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Going to sell my T68i |
errorken
Joined: May 22, 2002
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Well, maybe not worth mentioning, but I'm doing it anyway because it could be interesting for people wanting to buy a T68i (especially if they had a Nokia).
Ok,I have my T68i for over a week now, and I put it for sale yesterday. I'm not the type that sells his phone every 2 months. And I really tougth very much about it before I bougth the T68i. Mostly I do about 1.5 year with a phone. So why not the T68i ?
Well, for starters I had a Nokia 8850 before this one, wich I was not planning to sell (I loved it) , but, there where problems with the lcd. Not real technical problems (like bad pixels etc) but a more structural problem, its a wel known problem for the 8850. The display is not soldered, its "plugged in" and the pluging system is not good, after certains months of use the lcd may move. Wich result in the displaying doing strange etc, besides that, the phone also crashed when the network connection dropped while typing an sms. The volume for the ringtones at volume 5 was as loud as on volume 4 (no difference). So for this reasons I sold it.
The only alternative for me was buying again a new 8850, but this I couldnt do , because the lcd problems would eventually rise again. The other alternative was the 8910, but I didnt like the design, neither the price (I'm not interested in paying extra for a titanium cover). So the only decent alternative was the T68i.
From my short experience I can say that the T68i defeats my old 8850 on any front, it weighs less, doesnt crash (as far as I can tell) the reception is better, the call quality is certainly better, the menu is as super as the Nokia menu, it has like 700kb free shared resident memory,I just love the stick control, its almost as fancy looking as the 8850 espcially with the blue keypad, it has posiblity for themes...and much more. Almost to good to be true. So why sell it then ?
Well, I couldnt adapt to the following things, maybe they seem irrelevant, but to me there very important;
- The damn blinking led; I cant place the phone near my bed, since turning the phone on his front wont cover the led 100% so I need to place it somewhere further. I just cant get sleep when this is blinking...maybe it is a psycholigical problem.... but if you can control the stupid led in ringtones, they could have build an option to turn it off (thats the most frustrating part)
- The clock screensaver, when it is on, your phone is like in stanby mode, you cant see anything (not the reception level, not the battery status...nothing) if you have a fancy background, its useless, because you wont see it. Most people have a watch to see the hour, and I dislike the feeling spended 600 for looking at a watch:) if I would see my background I wouldnt have any problem.
- The display, the colours on the display are very...low quality if you ask me (probably due the 256colors) but ok, we have colors, we should be hapy ! But thats not it, the display is also VERY dark. If the backligth goes out you dont see a thing. If my old nokia was laying on my desk, a quick look on it would reveal any misted calls or messages, now I have to pick up the phone turn it into the ligth and see. Even if I want to use the wonderfull clock, its useless since I can see the time, a button to quick enable the backligth is also not available.
- The screensaver, this one is a really fancy feature, but is completly useless, it only shows it for 5 seconds and then the wonderfull clock appears, so its frustrating having such a nice feature but you cant use it !
- Messy software, I spend 3 days gathering all the software I need to adjust my phone (phonebook,themes,ringtones...) now I still have problems with the phonebook software (it crashes) And I cant transfer ringtones and themes back from the phone to the pc. with my Nokia I had 1 program (logomanger) wich would do it all, it even never crashed (while it was not even written by nokia).
- I dont have a "real button" to show the profiles, ok, I created a link on the "my shortcuts" so moving the stick to the left for 2 secs would bring up the profiles, but still I miss a real button with only that specific function.
- options; also this is not a reason for selling it , but to me there not important and dont offer "more" value to the phone. for instance I dont use; bluetooth,gprs,wap,irda I could do well without them.
So after I sold it, I'm going to wait until the new 7210 arrives and see what I can do with it, since its a Nokia it probably wont have this things mentioned above, and if it has, I probably buy a T68i again:)
(maybe se will adjust some of these things in the next firmware upgrade, but if they dont, I wont be able to sell my phone without making big loss, since its only 4days old now...) | |
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allexdos
Joined: Feb 11, 2002
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A very detailed descrption of your criticisms for the T68i! Well done, I award you a 1rst class!! |
jucame
Joined: Nov 30, 2001
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Doctor says:you have a big problem with your new girlfriend (Ericsson) go back to your old lady and ask her to forgive you and if that happens then be happy with her again (Nokia) 
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decoy7
Joined: Feb 06, 2002
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good constructive list, i've had a go at replying as i had the same phone before and had to adjust as i found the plusses outweighed the minuses for me.
- The damn blinking led
definitely agree with this, it's been an Ericsson thing for a long while now, high time they fixed that up and gave the option to turn it off.
while we're on the subject of 'while your sleeping' the next step in phone making should include designing silent buttons, you'd be surprised how much noise most phones make while using them late at night to write an sms...noisy for the person sleeping next to you anyway.
- The clock screensaver
the reason for this is due to it being a screensaver, which is designed to save battery power and prolong screen use - if you had the option of turning this off you'd end up with alot of phones requiring new lcd screens much early than the life expectancy of the phone. not practical but definitely true and i imagine this will be the case on all colour handsets - Samsung will have the upper hand in this with their dual display - now that thing makes sense...hmmm!
- The display, the colours on the display are very...low quality
i would put this down to it being colour and say it's a downside to having a colour lcd - for example the same can be said of Palm's m505 handset - it's colour which means the battery power lasts much less than it's mono equivalent and when the backlight is off it's difficult to see the display.
- Messy software
with the many OS platforms around there's bound to be some issues - mine worked fine first time - luck of the draw.
- I dont have a "real button" to show the profiles
this is really a 'i prefer the way Nokia did this' complaint, which i myself had but had to forego due to needing the things you dont use - wap, bluetooth + 500 number phone book capacity.
anyway, how much you selling for??? |
errorken
Joined: May 22, 2002
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About the power & display life:
Yes, I imagined some would use this as an argument
but if se can't produce a mobile phone wich stays 5-7 days standby with no clock-saver, then maybe they should forget the color display. now you have a color display, but you dont see it, whats the use then ? Its like having a super car but only be allowed to drive like 20km per day with it
The life expectancy ; yes, thats true, but I really doubt the clocksaver will make much difference. And afterall, why would the color display last less long then a b/w one ? ...
About the selling price;
I dont know where your from, but in belgium the shop price for a T68i +DLR11 is +/- 640 (+/- 590 for the phone and 50 for the dlr11) I'm selling it for 580. |
decoy7
Joined: Feb 06, 2002
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"if se can't produce a mobile phone which stays 5-7 days standby with no clock-saver, then maybe they should forget the color display"
when you get the Nokia 7210 and it's exaclty the same scenario then i'll expect you to revert back to 2 tone displays as this is just part and parcel of having a colour display no matter what device it's on or who makes it.
"now you have a color display, but you dont see it, whats the use then ? Its like having a super car but only be allowed to drive like 20km per day with it
The life expectancy ; yes, thats true, but I really doubt the clocksaver will make much difference. And afterall, why would the color display last less long then a b/w one ?"
because it's a colour screen thats how they work, all colour screens have a low life expectancy if they're constantly on - which is one of the reasons computers have screen savers - and it's also why they are called 'screen' 'savers' - they are to save the screen.
i'm from the UK, 580 equals just over £370 (http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi) which is not a great bargain but a fair price.
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jack078
Joined: Mar 10, 2002
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in any case, T68 still better than those, 8890, 8850, motorola V60, 66, 70.......
tho I am waiting for samsung ones |
anas
Joined: May 29, 2002
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hi errorken
i really dont recommend you to sell your t68i
I was like u waiting for 7210 until i compared the two phones
and the sony ericsson is smaller, better in features, have voice control and voice recorder, and much more.
the 7210 is better than the t68i in: color(4096 colors), j2me, higher memory and express on covers, and the t68i is better than the 7210 in anything else.
thank u
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DarthVader
Joined: May 30, 2002
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From: Sweden
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....I think your gonna miss it, theres nothing like it out ther right now! |
x-daemon
Joined: May 02, 2002
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don't care about j2me, caouse i believe in the next version of os upgrade, probably they would be include this option.
however, the lcd resolution and the 256 colours.. hmmz..  bad..really bad.
guys, yesterday, i checked the samsung t100, brilliant colours!! and wonderfull sound (polyphonic).
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coolfighter
Joined: Jun 02, 2002
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Nokia guy
dont tel me about this shitty nokia phones
well NOKIA sucks and all there nokia phones
for me i have a celular shop and i know what good and bad
and besides u cant compare Nokia to Ericsson
ERICSSON HAVE = GPRS BLUETOOTH AND EVERYTHING
NOKIA HAVE NOTHING
I HAVE USING GPRS ABOUT A YEAR but nokia they just released a nokia phone with gprs
and what it always stop and if it turned off
it want turn back on
why it needs a software
and if u compare nokia to other phones
NOKIA MAKES HERE PHONE from plastic they easy to crash
and they only want to sell
if u see other phones example T68 have alluminuim back
but nokia plastic
and for the software inside
i prefer to use Ericsson 688 then 8310 or 6310
if u compare for that
and besides they release the same phones but with different style
but the inside the same
and what about 8850 =  this phone no way good for u
because if u see it can heart ur head from his signals
try to talk for 5 minutes with it
and u will see ur head and ur ear going to blow up
heh
well for me Nokia sucks and for everyone trust me dont get nokia phones
they sucks
and if ur saying that ur going back to 8850
the thing cause ur so Stupid and ur head doesnt work with then new tecnology thats why u see T68 i is difficult for u
cause u have a small brain to think smarter
and besides if u really want to sell ur T68 i --> i am the first one that i buy it from u cheater
go find a different place to play with it
Nokia 8850 heh <--- this shit |
errorken
Joined: May 22, 2002
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Decoy7:>
"when you get the Nokia 7210 and it's exaclty the same scenario then i'll expect you to revert back to 2 tone displays as this is just part and parcel of having a colour display no matter what device it's on or who makes it. "
yes, but I dont think I made myself clear. I mean;
I dont see why displaying a clock, or the original background image would mean a drastic decrease of battery cycle. The clock does also lit up some pixels, and rather a few since its a big one:)
also, SE could get rid of this by implementing this options;
a) making the option for inserting a screensaver of your own instead of the clock
b) the option to turn everything off (all standby things & screensavers)
c) the option of going into a safe mode by still displaying the background but for example; switching to 2tones° and/or decreasing the brigthness (wich would also result in less battery needs)
2tones ° >since the backligth goes out, you wont be able to see the colors anyway, so it can better switch to 2tone mode.
"because it's a colour screen thats how they work, all colour screens have a low life expectancy if they're constantly on - which is one of the reasons computers have screen savers - and it's also why they are called 'screen' 'savers' - they are to save the screen. "
hmmmm, I really dont see a reason why a color lcd would die much earlier then a 2tone one...maybe you have an article saying this ? I dont know, but I doubt it. And for your screen saver explanation;
Maybe you didnt notice, but screensavers also "move". most screen saver do lit up the lcd ! I think lcd life expectancy will not (much) increase by using a screen-saver. The origianl idea of a screen was used with older crt screens, if 1 image would stay long on the screen , the elektrons could damage the glass and 'burn' the image into it, wich you dont really want:) so by using a screensaver, they could prevent this, because the screensaver would create moving images all the time preventing one image to burn-in.
but like I said in the first paragraph, if like you say the lifecycle of the lcd would drop dramaticly by being on all the time, they could still implement options for the screensaver mode (like my propostitions; a b and c)
DarthVader:>
yep, I know, I'm gonna have to buy a shitty phone , until the 7210 comes out...
anas :>
ok, you have a point, the 7210 a BIT larger, BUT ! it lcd is also larger then from the T68-i !!! so I would rather have a phone that is like 0.6 cm larger but also has a bigger lcd !! its 128x128 ! the T68 is like 101x80 orso, so it justifies the smaller increase in heigth of the phone.
7210 :106 x 45 x 17,5 mm
T68-i:100 x 48 x 20 mm
so as you see, the 7210 is smaller and thiner and is only 6mm higher, but thats due the larger lcd....
I know it features are not compareable with the ones the T68-i has, but, I dont use anything like
- voice recorder
- voice control
- gprs,wap,irda,bluetooth
so thats no problem for me. The thing I see as important is for starters; the lcd, the polymorphic ringtones. And hopefully it wont have a clock screensaver:)
the covers are also a nice feature.
coolfighter>
lol:)
I'm _not_ planning to buy a 8850 .... Read my post... again:p
I know Nokia doesnt have all the features and can't compare to SE , but the point is, that I don't need those feature. I care more about a good lcd and some nice polymorphic tones then all the communication options. I dont bother the extra options in my t68-i but I do bother the things like the screensaver,the bad lcd, the led...
I know Nokia crashes, it always has:) but, I would rather have a phone that crashes 1x per month , then a phone who's lcd is in save mode all the time...I know that the T68-i is a super-phone compared to Nokia, but it has some disadvantages that really bother me.
And what you say about 'plastic' , my T68-i is like 100% plastic, the 8850 was from aluminium ...
To all:>
for example, yesterday I only noticed a SMS after 3hours, the phone was lying on my desk with the clock-screensaver on, there was nothing visible. before I went to sleep, the clock screensaver was still there, but I pressed 'C' just out of curiosity, and what did I see ? a "You have a message" !!!! Sorry, but...that just did it again...so SE is expecting from that I push C every 3 hours to see if an sms has been received ??? no thanks ! |
decoy7
Joined: Feb 06, 2002
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"for example, yesterday I only noticed a SMS after 3hours, the phone was lying on my desk with the clock-screensaver on, there was nothing visible. before I went to sleep, the clock screensaver was still there, but I pressed 'C' just out of curiosity, and what did I see ? a "You have a message" !!!! Sorry, but...that just did it again...so SE is expecting from that I push C every 3 hours to see if an sms has been received ??? no thanks !"
i can only back you up on that one, the same thing happened to me a couple of hours ago and has been happening a few times since i've had my phones.
another annoying one is the phone buzzing when a voicemail is received while i'm in a call but not displaying anything unless i go into the menu.
and the ever annoying having to press 3 buttons to read an sms when the keypad is locked - may not be an ericsson specific fault but it's annoying never the less.
speaking of the samsung phone, like i said before now the dual screen function serves a real purpose as you can see the status of your phone without turning on the colour screen so that may be the one for you in the long run. |
eweiwei
Joined: Feb 25, 2002
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I want to sell it TOO!!
I hate big font, even i have set font size to small, the font in contact list and sms list is still medium |
nelsonlye
Joined: Mar 28, 2002
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I want to buy your T68i. I am from Malaysia. Are you from Malaysia. | |
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