Forum > Sony Ericsson / Sony > Symbian phones > New Firmware R5B02

On 2004-05-14 17:51:10, Tanquen wrote:
If I send it to a service center to have them unbrand it, will I be able to use the on-line update service after that? I have used the on-line unbrander that worked for a week or so but the phone is now forever stuck at:

Phone: R3C006
Bluetooth: R5D
Organizer: R4A06
CDA: R4A04

The phone came with the CDA number 162004/14 which I think is Hong Kong and I was only able to update it once back in December the day I got the phone and even them it was not the current firmware at the time.

I have sent many emails to SE support but they don’t care. Even though they admit that I should be surprised that SE is blocking a feature on My P900 that SE said P900s would have. I don’t remember the press release word for word but I’m sure it did not say:

“You now how it’s a drag that you can’t update the P800s firmware at home like you can with many electronic gizmos, well if you buy the P900 you can. As long as it has the right CDA number, suckers.”

With all the other devices that I have had that allowed the firmware to be upgraded I never thought of something like this. I can even update the firmware on my set top DVD player with a CD that I have burned the update onto. It’s bad enough that some devices require you to send them in, like the P800. At least I can understand that they don’t want to deal with a bunch of locked-up phones because people can’t follow directions or have bad luck or the PC crashed right in the middle of the update.

Is this legal? Are we going to see service providers selling the P1000 (or whatever) with the WiFi disabled because SE will sell them for less because they won’t have to pay the WiFi licensing fee? Bit of a stretch I know but you get the idea. SE said buy a P900 and it can do this, this and this. I bought a P900 and SE is blocking my P900 from one of the advertised features.

Sorry for the rant but it makes me mad when I think about it.

On 2004-05-13 22:32:08, rborhara wrote:
All,

New firmware for organiser CDA2003/4 it is version R5B02 - no release notes on it yet and I havent tried it. So cannot comment

On 2004-05-22 19:33:38, rickpaul wrote:
You purchased a black market phone (water goods). Sony Ericsson has no obligation to provide you any warranty service for your phone unless you are in China. 162004/14 is a China Subsidized phone. It's warranty is only valid in China. Update Service is only allowed by the company who subsidized the phone.

These phones are typically about 25% less price than the unsubsidized phones. At the lower price, they do not have the same level of support.

There are plenty of 162003 phones from china that can be freely upgraded. THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD ONLY BUY YOUR PHONES FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE.

If a service center unbrands your phone, you probably still will not be allowed to use the Sony Ericsson Update Service.

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On 2004-05-14 17:51:10, Tanquen wrote: If I send it to a service center to have them unbrand it, will I be able to use the on-line update service after that? I have used the on-line unbrander that worked for a week or so but the phone is now forever stuck at: Phone: R3C006 Bluetooth: R5D Organizer: R4A06 CDA: R4A04 The phone came with the CDA number 162004/14 which I think is Hong Kong and I was only able to update it once back in December the day I got the phone and even them it was not the current firmware at the time. I have sent many emails to SE support but they don’t care. Even though they admit that I should be surprised that SE is blocking a feature on My P900 that SE said P900s would have. I don’t remember the press release word for word but I’m sure it did not say: “You now how it’s a drag that you can’t update the P800s firmware at home like you can with many electronic gizmos, well if you buy the P900 you can. As long as it has the right CDA number, suckers.” With all the other devices that I have had that allowed the firmware to be upgraded I never thought of something like this. I can even update the firmware on my set top DVD player with a CD that I have burned the update onto. It’s bad enough that some devices require you to send them in, like the P800. At least I can understand that they don’t want to deal with a bunch of locked-up phones because people can’t follow directions or have bad luck or the PC crashed right in the middle of the update. Is this legal? Are we going to see service providers selling the P1000 (or whatever) with the WiFi disabled because SE will sell them for less because they won’t have to pay the WiFi licensing fee? Bit of a stretch I know but you get the idea. SE said buy a P900 and it can do this, this and this. I bought a P900 and SE is blocking my P900 from one of the advertised features. Sorry for the rant but it makes me mad when I think about it.

On 2004-05-23 16:21:44, frevell wrote:
I think I found a mayor change but I don't know for sure, can you please help me?

In firmware r5b it is possible to copy (from/to) phonebook (from/to) sim. This works for individual contacts and also for a few or for all.

On 2004-05-24 04:13:19, LooKng wrote:
So, if you buy a product at a lower price it means that it is of lower quality and you don't deserve to have the same product that you bought at a higher price? is there anything on the boxes, advertising, contracts or anywhere else on the 162004/14 phones that explains that they are crap and are not going to be supported? Is there anywhere else something that alerts the users not to buy one of this phones because they are not going to be supported?