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Aivar
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Posted: 2003-12-05 15:30
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There is new GSM-frequency in North and South America: 850 MHz. And the 3G [WCDMA] is starting to rise in all over the world.

SO, if it is technically feasible the trully world mobile phone must be 5-band: GSM 850/900/1800/1900/WCDMA.

This would be a real breakthrough!
CrackerJack
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Posted: 2003-12-05 15:46
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The most that we have today is Quad-band phones.
INTEGRITY

Without it...
Everything else is irrelevant.
Jim
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Posted: 2003-12-05 15:54
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More users = network saturated, solution: new frequency. Imagine in 2050 how much frequency will be
sn3ipen
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Posted: 2003-12-05 19:07
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I think the mobile company have realised that its much cheaper to only have one band. Therfor do 3g have the same band all over the world. In about 5 years the gsm network is dead and everybody use 3g
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Posted: 2003-12-06 02:45
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Is the 900 frequency used very much today? Do we really need it?

I don't think GSM will be dead in 5 years. Three years ago it was said that everyone will be using 3G phones by now and I still haven't seen a successful 3G network, except NTT in Japan.

I think it is very unlikely that everyone will be using the same band around the world because of already occupied bands in use today, for instance, military, satellites, navigation systems, etc.

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Posted: 2003-12-06 02:53
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Not in 5 but in 10 it'll b dead.

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Universal Exports
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Posted: 2003-12-06 02:58
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No, that's not likely. Just look at the NMT here in sweden. GSM started in the beginning of the ninntey's, NMT (from wich GSM took over) will be shut down in the end of 2008 so I don't think GSM wont be used anymore in ten years.
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Posted: 2003-12-06 03:02
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Offcorse millitary will have their own satelite network but the public will use wcdma or something faster.

Edit: What kind of people use nmt nowadays.

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Posted: 2003-12-06 03:41
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Last thing I heard people in northern Scandinavia were still using NMT because GSM sucks up there. However, I also heard that they tried to force them on GSM for free so they could retire NMT. Having them get GSM for free is cheaper than continue maintaing the NMT system. The good old NMT - never failed or dropped, just some static.

moodswinger
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Posted: 2003-12-06 05:37
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Motorola is releasing a whole batch of quad-band phones: 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz, no WCDMA, though. As far as I know, there is not much use for 850MHz band - it is only being used by Cingular and only sporadically.

I think tri-band phones wil remain a standard issue for a while now, although Samsung now has mostly dual-band phones (900 and 1900MHz). 900 still remains the principal frequency band in Europe, because the first two networks in any country are usually assigned that frequency.
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Posted: 2003-12-06 22:47
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I think its bether to make one phone with lot of bands instead of making three diffrent phones like t610, t616 and t618.
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Posted: 2003-12-06 23:29
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But then it'd be more expencive...
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Aivar
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Posted: 2003-12-08 09:16
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Quote:

On 2003-12-06 22:47:41, speedooh wrote:
I think its bether to make one phone with lot of bands instead of making three diffrent phones like t610, t616 and t618.




I totally agree with you.

And about GSM and it's death - I don't think that GSM will be gone after 10 or even more years. There are plenty of operators everywhere (especially in Africa, Oceania, Asia) which just are starting to develope/expand their usual GSM 900/1800 network.

So, when people want to travel and use the roaming, they can't handle only with WCDMA-phone even after 10-15 years. Therefore it would be clever to make multiband mobile phones.

As we remember: few years ago there was no 3-band GSM phones at the market at all. Then Motorola produced the Timeport, first phone GSM 900/1800/1900.

And now there are first 850/900/1800/1900 phones on the market. I hope it won't take a long time when there will be first 5-band phone [GSM + WCDMA] on the market.

And it would be really nice if Sony Ericsson will make it happen
amagab
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Posted: 2003-12-08 09:59
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It could easily happen with the future Z1010 replacement.

apollosfire
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Posted: 2003-12-11 18:47
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Maybe I'm greedy but for me a true world phone would have to be:
NMT(1G)/850-900-1800-1900(2G, GSM/EGSM, Quad-Band)/WCDMA(3G)/4G(Not sure of details, is being tested in China and Japan)/Satellite

That would be the ultimate phone! Especially if it was like the P900!
Imagine:
Sony Ericsson P1010!
Symbian OS
65k TFT Colour Screen
2 Cameras: Front - 800x640, Back - 1 megapixel; Both "CommuniCorders"!
48 Bit Polyphonic Ringtones
Bluetooth
Infrared
WAP
GPRS
EDGE
Java (MIDP2)
Morphun
SMS/EMS
MMS
Email
Conference Calls
Video Calling
Video Recording
Media Player (MP3, MPEG, Streaming Video [TV? it's possible!] etc etc)
Full Voice Control
GPS Location Sensing
Speakerphone
Handwriting Recognition
Wi-Fi/WLAN
MP3 Ringtones
Calender, Multi-tasking, T9 + All of SE's Standard features!
Expansion: Memory Stick/Memory Stick Pro's (yep, not Duo's!)

Now that would be a phone!
If Sony Ericsson made that now, and available for, say, £1000, I'd still save up and get it (note: as long as it isn't much bigger than the P900!)

~Apollosfire~

PS Now I'm gonna go dream 'bout the P1010!
PPS If anyone from Sony Ericsson is reading this, please mention it to your superiors!
PPPS I know this phone wouldn't be possible with our current technology level, just don't burst my bubble!

[ This Message was edited by: apollosfire on 2003-12-11 18:01 ]

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