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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:02
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Let us post here our info,views,thougts and everything about these phones,but be careful,because if you post some pictures that are copyrighted or they are from SEs video this topic will be closed like the other one.This thread is its continuation.

Attention!!!Don't post any copyrigted videos or pictures!!!
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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:12
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I am wondering if any of the new phones would have AtI's IMAGEON™ 2300. Here is an overview of what it is:

Overview
Enabling 3D Gaming on Mobile Phones and PDA's

The IMAGEON™ 2300 is ATI's latest generation of media co-processor designed to enable manufacturers of mobile telephones and PDA's to deliver an exciting 3D multimedia experience to end users. And for the carriers utilizing the new higher bandwidth 2.5 and 3G networks, the IMAGEON processors provide features such as 3D gaming, Video/Image capture (MMS), and MPEG 4 playback.

At the forefront of technological innovation for this market, the IMAGEON™ 2300 offers the first hardware 3D graphics implementation in the handheld space, providing exceptional visual quality and extensive display features. It also represents the first OpenGL® ES 1.0 compliant device on the handheld market.

IMAGEON 2300 integrates an advanced 2D and 3D graphics engine, MPEG-4 video decoder, JPEG encoding/decoding, and a 2 Mega pixel camera sub-system processing engine. With support for up to 2MB of ultra low-power SDRAM, it enables mobile phones to deliver powerful 3D gaming, smooth high-resolution video playback, and excellent digital still camera functionality for a truly involving customer experience.

Low Cost, Low Power Systems

The highly optimized IMAGEON™ architecture enable low cost, low power system designs by lowering CPU utilization thereby extending battery life thus eliminating the need for high powered CPU's and/or larger batteries.

Readily Available Content on IMAGEON

ATI has extensive Developer Relations (ISV Partners) enabling readily available content (3D games, Imaging and Video applications) on IMAGEON thereby making IMAGEON an attractive choice not only for the OEM's but also for the Carriers of mobile services.



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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:20
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I don't think that in would have...I think that Toshiba PDAs have this ATI onboard.The only phone that I know with 2D graphics accelerator is Sendo X.
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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:25
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What about intel chips

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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:42
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Intel chips are useless, power-hungry wastes of silicon. Original ARM all the way, baby!
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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:43
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yeah sure
i wouldn't mind a 540mhz xscale with wifi

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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:46
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I suppose that you saw this.What you think about it?Maybe it'll be the T650s competitor!?!?!?
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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:48
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The phone is not even out that we talk about a competitor ...
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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:52
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It's not out but after CeBit they'll come out at the market at the same time,so they'll be primary competitors...and maybe (if the roumors are true) the S65 from Siemens.
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Posted: 2004-02-11 18:56
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mobile review still hasn't removed the pics, so for the people that didn't saw it you know where to go

btw: do you know the specs that were published at m-r?
well eldar stated that those were just a guess from their newsman and that the real specs are different....
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Posted: 2004-02-11 19:00
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Maybe theese photos and specs.are for delusion for the opponent.The T650 is just like the T630s draft.
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Posted: 2004-02-11 19:26
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T650 looks great, hope d time 2 wait is worth. Reg

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Posted: 2004-02-11 22:04
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I'm not from the people who're buing phones because of the design.I would like the phone to have good design,but the primary thing for me are the finctions and the display...oh...and the size of course.Nokia are making very bastard phones.I'm telling it in the pozitive meaning,but I like more the strong,strict design (like T610).What about the rotating one from .It seems to big,but the picture lies you know.Everything what I want from theese phones is:
*262K display
*176x220 resolution (for 'T650') and 320x240 (for the rotating one)
*40 polyphonic chords and the ability to use MP3 as ringtone.
*MP3 player
*Video recorder (176x144 at 25fps) and video player (of course)
*16MB internal memory
*MMc or MSD Pro slot,because we need more space than 128MB.
*1.0 or 1.3 MagePixel camera
*Bluetooth 1.2 (long range)
*IRDA
*JAVA MIDP 2.0 (with ability to control TV)
*Mophun
*Renewal menus (the users want somethin new)
*USB 1.1 or why not 2.0
*Ability to be used as WEBCAM via bluetooth
*WEB browser
*Powerful battery

I know that some of these thing make it bigger.I am concordant to be 105x48x23 or a little bit bigger if it support all of these things.
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Posted: 2004-02-12 14:26
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Quote:

On 2004-02-11 22:04:10, "Hacker" wrote:
... Everything what I want from theese phones is:
*Bluetooth 1.2 (long range)




Bluetooth 1.2 is not long range!

I have a TDK Card in my laptop, it is BT 1.1 and has 250m range.
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Posted: 2004-02-12 14:35
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well yeah 1.2 isn't long range but it's a new standard in bluetoth with better support, connectivity etc.
and it can be long range too....
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