listening to a 1$ handsfree. Suddently I remembered that I had uploaded aksd’s no_hissing files and it must be somehow related to that.
When I got home, I rolled back to the original acoustic files and then tested again: JUST Normal quality.
NOW the matter is that: with HPM-60 I had no problem with no_hissing files AND the quality was fantastic, and also with louder volume; But with the new HPM-70 (Which is ORIGINAL WALKMAN’s handsfree) the quality is just normal.
EVEN with original acoustic files, HPM-60’s volume is about 10% more, AND also with much better Bass.
As seen in the pictures above, it MUST be due to headphone’s size (Although not always the bigger is better BUT for a headphone it IS important)
All in all it’s a real shame for SE that HPM-60’s quality (which is non-walkman handsfree) is MUCH better than HPM-70’s quality (which is walkman’s standard handsfree)
What do you think?
P.S. Although the matter of sound quality is completely a SUBJECTIVE matter, BUT there are some big differences that you can easily notice, just if you have non-impaired ears!!!!
[ This Message was edited by: happykhan on 2006-07-18 18:07 ]
Posted by marran
well with the hpm-70 u can use any headphones u want, if they have a 3,5mm plug
Posted by ann3x10
those are in ear earphones you must ut it in your ear canaals to have the best sound, maybe you haven't done that, i have a w800 and this handset and it never seems to fail on me.
Posted by max_wedge
you have a dud hpm-70 maybe. My HPM-70 is fine. Excellent quality and better than the original, although the original aren't too bad either.
Posted by IRFCA_WDG-3A
I wonder what's the issue with so many HPM-70s around. I bought a set of original HPM-70s too, for my K750, and found them to be much better than the HPB-60 - Yes, it's HPB60, and not HPM. (K750 default headset).
Is it a fact that
is not consistent with their quality control?
Posted by pow1990
so the hmp 70 is the left one and the hmp 60 is aswell
pow
Posted by QVGA
I dont know, the HPM i got with my W800 are fantastic.
Posted by happykhan
The HPM-70 i bought was from a w800's package that the phone itself was stolen and the owner put it there for sale.I bought the HPM-70 and the USB cable.This way my hansfree should be the original one; Isn't it?
Another topic apart from quality(which i believe is completely a subjective matter), is the volume which is noticably higher(5-10%) in HBP-60 than HPM-70.
@QVGA
Have you ever compared ur HPM-70 with any HPB-60?
[ This Message was edited by: happykhan on 2006-07-18 18:06 ]
Posted by IRFCA_WDG-3A
@happykhan,
Volume i definitely higher in the HPB-60, coz it's meant to drown all external noise with it's own volume, unlike the HPM-70, which insulates your ears from external noise.
And as far as your narrative goes, I feel, the seller has you taken for a ride, though I can't say for sure.
Posted by QVGA
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Ofcourse i have. And how can you possibly think SE will provide inferior ear phones with a W series phone?
Posted by happykhan
I think that my HPM-70 should be an original one:
Isn't it?
Anyway, Tomorrow i will compare my HPM-70's quality with my friend's one who has a W800 and i will post the results.
Posted by emanuelj
You need to put the headphones long into your ears so that it feels the first time like you have pushed them to long.
The hpm-70 is the best headphones that i have had!
Posted by Lightning1
hpm-70 kicks ass
Posted by ann3x10
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i agree!
Posted by IRFCA_WDG-3A
You definitely can't draw conclusions from the outer labels only.....you got to dig deeper to differentiate an original from the dupe.
Anyway, original vs dupe isn't an issue here - AFAIK, even many of the owners of the Original headsets complain of poor quality.
Interestingly I've tested 5-6 original HPM-70 headsets from my friends' W550s and W800s, and i'm yet to see a HPM-70 that gives poor quality sound.
Posted by blasjw
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I got some black ones on eBay and I don't think they sound very good. Actually, the HBH-DS970 sounds much better. Maybe all the black ones are counterfeit? What's the best way to tell? Actually, they look pretty authentic to me.
Posted by triplea
I bought my first silver HPM-70's from eBay about twoo weeks ago. At first I thought they looked very authentic (came in plastic bag, complete with separate bag for spare rubbers, little green tag like in happykhans picture, print on the plastic bags and so on...), but after a very close look I concluded that they where fake. The main give away was that the Walkman-print on the microphone unit was a bit wobbly. But I guess there are MANY different HPM 70-knockoffs, so just because your suspected fakes have the print error-free doesn't necessarily mean that they are authentic.
The eBay vendor has agreed to give me a refund if I return the phones. Still, watch out for digital_zquare!
I will post some pictures later.
By the way, how many of you got a neckband with your HPM-70's?
[ This Message was edited by: triplea on 2006-10-12 19:24 ]
Posted by ghostfreak
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Do you mean 'e_zquare digital' ?
I just bought my HPM-70's from them yesterday!
The picture from ebay they posted:
Posted by triplea
Yep, that's the same seller. They used the same picture, anyway. The headset I received differed from the picture posted in several ways:
1) The picture shows a pearl white HPM-70, but the phones they are selling are silver.
2) The 3.5mm connector is different. Mine has 2 full rings around it, the one on the picture has 2 fat wedges.
3) The wiggly joint between the 3.5mm connector and the wire is different. Mine is ment to bend in 2 ways, the one in the picture only flexes one way.
4) The little plastic tube between the silver and grey main earpiece housing is cut with an angle on the picture. Mine is straight.
So, the picture shows an authentic, pearl white HPM-70. You will receive a fake silver one. Try to return it.
Sorry to break the bad news for you
[ This Message was edited by: triplea on 2006-10-13 07:24 ]
Posted by rockygali
not all black hpm70s are fake or imitation... remember this one
and this is mine.
Posted by ghostfreak
The black ones looks nice!
I'll take some pics of my HPM-70's when I get them and post them here.
Posted by lazeeboy
i've got the black one too. using it with my K610i. at first i had to adjust a bit 'coz it was my first time to use in-ear buds. now i'm ok with it.
Posted by rockygali
yes lazeeboy, its kinda awkward at foist... but when you gotsta use to it... then its quite fine... its loud coz its deep within yer ears... and you only need to use about 3 bars of your volume... 4 is just too loud for me...
and this saves you batt life di ba? so maganda talaga!
Posted by tranced
i just bought my hpm-70 two days ago and finally have the real sound in my ears. but now i have a problem, i have an ear-ache and head-ache. i've worn them too much time!!!
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[ This Message was edited by: tranced on 2006-10-13 14:43 ]
Posted by vizzpv
i plan to get a headset , probably Hpm-70 for my k750i .. any sugestions ?
Posted by QuickShare
HPM-70 with K750 are great combination.. go for it and you'll never regreat
Posted by vizzpv
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Thanks QuickShare!, Offtopic.. can i patch my CID49 with anything using the dcu-60 ?
Posted by doublecheese
After several test l made I decided that I will only use the 3.5mm plug of my HPM 70s rather than the whole thing. Now I am using the original headphones of my Ipod which seem to make a better job for me. For best results i can recommend headphones which are big enough to completely cover your ears.
Posted by madkat
Looks like the 0xWxx in the bottom left of the little green tag is the year & week of manufacture. The ones I got say 06W11 and have a high serial number (>1,000,000). I make that half way through March. It seems to fit in with the serials on others posted here.
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Posted by Pepi
well here in bulgaria there aren't any HPM-70s that aren't fake. i tried some last week but they all were crap! i really want to get one too but...
Posted by deluded
Personally, I've just gotten my HPM-70 about a week back. I like being able to use my own earphones with my K750i if I wanted to. Sound-wise, I'd say the HPM-70 earbuds are satisfactory, but not what I'm looking for. I've since decided to use my HPM-60 instead. They're good enough for everyday usage.
Posted by tranced
hpm-70 gives me head-ache but im still using them. i have'em cuz when i listen to music i want to listen to music, not the outside noisy world where i live in. there are a lot of music genre being played in public transportation that i hate to death, that's why i bought my hpm-70.
Posted by deluded
@tranced, if shutting out the outside noise is your main objective, you might wanna consider the Koss Plugs.
http://www.amazon.com/Koss-Th[....]table-Headphones/dp/B00001P4XA
I own a pair of them myself and they're amazing when it comes to cutting down ambient noise. Best part is that they're very affordable, so everybody should have a pair. Note that it's dangerous to use them on the road cos you can hardly hear anything apart from your music.
Posted by tranced
thanks for your interest, but im still unable to buy from internet
these headphones looks ok for me, thanks
Posted by deluded
I believe those earphones are quite popular everywhere, so if you have the time, do check out if your nearest music store sells them. (sorry about posting off-topic)
Posted by abbafan1972
I have a W810i and I use HPM-60 (the K750i headphones), they are much more comfortable and the sound quality is still great. And they don't keep falling out of my ears.
Posted by deluded
I have to agree that the the HPM-60 are certainly less of a hassle to use for me, although I don't have a problem with the HPM-70 earbuds falling out of my ears. Just saw the HPM-85, looks pretty good and I think I might get it if I can find it at a decent price over here.
Posted by goner
hi there! can anyone tell me if you have had any problems with brand new HPM-70's? i bought mine 3 days ago and they sound really good when i put some music on the player! but as i tried to make calls with the hands free headset plugged in (i own a w800i) u hear an anoying noise in the headphones (the same noise u hear when ur phone is near speakers that aren't isolated and u receive a call) is this normal? i don't remember any noise with the original headset that came with the phone... i tried it (the old one) with the new headphones and the music seems with the same great quality.. and as i tried calling with it u don't hear the buzzing... is the new HPM-70 fake?
Posted by zolo
One of the top ranked in ear phones is the shure e series sound isolating ones. . . Nothing beats it. . Studio quality only downside extremely expensive
Posted by mobeca
HPM-60 / HPM-70
pros:
- Sound 2 (scale 1-3) / - Sound 3 (scale 1-3)
- Good radio reception / - Good fit
--/ - Using any standard jack
--/ - very sensitive microphone
Cons:
- Unconfortable after long use / - Average radio reception
--/ - Can't listen environment sound so voice interferes to sound in headphones.
PS: It's a subjetive test.
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Posted by Mige
HPM-70
Posted by Mige
hpm-70
Posted by lolcito
HPM - 70
Posted by Mige
exactly