Esato

Forum > General discussions > General > Death for Bluetooth?

12  Next
Author Death for Bluetooth?
axxxr
K700
Joined: Mar 21, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Londinium
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 16:28
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
With Intel leading the way to push forward wireless USB (WUSB) technology, some say this could lead to the demise of Bluetooth. Read on and see what you think.

If Intel has its way, Bluetooth will be a dead technology by the end of 2005. Intel’s pushing hard for a new wireless USB standard, called WUSB. The goal is to design a wireless standard that’s faster and more reliable than Bluetooth. The faster part is the key. WUSB is being set up as a counterpart to 802.11, handling the device to device transfers WiFi doesn’t cover; like the movement of audio and video files between PCs and cameras, MP3 players and the like.
While I’ve been quite the vocal fan of Bluetooth, the promise of WUSB has me close to salivation. If the goal is realized, WUSB will have data transfer rates of 480 megabits per second at a range of 2 meters. That’s quite an improvement over the 12 megabits per second that Bluetooth delivers.
As part of any wireless conversation, it’s important to understand where these technologies play. What Bluetooth and WUSB are competing for is dominance in the short range communications arena; previously lead by infrared communication. While WUSB is the soon-to-be new kid on the block, Bluetooth has been around for years, though its purpose has been viewed as unclear by most.

[Image removed][Image removed][Image removed][Image removed]

_________________
Let me Show you
WHITEHOUSE

[ This Message was edited by: masseur on 2005-05-09 10:57 ]
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 16:36
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Dont think, that bt will disappear, more it will be developed and maybe renamed.

This message was posted from a R520

masseur
P910
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sydney, London
PM
Posted: 2004-04-18 16:40
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I am reminded of this image from pocketpcthoughts when they ran a similar story



however I think now that bluetooth is establishing itself in many many products it will no so easily be discarded
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 16:44
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Bt is the basic of the waveland technology as i know, what makes possible internet use in airplanes.

This message was posted from a R520

masseur
P910
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sydney, London
PM
Posted: 2004-04-18 16:51
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
unfortunately thats incorrect. the internet setup by Connexion on Lufthansa and now British airways aircraft is using WiFi. See this Boeing press release for example
BobaFett
R520 copper
Joined: Jan 06, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Kamino (wish it would be Lund)
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 16:56
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
@masseur my mistake, thx. Read about it a year ago in a short article.

This message was posted from a R520

Residentevil
P1
Joined: Feb 29, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Raccoon City, USA
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 17:46
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
The so called dead ones are always living an amazingly long life.
buckle247
K700
Joined: Jan 02, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: UK: OXON
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 17:50
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
surely distance will be just as important a speed. With the increase of bluetooth with 100m range, this will be a big factor of a 2m range of WUSB. Unless it does offer more than 2m range, but a slower speed.
Sammy_boy
C510 Black
Joined: Mar 31, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 18:00
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
You can't bluejack too many people from only a 2m range!!
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

Sony Ericsson Indonesia
T68i mineral
Joined: Oct 08, 2002
Posts: > 500
From: Sony Ericsson Land
PM
Posted: 2004-04-18 18:03
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
lol run up to the person u wanna blue jack then run away and see the results haha
wally
T630
Joined: Mar 04, 2004
Posts: 20
PM
Posted: 2004-04-18 18:19
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
LOL, you would have to WUSBjack them
masseur
P910
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Sydney, London
PM
Posted: 2004-04-18 18:22
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
is it me or am I right in thinking that every bluetooth conversation lately seems to end up in bluejacking discussions? sureley there is more to bluetooth than that (although thats probably the most fun use!)
Sammy_boy
C510 Black
Joined: Mar 31, 2004
Posts: > 500
From: Staffordshire, United Kingdom
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 18:23
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
Not quite got the same ring to it really, does it?

Besides, 2m is within whacking range if the person you've just blue/WUSBjacked didn't find it quite as funny as you did and reacts with physical violence!!
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke

Neil Chen
T610
Joined: Jan 03, 2004
Posts: 72
From: Inniskilling
PM
Posted: 2004-04-18 19:15
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
I wonder how much power wusb uses, that's one of the main factor that manufacturers will take into account when designing devices and deciding what wireless standards game hardware to use.

This message was posted from a T610

axxxr
K700
Joined: Mar 21, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: Londinium
PM, WWW
Posted: 2004-04-18 19:21
Reply with quoteEdit/Delete This PostPrint this post
WUSB performance at launch will provide adequate bandwidth to meet the requirements of a typical user experience with wired connections. The 480 Mbps initial target bandwidth of WUSB is comparable to the current wired USB 2.0 standard. With 480 Mbps being the initial target, WUSB specifications will allow for generation steps of data throughput as the ultra wideband radio evolves and with future process technologies, exceeding limits of 1 Gbps.

The specification is intended for WUSB to operate as a wire replacement with targeted usage models for cluster connectivity to the host and device-to-device connectivity at less than 10 meters. The interface will support quality delivery of rich digital multimedia formats, including audio and video, and will be capable of high rate streaming (isochronous transfers).
Radio System Power and Power Management

Radio system power (power used only by the radio) will be expected to meet the most stringent requirements where mobile and handheld battery life is important. For example, typical PDAs use 250–400 mW without a radio connection, while typical cellular phones use 200 mW–300 mW with the primary WAN radio. Adding a WUSB radio should not increase power requirements any more than existing wireless technologies already employed today.

Battery-powered operation requires reasonable battery life: 2–5 days for highly mobile devices and several months for intermittently used devices like remote controls. WUSB, based on the MultiBand OFDM Alliance (MBOA) radio, will strive to meet these standards. The power target for WUSB radio will be introduced at less than 300 mW and drive to a target of 100 mW over time.


Access the forum with a mobile phone via esato.mobi