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max_wedge
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Posted: 2005-07-02 14:55
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I read on www.freedominput.com that SE have pulled out of the pda market. Does anyone know if that's true or not?

No P1000? No SE smartphone? Surely not.

Someone please tell me they know for sure what's going on...
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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:25
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It says they have withdrawn from the PDA market, not the smartphone market.

P1000 is not a PDA, its a smartphone

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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:28
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@numb, which pda did make?
T230 >> T610 >> Ngage QD >> N73 >> N85 >> Omnia HD >> And countless other review units
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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:31
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Actually, I understand that fine point. But to my knowledge, SonyEricsson's only pda's are phones.....?

Correct me if I'm wrong. If SE have no stand alone pda, then it would be nonsense for someone to say SE are pulling out of the pda market, and not mean the smartphone market.

Since I think it's generally agreed, that a smartphone is a PDA device, I am still curious as to just what the hell freedominput are going on about.

Thanks whizzkid


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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:33
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Let's hope someones misquoted them.
Didn't Sony give up on PDA's ages ago?
I can't imagine SE giving up on the PXXX smartphone.
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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:35
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I'm hopin' you're right man...
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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:35
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WTF!! Many are awaiting the P1000.
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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:36
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A smartphone is not a PDA
Its a phone with PDA functions

This may be considered nitpicking, but there are fine differences between the categories, and a P910 are not a PDA, its a smartphone.

I agree it seems like a stupid statement from freedominput, what I think they mean is just that S//E gave up on the PDA market to begin with and concentrated on their smartphones instead.


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Posted: 2005-07-02 15:40
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@numb, I certainly agree, and I never said a smartphone and a pda are the same thing.

However PDA functions (including the factor of having an os that developers can create software for) are an integral part of what a smartphone is. A smartphone is a phone with a pda built in, or is my read of the last ten years of mobile phone and pda convergence completely wrong?

Certainly a pda is not necessarily a smartphone, but I would sorta think we could take that for granted...
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Posted: 2005-07-02 16:40
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Er...off topic. What can a pda do which a latest smartphone can't? I guess almost all pda features have been successfully implemented in smartphones or rather pda phones..do correct if wrong..
T230 >> T610 >> Ngage QD >> N73 >> N85 >> Omnia HD >> And countless other review units
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Posted: 2005-07-02 16:48
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@whizzkid, I believe you are correct. A prime example are the xda phones. They are a phone based on a pre-existing pda platform. The xda's are almost indistinguishable from a standalone pocketpc (other than the fact they include a phone).
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Posted: 2005-07-02 16:49
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#max_wedge and whizzkid

Youre absolutely right in everything you write, its just when the industry categorize them they are distinquised between Smartphones and PDA's

Today PDA's are mainly different in the way that they are (usually) not phones, and have stronger cpu's. There are also differences in the operating systems running on Pocket PC's and smartphones based on Windows mobile for instance. Sure, its getting more and more difficult to find any differences, but in general a smartphone is weaker.

You are free to call your P910 a PDA, I still call it a Smartphone


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Posted: 2005-07-02 17:04
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I've never come across that distinction as such, but I'm a computer tech not phone tech so I wouldn't know

I guess if you think about it, not all smartphones come from pre-existing pda's.

I still think it's a strange thing for freedominput to say, but you may be right they may mean that se never took up the pda market...

I probably shouldn't be paying any attention to their badly worded sales pitch

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Posted: 2005-07-02 18:42
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"Mobile Phone products are set to absorb and replace the widely used Pocket PCs and PDAs. The battle starts in earnest in 2005 Sony-Ericsson have already withdrawn from the PDA market." "www.freedominput.com ...

Ericsson made PDAs ...
Sony made PDAs ...
SE never made PDAs in the first place ...
SE makes "Mobile Phone products" not PDAs ...

P-series is a phone with PDA functions, not a PDA with phone features, meaning it is a phone with a more flexible OS.
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Posted: 2005-07-02 19:21
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Correct me if I'm wrong but are they not refering to the Sony Clie range?

It has been one of Sony's ( and ) philosophies that the PDA will eventually evolve into the Smartphone, so for them to go back on that simply doesn't add up.

Don't worry, we'll get our Smartphone (code named Hermione), one has 'apparently' already been spotted and there's enough info about it out there, and on here.

It was going to be showcased at CommunicAsia but they put it back to September.
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