Posted by Stef
Hi all,
I was thinking this day. Working on my house and cleaning stuff, i was wondering about a perfect phone. And my conclusion was that there is no `perfect` phone! There`s always something missing.
I grab a pencil and a piece of paper and start drawing. I loved the walkman series, and also the swiffle design. ( my phone is now an S700i)
Keeping in mind that`s 2006, that the megapixel race is (almost) over and the possibilities of putting hard/soft ware in my `own phone`.
I would like to call the Sony Ericsson W930. Because we have already a W950... and a W1000 is to...well to many numbers!
Part 1: The Name + Marketing
I have also some specs in my head:
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* 3G music swiffle phone with 4GB memory.
Sizes: 110 x 50 x 22 mm
-Network
Tri band
-Battery
Type Li-ion
2200 mAh
- Screen:
2,2 inch
320x240
16.000.000 colours
2 times: 180 degrees twist.
- Camera
3,2 megapixel camera
3 Flash LED`s
Auto focus
12x Digital zoom
Macro
Night mode
Panoramic
Landscape
Portrait
Video QVGA at 30 fps
-Memory
4GB internal memory
3,5 GB for music, video and other
0,5 GB for theme, games, sms etc.
-Audio
72 polyphonic ringtones
MP3 ringtones
Ringtone Composer
FM Radio (Stereo)
Voice command
Voice dialing
Voice memo
2 side speakers
1 central speaker
3D sound
-Messaging
E-mail POP3
-SMTP
-IMAP4
EMS
Instant messaging
-Wireless Instant Messaging
Java ondersteuning
MMS
Predictive Text Input (T9/Ezi/iTap)
Quickshare
SMS
Video MMS
-Connectivity
3G
-UMTS
Twin camera
Video calling
Bluetooth
Wifi 802.11 g/h/i
Infrared
Internet browser
-XHTML browser
-Modem
PC-Modem connectie
Sync via USB on PC
Sync via RS232 on PC
Sync via Bluetooth
Sync via Infrarood
WAP 2.0
-WAP browser
-Other functions
MP3/Video player
Calculator
Games
Image Editor
Movie Editor
Stopwatch
etc. etc.
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I will try to post every day a picture of my new sketches but it isn`t a promis! Remind well: This isn`t a real phone nor a rumour. It is a drawing of my fantasy and will not for sale!!
Tell me what youre thoughts are, and give comment! Greets from Holland,
Stef
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Posted by PeterKay
Interesting topic my dutch friend
Maybe
are watching and may like your idea!
Posted by Blackmoon
Idd,
Nice idea's,
Maybe wifi on the telephone
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Greetz.
Posted by PeterKay
Thought of any pics yet?
Posted by Stef
I hope post some sketches today, but i`m very busy with my house! We are in a [verbouwing]...well I don`t know the word but our house is `under construction`
I think aroud 14.00 that I`ll post my first pics!
Greetz
Posted by PeterKay
Look forward to that..
Posted by Pepi
interesting...but why not a bit bigger screen?
Posted by Stef
Sketch nr. 1
Sketch nr. 2
Well, as you see it has a joystick...but!
While I was drawing it taught about al the broken or malfunction joysticks of T** K7** and W800. So I try to put a very smal 4 way touchpad. On the 2nd sketch you see an cam. for video calling, beside the cam there is the M600 like speaker. Further a Walkman logo, `C` button and `return` button.
I`ll see you by the new update!
Greets Stef
Posted by Stef
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Well, you`ll need a bigger battery! And youre standby time will be around the 2 days if you have a 2,6 " screen! So I think it`s good, maybe 2,3 " is okay but not larger!
Posted by Coxy
Looks to similar to the S700 imo.
Posted by [J]-DiE
I think so, the body is almost same with the S700
Posted by brix25
It's too ugly and too similiar to the S700..
For me the next swivel phone from SE will have to be smaller and still pack features which will make it competitive.
Posted by Stef
I know that its a very look-a-like to the S700i. There are just sketches and I needed something to begin! [My own S700] IMO is the W900 to bulky and so straight. I try to make a balance with the S700 and the W900!
Greetz Stef
Posted by Stef
Here it is! Sketch nr. 3 Enjoy and feel free to give comment!
Posted by [J]-DiE
Looks better.....
Posted by altemyr
The W950 is a fact, it's coming out any quarter '06. The major differences from your spec is that it does not have a camera, and it's not a swivel model but more like a palmtop. It also has a touch screen, so there is one more similarity with a palmtop.
Posted by Stef
Well, IMO youre right, but this is a High End phone, with top features and also bussines features.. So you might see it as a palmtop, but i dont!
I almost forgot: I try to post a new sketch [ more W800 look ] this eve!
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Posted by sunjivas
i think u mean 51mm for the dimension of the bottom in your sketch
Posted by arj2442
lol, way to much time on your hands guys...
lmao...love the idea though
Posted by Stef
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Nooo..! I don`t mean 51 mm!
Lol, Here is the fourth update already! And what a surprise! Its in paint!
Posted by Stef
As you can see, i`ve made 2 types:
1. is a keypad I have `invent`
2. is a keypad similar too the W800, cause I love the desing of the first Wphone!
And as 2nd: The keypad of the numbers/lettres is exactly the same as the W800. I think about to change this but for now, i`m happy with it!
EnjoY! And feel free to give comment,
Greetz Stef
EDIT: I have not received any comment, so till I get some, I will make new! And please choose between those to keypads, I don`t know!:s
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Posted by *Jojo*
@stef - Nice IDEA and Sketches too mate! I hope that Nokia won't grab your THOUGHTS and put them in works on their Blueprints . . .
Posted by Stef
nah! they wont! or would theY!?
I have also sketches of a proto Nokia N95, but this isn`t the forum to post them!
Posted by indiannawaf
Well, all I can say is,
you are good at drawing!
Posted by Stef
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Thanks! Yesterday, at 23.00 PM i`ve made some new, i`ll post them over 3 days (i`m busy with school and stuff)!
Greetz Stef
Posted by mcrosser
I have an idea: why not put instead of joystick/D-pad a touchpad similar to thos found in laptops that replace the mouse! think about it. and in specs instead of QVGA why not 0.07 Megapixels?? it's equivalent but I don't now if the low number would scare customers
Posted by Stef
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Well I like the touchpad idea though, but QVGA is nice, because there´s VGA in it!:P Lol, sorry i`m joking.
I hope SE will make phones this year with 16.000.000 colour displays and equip the Highend phones with VGA. Maybe an idea for the P1000??
I`ll post my new sketches on thuesday!
Posted by lezeo
dun pos ur pics again plzzz... they r al rili ugly...
Posted by Stef
I`m SO sorry for no posting any pics...!:( But I was ill last week so I haven`t any time! So here a pic of new ideas. Read my earlier post.!
I see that my sketches aren`t very `popular` why don`t you people give comment!:( For how do I this?? For U Guys!!!!!!
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Posted by mcrosser
ok Stef, here's my contribution:
will get better with time I hope
Posted by malinda
This will be the new SE Slider I think.
Posted by mcrosser
no way! I just made that up
Posted by fatreg
why are moto gonna let Se use their itap?
i think your on a hiding to nuffin kiddy
fatreg
Posted by Stef
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Very nice, !! They are beautifull but I don`t understand: What about al those buttons! I count 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 or more on the front of the phone. Please explain it to me
Posted by Stef
Hi all, here i am! Back with new sketches of my W830/W850i
They are based on the first sketches of mcrosser (I love you`re designes!! ) So my inspiration is all for Mcrosser! *wink* Here they are:
I`ve copied the keypad (a bit)
I`ve changed some things at the back/camera
and I took some buttons away and put them very close to eachother.
Almost forgot: This is a sketch of 10 minutes work... so I make better, beautifuller and prettier sketches in the weekend..!
Posted by mat3k
i like the 16,ooo,ooo colors idea the most
... but hey my k750i will suck ! 
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Posted by mcrosser
well the soft keys are supposed to be like the T610's. the keys are (counterclockwise): left soft key, back, internet, media player, activity menu, clear and right soft key. below all of these there's supposed to be two pairs of tiny speakers, in a bean shape. I didn't have an idea for the numeric keypad, so I though I would use something similar to Z600. the camera side has two more speakers, a xenon flash and two light bulbs for video recording in darkness. there is a lens shutter like in S700 but no switch because it's automatic when you use the camera. on top of the screen, there's an A and B button for gaming. and two leds to show when wifi or bluetooth is on. that's about it I suppose.
Posted by Stef
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Okay it`s very clear now! I had today a few hours off so I make a full replica of youre first sketch. I`ve removed the gaming, media buttons and also the 2 tiny `bean` speakers. I turned the back of the phone more like the W800 (that`s my hole inspiration together with a rotator design)
I placed the VideoCall camera in the middle and I`ve made round hole for the speaker.
I`ve also added 3 * W950 like * music buttons that do not appear when the phone is in `normal mode` but only in `music/video mode`
The keypad is one of the coolest part of the phone IMO. Very big, clear and easy to use.
Enjoy my latest pictures of the W830/W850 I only will make an explanation page with the buttons/LED`s/Cam features etc. Then I will make a new serie called H*** (handycam) or D *** (digital tv)
Posted by mcrosser
nice Stef! mmmm I was writing about my new model, but then some trouble came up with internet explorer and the window closed! it makes me soo angry!, well I'll just summ it up now, I'm too tired to write all that again. well, here goes
this is a super swivel phone equiped with three touch screens. the main one is 2.5'' CIF ultra bright TFT 16 million color display. the other two are 128x160 TFT 65K colors.
Playstation mode:
you rotate all three screens to operate. for many games, it support ALOT of memory. M2 and memory stick Pro Duo are supported, it has two slots, so you can use one of each simultaneously.
Camera:
it's equiped with a 7megapixel CCD sensor, xenon flash, cybershot interface and most of the abilities of recent cyber-shot products, like auto-focus, smart digital zoom, many white balance options, Best Pic technology and image stabilizer. It records video at VGA resolution, 30fps and HD quality. you can rotate the screen to shot pics or videos vertically, so you can still have a firm grip.
Media Player:
supports all common formats and also introduces the Atrac3plus from Sony. You can use the media player with the screens rotated and watch video fullscreen. On the camera side there are two twin speakers that deliver nice bass.
Text imput:
there are three ways for text imput: use the stylus for hand writing, the two side screens for numeric keypad and options, or use the qwerty keybord that is drawn on the two screens, half each. this last method is fully customizable, you can change to qwertz or any alguaje including japaneese, etc.
Well, the specs:
Symbian UIQ 3.0
Walkman music player
Cybershot camera interface and features
playstation game console support.
super swivel design
direct internet, activity menu and media player buttons
wifi, buetooth 2.0 and infrared
USB 2.0 full speed mass storage
7.0 megapixel camera with autofocus
M2 (up to 1GB) and Memory stick Pro Duo (up to 2GB) supported simultaneously
Flight mode
twin speakers
MegaBass and StereoWidening
A2DP bluetooth support
well other thing I can't think of are supported too
seems a bit imposible to make this device but I've got most of the mecanisms figured out. took me about 4 hours to draw all this.
@Stef, I see you take a picture of you artwork, I use a scanner, it comes out very sharp, but at the moment of rezising it looks blurry and washed out. well tell me how you like/dislike my model ?
Posted by Stef
Very cool desing and maybe possible too. Somewhere in 2007/2008 or so. And about my pics, i`ve a scanner only he isn`t working!
The last pic of my was taken by a Olympus 5 megapixel camera and the other with my own SE S700i!! Lol, back to the point:
I will make, just like Mcrosser, a new line of phones! To begin with the D*** series for mobile tv. I think SE is a great company with many beautiful phones only the`re a little behind Nokia, Samsung and BenQSiemens that already have 1 or 2 mobile tv phones! So SE: `It`s time to rock!`
PS I was wondering why you put 2 brands in one device? Walkman and Cybershot ...I like it. But will SE do something like this??
@mcrosser: Maybe you could help me, or make sketches of my idea and make a real `real` SE that is possible to produce!? I think SE needs a TV phone to stay leader in mobile phones. I don`t know but probably is SE watching!!
Greets Stef
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Posted by shaliron
@mcrosser
Great dream design! If only it were possible to make one of those today! Alas it is only a 'concept' model... could you imagine the huge battery drain with three screens, 7mp camera...
Posted by JK
@ designers!!
What about something like the Siemens SK65 design??? That would work...
Posted by Stef
@shaliron: I think you`re right about the battery but don`t you think SE/Nokia/Moto and other have invent a new type of battery? I think in 2008/2009 we will find superbatteries in phones! But i`m only guessing!
Special for mcrosser: The new Sony Ericsson D700i
An digital mobile tv with stereo speakers and 4 GB memory to safe movie/tv programs or radio..! Its a swiffle desing but not like the S700 or W900. It`s a candybar with a rotating screen:
As you can see there are 2 buttons on the left side of the phone, these are for music (next song), video (backward-forward), tv (next program) and radio (other frequentie) So..! What do U think!?
Greets Stef
Posted by FreekaleeK
Dude, I think your both amazing, I love your work, it almost excites me to look at your scetches, and how amazing they are, keep up the good work dudes!
Peace Out
Posted by Stef
Hii, i`ve already my new sketches, here they are:
Greets Stef
Posted by mcrosser
wow Stef! we're getting profesional
OK I think I have an idea for a Handycam mobile. will post soon. cheers
Posted by mcrosser
that's about what I had in mind, not exactly proud of it, but as I said before 'It'll get better with time I hope' well the most interesting thing is that it has 2.0 megapixel camera with 6x OPTICAL zoom, I think that barrel form lens allows for such zoom jeje. It has 4 light bulbs and a laser pointer below the barrel. on the other side there's an antenna, that's for the TV function. I'm thinking on an accesory that allows to make your cable TV wireless, via bluetooth or maybe wifi, so no need for an antenna in the future and you can watch TV in most places of you home. well that's all I came up with, I have to go out now. cheers
Posted by pow1990
I am very impressed at both ur designs, sony should take them into concideration!
Posted by mcrosser
that's my idea for the wireless 'cable' TV for mobile devices.
Posted by Stef
I really like the design of your Handycam phone.. only I don`t think it`s very clever to put and super video functionality and an great TV function in one device.
As I mentioned before with your Cybershot/Walkman phone. You should make phones like K750/W800. They are identic in hardware, but diffrent in software. I thing a H*** series for video and an D*** ( or other lettre) for tv phones. I just suggesting! Greetzz