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Why java games work SLOW on SonyEricsson T610? |
skullmonkey
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Why java games work SLOW on SonyEricsson T610? And can that be fixed??
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Cycovision
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Java games work slow on the T610 for several reasons. Here's a few pf them in no particular order:
1. Java games require something called a 'run-time environment', or 'engine'. This is essentially a program, so whenever your T610 runs a java game, it is really running two programs: The runtime environment and the game itself. This makes your T610 work really hard!
2. The T610 is not very high-tech compared to your PC. It has a very basic processor (12MHz clock speed I think) and it's memory is very slow.
3. Java is a not very efficient programming language (compared to others like c++). It was designed to work on many different devices, PC's Apple Macs, Mobile Phones etc. and unfortunately a trade-off of this cross-platform compatibility is it's speed.
The only solution is to make sure that your T610 is updated with the latest firmware versions as they are released since the Java engine is one of the issues that appear to be improved with each firmware release.
I've missed out a lot of technical stuff here, if you want to know the full story, let us know  |
djburno2000
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Also, check your firmware version! The lastest releases (R3C and R4...)significantly increase the speed of Java.
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sn3ipen
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The java on t610 is slow compared to other phones like nokia. Even The cheap one is faster. They got a real java plattform and belive me t610 have a fast processor compared to other phones on its size. The mophun platform on t610 is werry fast. So it have to be a software isue that can be fixed in a firmware uppgrade but there is werry smal changes for that to happend cuz :se: have fixed The java in z1010 and wil try to sell that instead of The old t610.
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superunknown
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Thanks for the info:-)
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Super G
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That's just a  crap to motivate the use of mophun. |
MaThIbUs
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On 2003-12-29 08:27:55, Super G wrote:
That's just a crap to motivate the use of mophun.
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:lol: i don't think so!
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sn3ipen
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Afterall the java in z1010 is much bether then java in t610 so that proves that is not only mophun phones.
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red-mdc
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Id like to here the full story plz.im very interestd in this post
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Super G
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On 2003-12-29 10:04:28, speedooh wrote:
Afterall the java in z1010 is much bether then java in t610 so that proves that is not only mophun phones.
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Other phones (e.g. T310) do not support Java. Only mophun.
Z1010 is not available. Java on T610 runs very poorly, so even if Z1010 supports Java, I assume it's not quite a challenge to make it work much better.
Still, engineers are not stupid, so I really can't believe they can make this Java support so bad without any fishy thing behind it. And this certainly is to promote Mophun.
Yet, Java apps are far more popular and wide spread than Mophun ones, so have to give in. (not give up Mophun, but make their Java support proper) |
Cycovision
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Here's the low-down on the J2ME Platform (.pdf format)
http://java.sun.com/j2me/j2me-ds.pdf
As you'll see, there's quite a lot to it!
At the end of the day, the T610's operating system is designed to run a phone, not a games system, which is why java implementation is not very good but improves as the firmware is improved. So why are other phones better at it?
Well, I'd say that it's quite possible that have tried to cram too much into too little space. Having Java AND Mophun facilities in a small operating system means that there has to be a trade-off somewhere. This might explain why a lot of java games that are J2ME compliant and therefore should work on a T610 don't work. It's almost as if the operating system is just not sophisticated enough to handle anything but the most basic java functions. Don't quote me on this, but personally I suspect that the T610 uses a 'cut-down' version of J2ME, or at least a modified version of it which again would be less efficient.
I'm probably wrong, but surely if the T610 had full J2ME capabilities, more games would work on it? It can't all be down to screen size alone. |
xa4
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first SE wasn't going to add Java to the T610, but they probably added it because most phones have it now, so they probably didn't really bother about the fact that it's slow.
actually, some nice looking games work smoothly on my Z600, but it's a shame that those cool nokia games don't work on it :s |
skullmonkey
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So, when I check my firmware I get R1L013. Is this old or new? What is the newest one? Where can get that, and is Java fixed in that one?
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Cycovision
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You've got the old firmware. R4Cxxx is the latest, you need to take your phone back to the shop to get it flashed with the new firmware. The shop may or may not have to send it to an SE service center, depends whether or not they have the kit.
You should see quite an improvement in Java performance, but don't expect miracles |
skullmonkey
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Is there any chances that I can download the newest firmware on internet? Is there any site for that??
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Posted: 2003-12-28 23:58
