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dazmcc
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:18
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im after a GPRS enabled 'smartphone' to replace my sony clie,whats the best thing out CURRENTLY?

ive been looking at the motorola accompli 008,and the handspring treo so far,any better ideas?

do any of you use these or similar devices?any recommendations?

any advice is greatly appreciated

mdkia
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:29
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dazmcc >
Please do NOT buy the Accompli008 ...I bought it and used it only 2 weeks ...after that I sold it immediately! It's not possible to use a moby without the keypad like that one!
Everytime you have to use 2 hands to use it ...even to open it!


Better to buy an iPAQ Bluetooth enabled to use it with your T68i!
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:33
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Have a look at these and see if you like any
Siemens SX45
Sagem WA3050
Mitsubishi trium mondo
Siemens loox
O2 XDA
Pogo

The chioce is yours, there are a few around at the moment
dazmcc
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:34
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cheers mdkia

what did you replace it with?

i want an all in one device cos im fed up of carting about my t68,clie+mp3,etc

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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:37
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Then go for the Pogo or the Siemens, they both play mp3's, I like the Pogo, good size screen
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:40
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fingers--are these GPRS?cheers
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:45
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Um dunno actaully, I'll check it out and get back to you
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:47
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The siemens, O2 and Mitsi are but not sure about the pogo, and if you look at gprs devices on expansys.com there are a couple of others coming soon. Pogo is gprs too, just checked it out on the carphone warehouse site, there's a link to the Pogo minisite, looks cool

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mdkia
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Posted: 2002-06-06 15:59
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dazmcc >
I replaced it with a t68 and Bluetooth iPAQ, I don't like to have everything on only one device ...I had also once a 9110i ...but it was not comfortable to carry it with me when I only needed the moby functions.
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dazmcc
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Posted: 2002-06-06 16:09
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i guess that makes sense,but ill still have t68 for evenings/weekends etc when nothing else is needed.

i think the ipaq is gorgeous but its about £550 here and has alot of features i dont need

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Posted: 2002-06-06 16:20
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On 2002-06-06 15:29, mdkia wrote:
dazmcc >
Please do NOT buy the Accompli008 ...
Everytime you have to use 2 hands to use it ...even to open it!



mdkia, I think you are a bit unfair ... I for my part quite liked the 008, and with the scroll wheel on the side it's possible to operate it, call etc, with one hand (it's just not terribly convenient...) And at least I could open it with one hand + it has Java

/H

The Motorola phone software (GUI) engineers at Motorola will be the first against the wall when the great revolution comes! Why waste such awfull software on othervise technicly quite good devices as (M) does?
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Posted: 2002-06-06 16:24
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oblomov>

do you have the 008 then?it seems the best on paper for my needs without too much money,i know its been discontinued but my local store has one saved for me until i make up my mind.

itll cost me about £160 as well which is a pretty good price i think....

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Posted: 2002-06-06 16:27
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dazmcc >
you can find cheaper iPAQs on the net, maybe a 3760 and you could buy a Bluetooth Jacket ...i.e. you can find here www.flca.it the 3760 for 550 euro.

Oblomov >
ok, it has java, but did you tried any java applications on it ...they're really unbelivable slooooooooooow ...not usable IMHO! ...
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Posted: 2002-06-06 16:39
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Hmm,

I'm don't think the POGO is GPRS. It is normal GSM, but it uses a proprietary compression algorithm to reduce the size of the file before it is sent. It is then uncompressed on the handset. This gives the effect of browsing the real internet at dial-up speeds. They do look quite nice - I just worry about their long term future. The service relies on their server (does the compression bit) being available. I can see the big networks steamrollering POGO with their 3G stuff. What would be interesting is if POGO licenced their compression technology to the 3G networks. If the decompression algorithm is quick enough we may be able to get good video streaming. Who knows.

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Posted: 2002-06-06 16:41
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ok, it has java, but did you tried any java applications on it ...they're really unbelivable slooooooooooow ...not usable IMHO! ...




I didn't say it was perfect
A trick however is to turn of the phone part when you use a java applet, then it is faster, once again, not convenient but workable...
The 008, just as the scraped 009 (clamshell, color, built in keyboard, GPRS) is/was quite underpowered. I think I remember that (M) reused parts developed for other devices, to save money I suppose. I do not think that it is a bad device, but personally do I prefer a nice modern phone (T68) with a separate PDA (m515 in my case) these should ideally be connected by

No I don't have a Accompli 008 or 009, I just used them at Motorola, and they were WAY nicer than the T260/T250 I also had to use!

/H
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