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orol
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Posted: 2004-09-19 23:17
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hm if nokia phones are dumb? what about that superb features like 510 phone numbers (not contacts), searching throught the contact with one letter? what a pleasure, ehm repeating events, hm hm what's that good for? "my friends" over wap gprs profile, why not? and one can store up to 6 notes on the phone, wow, what an advantage

p.s. he should use nokia content copier

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Posted: 2004-09-20 00:07
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On 2004-09-19 23:17:35, orol wrote:
hm if nokia phones are dumb? what about that superb features like 510 phone numbers (not contacts), searching throught the contact with one letter? what a pleasure, ehm repeating events, hm hm what's that good for? "my friends" over wap gprs profile, why not? and one can store up to 6 notes on the phone, wow, what an advantage

p.s. he should use nokia content copier

[ This Message was edited by: orol on 2004-09-19 22:18 ]




Or he could buy a Sony Ericson T610 or P900 and do it with the inbuilt free of charge systems that come as standard with SE phones couldnt he!!!! :-0 the question is not "if" it's "why" surely! :-0

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Posted: 2004-09-20 08:25
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@nitro fan

well using a cable is plain and simple to me and if you are living in asia a nokia cable there just cost brit pennies and the data suite cd comes with it. i really don't like using BT which is high tech, only IR which to me is better. i do not use it especially when i am outdoors for my phone may contract a virus. a friend of mine's 3650 got a virus for he always has his BT on.

oh well why bother when i gave my t616 to my wife and i downgraded to a mid class LG phone which is bug free. i love this phone... off to howard forums now.

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Posted: 2004-09-20 08:42
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are u gonna copy entire phonebook everyday? don't think so. Just connect your cable and copy. so what is the big issue?

but SE limitation of 500 numbers and searching by single character (basic functionality which u use everyday) - this is what i call major deficiencies.


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Posted: 2004-09-20 11:33
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On 2004-09-20 08:42:31, mib1800 wrote:
are u gonna copy entire phonebook everyday? don't think so. Just connect your cable and copy. so what is the big issue?

but SE limitation of 500 numbers and searching by single character (basic functionality which u use everyday) - this is what i call major deficiencies.





I see no limit to 500 numbers on my P900 in fact I have over 500 contacts most of which have at least three numbers so lets say I have some 1200 numbers in my P900! I can search all 500 plus contacts using multiple characters or any criteria I can write in multiple fields!
Yet as a Sony Ericsson P900 owner I still do not have to resort to using a PC to perform such a basic function as moving all contacts from one phone to another no matter how frequently or infrequently I choose to do it!
So please, please, please show me how it is easier / more superior with a Nokia?

I have no hatred of Nokia phones indeed I have been for many years a happy Nokia owner and still use an 8210 as my pub phone (nice and small and simple to use when drunk!)

I simply pointed out what is clearly a glaring error in the functionality of the software used in the 6600 & 7160 symbian phones Nokia produce and I stand by the claim it is pathetic that a company such as Nokia ruin was is an “OK” device by such a glaring omission as bulk contact transfer without the need for a PC, lets also not forget this is a forum populated mainly by SE fans and as such Nokia are unlikely to get as warm a reception when their offerings are flawed.
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Posted: 2004-09-20 11:37
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On 2004-09-20 08:25:53, d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z wrote:
@nitro fan

well using a cable is plain and simple to me and if you are living in asia a nokia cable there just cost brit pennies and the data suite cd comes with it. i really don't like using BT which is high tech, only IR which to me is better. i do not use it especially when i am outdoors for my phone may contract a virus. a friend of mine's 3650 got a virus for he always has his BT on.

oh well why bother when i gave my t616 to my wife and i downgraded to a mid class LG phone which is bug free. i love this phone... off to howard forums now.

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[ This Message was edited by: d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z on 2004-09-20 07:29 ]



I wish you well and hope you have a more consistent view on "simplicity" there, I do not view Cable PC and Data Suite as "simplicity" but perhaps the word has a different meaning in Asia!
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to nitro fan :

i'm refering to SE non-smartphone which has 500 contacts and search limitation.

if u r refering to P900, then SE should shoot themselves if it does not support this as the P900 cost something like 2 to 3 times the price of 6600.

imo, u r nit-picking. u can send one contact at a time thru BT with 7610/6600 which should be sufficient for normal business card exchange.

like i said before, how often do u transfer entire phonebook?

if u really need this capability then u can get the SmartVcard software which allow u to transfer using BT your entire phonebook/calendar.



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Posted: 2004-09-20 18:39
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I wish you well and hope you have a more consistent view on "simplicity" there, I do not view Cable PC and Data Suite as "simplicity" but perhaps the word has a different meaning in Asia!



to me mate that is plain and simple insted of using BT. just like connecting the charger to my phone. so long!

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in my honest opinion this debate has decended into major nit picking, picking on the slightest thing to discredit the nokia 6600 etc.

Both companies are not perfect, SE may have a feature to enable sending who phonebooks (one that i am sure we all use everyday (sarcasm). But nokia have benifits too. I am sure your friend will be much happier than u when it comes to get more software for the phone. Even the P900 has a very poor amount of software developed for it. S60 phones however have an abundance of apps available.

When you compare the 6600 to a SE phone in the same price bracket like the T630 or even K700i there really is no contest. One is a smartphone using S60 op system and the other is a phone trying to be smart (K700i got a better cam than 6600 granted).

I am a fan of SE, and have T630, K700i and P900 but even i can see that the 6600 is a decent phone and is my current phone along with the P900. S60 op system is just the thing most companies etc are concentrating on, and with SE bringing out phones like P910 then nokia and the S60 are getting the advantage.

In closing i dont think u can compare the likes of the 6600 with the T630's etc. Also price wise u couldnt compare to a Pxxx. Face it SE dont have anything to rival the adaptability of the S60 devices at the same price.

I wish we could stop nit picking and slagging off other brands. Why bother with "Blokia sucks etc" half the time its just coz u own SE and not nokia. Nokia people are the same. The sensible ones out there will use both and get a phone that suits there needs.

Rant Over. Hope your all ok
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Posted: 2004-09-21 09:17
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On 2004-09-20 15:25:20, mib1800 wrote:
to nitro fan :

i'm refering to SE non-smartphone which has 500 contacts and search limitation.

if u r refering to P900, then SE should shoot themselves if it does not support this as the P900 cost something like 2 to 3 times the price of 6600.

imo, u r nit-picking. u can send one contact at a time thru BT with 7610/6600 which should be sufficient for normal business card exchange.

like i said before, how often do u transfer entire phonebook?

if u really need this capability then u can get the SmartVcard software which allow u to transfer using BT your entire phonebook/calendar.


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I think my original point was quite clear I was pointing out that to upgrade from one "Nokia smart phone 6600" to another "nokia smartphone 7610" it is impossible to transfer all the contacts in one go via BT. In my opinion that is an oversight by Nokia, that was all!

I expect my P900 to do all this of course but that is why I spent a ggod deal of time deciding what my requirement for a phone was before rushing out and buy the first offering my favourite manufacturer threw at me without question!
But to try and tell me installing two loads sw buying an additional lead and sysnchronising tow devices witha pc is simpler than sitting on the sofa and being able to move all my contacts from my old phone to my new one in one simple easy action is clearly rubbish! nit picking ? I think not but please prove me wrong if it means that much to you all you will have a hard time convincing me though guys!
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i didnt mean to offend m8, just these things always turn into a lets slag off other phones debate.

In answer to your question i think it is a minor oversight by nokia yes but not one that bothers many people imho.

The easiest way i know of transfering all contacts would be to use something like this contacts manage app http://personal.inet.fi/private/riihimaki/s60/pbktrans.html

Its freeware so there is no cost involved and it works over BT so no need for a cable.

Let me know if this helps
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ok people well to tell you you cant connect a 6600 to a freakin calbe.Its has to be done via bluetooth so there we go a first set back.
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Posted: 2004-09-21 21:11
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On 2004-09-20 15:25:20, mib1800 wrote:
but SE limitation of 500 numbers and searching by single character (basic functionality which u use everyday) - this is what i call major deficiencies.



Hmm... not true.. SE & Ericsson phones have the possiblity to search with more than one letter in the phonebook and has had that for a long time. To state otherwise is pure lies. Just go to the phonebook and select call contact... you can enter as many chars as you want.

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Posted: 2004-09-23 15:18
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On 2004-09-21 16:40:51, lam7r wrote:
i didnt mean to offend m8, just these things always turn into a lets slag off other phones debate.

In answer to your question i think it is a minor oversight by nokia yes but not one that bothers many people imho.

The easiest way i know of transfering all contacts would be to use something like this contacts manage app http://personal.inet.fi/private/riihimaki/s60/pbktrans.html

Its freeware so there is no cost involved and it works over BT so no need for a cable.

Let me know if this helps



@lam7r
Hi Mate hi and I was not trying to have a go at you either, thanks for the link I was I had asked at the time instead of watching my Bus Partner wasting 3 hours copying all his contacts across one by one! but as his new phone has a data cable I have synched him with outlook so will not be a problem in future! I hope ! People seem to take any kind critisium of "their " brand very personally as long as they feel this way the munufacturers can run rings around them I only buy on features and if anyone other tha SE offers a better package for me in the future I will spend my money with them but at the moment SE seem to give me just what I want! Well done SE!
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Posted: 2004-09-24 07:41
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nitrofan:

agreed with u here to a point. most people would be defensive on issues related to what they owned. however, i disagreed with your over-the-top topic heading (a.k.a bashing for sake of bashing)

The issue here is not that it cannot do the function you want but just not in the way u want. Furthermore, it is a one function that most people would not need on a daily basis.

i give you one example in which your kind of topic heading is justifiable ==> the exclusion of T9 text input in SE P800.
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