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Dutch far right politician shot dead today in the Netherlands |
sooty
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Pim Fortuyn, a far right Dutch politician was shot and killed tonight at 18.00 CET after leaving a live radio interview in Hilversum. The party named after him was prognosed to gain up to 15% of the electoral vote in the upcoming national elections on 15 May 2002.
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This is the first Dutch politician to get killed. We all are sickened and appalled by it
Personally I objected to his points of view, but this is not the way to deal with one's objection.....
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arroyootje
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To kill someone is never the way to solve something.....
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Delfino356
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Het is inderdaad niet goed te keuren wat er gebeurd is.
Of je het nou met hem eens was of niet.
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sooty
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Ej Delfino,
Ik wou dat iedereen in Nederland dezelfde approach had als jij; met name voor wat betreft de posterd in de diverse fora zoals Fokzine.
Groet.
Chris
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Eamonn
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sooty
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I have to correct you on this Ejasim.
He was not a rascist as the foreign journalists liked to present him. He had some strong views about the subject, but he definitely was not! Mind you, number two on his candidatelist is a black guy (!) from the cape verdian islands !
This rascist thing has been blown out of proportion by all foreign media.
I did not like his political views because they were to vague.
I do not like Anyone being killed for their (whatever !!) political views !!!
Edit: typo
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sooty
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It is/was no secret that Pim Fortuyn was gay.
What you are referring to was Pim Fortuyn's response to the fact that a certain imam El Moumni, who administers a Islamic church in Rotterdan called gay people "less than dogs, less then pigs".
This imam was called upon before a parlementary commission. He lied about having said these things !!!
As El Moumni does not speak Dutch, only Arabic, he was not aware though that some Dutch journalists do understand Arabic. I will not repeat the things he said but he sure is a bigott !!
Though I do noy subscribe to Pim Fortuyn's ideas I would NOT mind if this bigott was to be thrown out of our country !!!
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Eamonn
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sooty
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Don't be so patronising ejasim !
Pim Fortuyn just spoke the word of the 'man in the street'.
He was right in my opinion about that.
Fact.
1. Islamic people do not integrate in Dutch society.
Just look at the trouble we are having with Islamic youths in the big cities here. Eg. swimming pools: groups of young Maroccan males (always groups, never induviduals !!!) are terrorising female visitors at swimming pools. Probable cause in my opinion: Islamic boys/fathers are allowed complete freedom while their sisters/mothers, Islamic girls, are retained at home like prisoners, waiting for a pre-arranged marraige to Mr. Unknown. Thus creating a very confusing environment for those (male) who are 'free'.
2. Imam El Moumni
He was quizzed by Dutch Government officials and he DID lie when the translated transscripts came through. Period.
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Eamonn
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Wings_Talons
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Whoa whoa whoa, Ejasim .. chill buddy! Look we are not agains Islamic people or anything. But you should realise that it is natural to object to foreigners being in their homeland regardless of who it is. Wouldn't you object if lots of foreigners came to your place and started to live a better life than the local people? Look its not a problem in just one country. Its there in UK, India, Pakistan and even Sharjhah. We all feel - why should a foreigner live better lifestyle than us?
We are at a stage in this world where we are trying to erase the borders between countries. All this is bound to happen. So just chill!
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Eamonn
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ummmmmmmmmmmm yes. foreigners in the UAE live a better lifestyle than the locals. but do the locals want to get rid of them?!?! NO
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Wings_Talons
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Ejasim>> But you got to agree, its going to take a lot of effort from all Muslims and other Islamic countries to prove they can get along with every other country - especially post September 11. People have lost faith and trust - though I must say it is unfair to brand everyone like that. |
Eamonn
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yes i agree with you on that one but not with sooty's complete & utter shite!
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