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apj30
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Posted: 2004-09-06 13:43
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OK I need to vent about just how appallingly bad the service is at the Carphone Warehouse.

Has anybody ever thought that they should have an express-lane in their stores a bit like they do in McDonalds??

i.e. for customers who actually:

1) KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT
2) KNOW WHAT PRODUCT / SERVICE THEY WANT
3) ACTUALLY HAVE THE MEANS TO PAY

After trying several times to call them without anyone picking up the phone (but after I'd gone through the automated menu system so was being charged for the call), I drove to the Greenford CW at the weekend (it's a service centre, I went to get my K700i upgraded to R2L001).

After queueing for half an hour (no exaggeration) I spoke to a chap and explained that I wanted a firmware upgrade.

I then had to explain to him what firmware was.

He then needed to see the phone (why?)

He then took the back off the phone, took the battery out of the phone (without turning it off) and removed the SIM.

He then went into the back and came out about 5 minutes later - I assumed the update had been carried out but he said that they would get back to me in about a week when the phone was ready!

I laughed and explained that the update only took a couple of minutes and no way was I prepared to wait that long.

He gave me the phone back and then tried to sell me on that Talk Talk plan at which point I walked out of the store.

I went back again mid-week, this time I had to queue for 50 minutes before being seen this time they took the phone and asked me to return a couple of hours later which I did and following which I'm pleased to report that the update had been carried out successfully.

But why do the CW make such a drama out of every single customer enquiry they receive?

Am I the only person who goes in and says "this is what I want, here's the money, thank you very much" - why do the sales assistants spend half the time that they are with the customer on the phone, and then end up passing the phone to the customer, and then disappearing into the back...

Deep breaths. Vent over.

But CW... you suck.

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methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2004-09-06 13:52
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Carphone warehouse, by most accounts, arent as bad as the likes of The Missing Link and Phones 4 Poo, if you dig around you will find some real horror stories! Maybe you just got served by a thicko, or maybe he was just new. At any rate, he will know for the next time and its just bad luck it was you who caught him out.
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absinthebri
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Posted: 2004-09-06 13:55
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No one's making a drama out of it except you. They're trying to provide you with a service and all you're doing is complaining. If you don't like their standard of service, don't use them again. I've never had anything but EXCELLENT service from CPW.

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mixin
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Posted: 2004-09-06 13:57
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I have gotta say that CPW are the best phone shop i've dealt with, and do seem to know more about what they are talking about than others
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Posted: 2004-09-06 13:58
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@absinthebri: Thats a bit harsh! Their customer service did fail him, surely he has the right to air his grievances.
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:00
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I don't mind CPW. Very friendly staff but I did go in one last week to ask them about fiwmware and had to explain what it was.
(it wasn't a service centre but just wondered).
I beat your week.

I was told that I they had to send it back to the manifactures and could take up to a month.

I said no thanks and had it done within the hour on Saturday.

Still would class it as one of the good ones

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DeLa
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:02
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Because customers that know exactly what they want and especially if it is a FW upgrade are a rare breed.
I think the number of people that actually knows that there is such a thing as firmware in a phone and that it can be upgraded and that then problems may be solved and that it takes 15mins max are about ,5% of the customers.

So they would have to put "high-qualified" employees in their stores to 99,5% of their time serve plain customers looking for a phone that can do this and that and looks like that or who have a problem that each member of Esato can sort out immediately.

(It's the same everywhere. Well informed salespeople or supportpeople are scarce. That's why I always go back to the same store for my houshould equipment: I went there for the first time to buy an alarm clock and they actually could explain relevant differences between simple alarm-clocks. Imagine taking time for a customer that wants to choose between 5 different clocks of only €25 max ). I went back there for all my other (much more substantial) equipment. I once went to another shop because they seemed cheaper and then I was thrown back in the world of ignorant salespeople that can not even be bothered to read the product sheets sticked onto the products in the show room. I hurried back to that one shop and paid 7% extra with a smile because they sold me what I needed instead of what I wanted. ----Sorry for the lenghty off-topic but wanted to make my point clear...)
absinthebri
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:04
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Why vent? Why not email their CE and complain? Why go in on a weekend and then complain about queues? Why expect a walk in upgrade service? Why buy a phone that's a beta release? I don't know, you tell me...

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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:12
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Theres always one rotten egg who spoils a good thread...

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buckle247
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:13
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On 2004-09-06 14:04:18, absinthebri wrote:
Why vent?
To let People know how you feel about them.

Why not email their CE and complain?
Whos CE? Emailing CW will have little effect, unless it is a major problem you are complaining about.

Why go in on a weekend and then complain about queues?
Because they should have the extra staff to help solve issues. I have been in a CW before, it was a very busy day and only 2 people were working there. They can't always get extra staff due to not enough tills etc for them to work on, but a 30min que is unaccpetable, let alone a 50 min que.

Why expect a walk in upgrade service?
Because that is what it should be. Takes less than 30mins to do, so why should you have to wait a week for it to be done.

Why buy a phone that's a beta release?
The k700 software isn't a beta release. The beta release used the z1010 software, which is why it had features like copy to external memory which is possible on the z1010.

I don't know, you tell me...



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absinthebri
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:23
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@buckle - You're right. I actually get infuriated too when I can't walk in to a shop at any hour of my choosing, be attended to instantly and demand an unnecessary service free while I wait. Am I unreasonable?

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apj30
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:24
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On 2004-09-06 14:04:18, absinthebri wrote:
Why vent? Why not email their CE and complain? Why go in on a weekend and then complain about queues? Why expect a walk in upgrade service? Why buy a phone that's a beta release? I don't know, you tell me...



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Erm.. isn't that the whole point of a discussion forum? To discuss things? You give the impression that I am less entitled than you to express my views and I don't really think that is the case.

Perhaps you work for the Carphone Warehouse; why not show one of your middle-managers your valiant responses to my message and I'm sure you'll be made Employee of the Month.

Or get another star on your namebadge.
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:27
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On 2004-09-06 14:23:50, absinthebri wrote:
@buckle - You're right. I actually get infuriated too when I can't walk in to a shop at any hour of my choosing, be attended to instantly and demand an unnecessary service free while I wait. Am I unreasonable?



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That isn't what i said. I am just pointing out that having to wait 30-50mins to be served is stupid. I expect to be served within 10mins, any longer than that is bad service.
methylated_spirit
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:27
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@apj30: apologies on behalf of absinthebri We arent all obtuse and purposefully confrontational

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apj30
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Posted: 2004-09-06 14:29
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On 2004-09-06 13:52:09, methylated_spirit wrote:
Carphone warehouse, by most accounts, arent as bad as the likes of The Missing Link and Phones 4 Poo, if you dig around you will find some real horror stories!


I agree. In all fairness, over the years most of my phone upgrades have come via the CW and I wouldn't really consider going elsewhere for a new handset.

My real issue was with the follow-up service.

Their constant failure to answer the telephone (so I could book an appointment), my having to make three car journeys and total waiting time of > 2 hours in the shop seems excessive for a 5 minute firmware update.
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