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gelfen
Joined: Nov 22, 2003
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From: Melbourne, Australia
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i'm happy to fork out the AUD $30 extra to get a handset with inbuilt  , assuming the price difference between an OEM  handsfree and the radio headset.
anyway, i prefer the HPR-20 because it operates like a portable radio.
just my 2c
[ This Message was edited by: gelfen on 2003-12-01 06:08 ]
the point i'm broadly trying to make is that lack of in-built radio is NOT an insurmountable shortfall, if indeed it can be considered one anyway.
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hurny
Joined: Dec 04, 2002
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On 2003-12-01 07:07:12, gelfen wrote:
the point i'm broadly trying to make is that lack of in-built radio is NOT an insurmountable shortfall, if indeed it can be considered one anyway. |
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Elegant words my friend  but I find the inbuilt radio very handy, as do many. Anyway- how are they $30??
Nokia Sux? Put a  logo on it and you'd think it was awesome!!  |
lowrida5656
Joined: Aug 17, 2003
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From: Melbourne, Australia
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hurney can i ask sumptin? wat kiind of phone do u have is it a p900 like in your aviator? if so y not trade in and get a nokia if u like them so much... an y do u come here? you said sumwere u like SE but you dont like the users, if thats the case y would u cum to a SE forum??? sounds a bit stupid to me |
Ayush
Joined: Sep 12, 2003
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So is the 3200 out? Anyone tested it?
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hurny
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On 2003-12-01 11:43:18, lowrida5656 wrote:
hurney can i ask sumptin? wat kiind of phone do u have is it a p900 like in your aviator? |
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I own a few phones. I just defend good products, and defend Nokia if irrational SE fans discredit it for an illogical reason.
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You'll find that Flying Finn has that as his signature. I tend to agree sometimes.
In addition, I can go on any forum I like
But thanks for your concern. |
Flying Finn
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On 2003-12-01 12:00:10, sony_eric wrote:
So is the 3200 out? Anyone tested it?
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It started shipping on October 21st over here. The only problem that I've heard has been the keypad which some (not so much the users but the critics) don't like.
From Nokias to an SE to whatever.  |
lowrida5656
Joined: Aug 17, 2003
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From: Melbourne, Australia
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ye there for sale in australia.. there on a 30 plan as i said |
gelfen
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On 2003-12-01 08:41:46, hurny wrote:
Elegant words my friend but I find the inbuilt radio very handy, as do many. Anyway- how are they $30??
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the average mobile doesn't ship with a handsfree in the packet. if you buy an OEM handsfree rather than a cheap knock-off, then the price difference between the radio handsfree and the normal handsfree works out to around $30 - $35
i'm not denying that it might be handy for it to be in-built, but i work in an industry that values the difference between "have to have" and "nice to have". for me, is far more important because i can obtain radio functionality other ways. |
hurny
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On 2003-12-02 09:33:44, gelfen wrote:
the average mobile doesn't ship with a handsfree in the packet. |
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Yes it does
Every radio phone has a radio headset included.
Nokia Sux? Put a logo on it and you'd think it was awesome!! |
Flying Finn
Joined: Dec 12, 2002
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Think of all those users that have some weird colorful covers on their 3XXX phones..BT? They couldn't care less. I'm not saying Nokia is good only for users like them though. Remember the features that the 6230 and the Series 60 & 80/90 phones have. And yes, a radio headset comes with every Nokia that has an FM radio. Except the 6510 in some markets. All the other FM radio phones (8310, 7210, 6610, 5100, 7250, 7250i, 3200, N-Gage, 6800, 6810, 6220, 6230, 7700, 7600, 7200, 5140, 3300, 2300) have them in the sales package. Nokia has also had an add-on MP3/FM radio for years but it only comes with 32MB internal memory. It's good for phones like 3310, 3510, 8210 etc. Here it is:
Recently they announced a new Pop-port radio
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gelfen
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On 2003-12-02 09:33:44, gelfen wrote:
the average mobile doesn't ship with a handsfree in the packet
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average = no inbuilt radio
i was talking about the difference for a non-radio equipped mobile (such as is produced by nearly every other mobile manufacturer).
@Flying Finn: have also had radio handsfrees for years in various guises (HPR-08, HPR-11, HPR-20). i believe HPR-08 was the first radio handsfree for a mobile, but i'm happy to be corrected on that
i reiterate: i'm not denying an inbuilt radio would be nice, but it isn't essential. but then for me a mobile is a tool, not a toy. radio functionality can be achieved other ways, and with a better UI than having it built into the phone.
personally, i like the nokia 6230 (i have no need of a smartphone) and can imagine getting something similar as my next mobile because it's an "all in one" - but as it's the first of it's kind wrt expandable memory in a non-smartphone i'm happy to wait for the revised version six months later when the bugs are ironed out. at the moment i have a phone that meets my needs (including HPR-20 ) and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
i need bluetooth, triband and good screen. i don't need a radio. speakerphone would be nice too, but i don't need that either
have to have vs. nice to have
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hurny
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You can keep convincing yourself.
It seems to me, that whatever SE doesnt happen to have on a phone (eg. radio), SE fans just say they dont 'need' it, or even that is 'sucks'!!
The brand loytalty never ceases to amaze me.
Sad really.
You even said that you could imagine yourself getting something 'similar' to the 6230.
You'll either HAVE to get a 6230, or wait a damn long time for another brand to bring out a phone with the same list of awesome features.
Nokia Sux? Put a logo on it and you'd think it was awesome!! |
gelfen
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On 2003-12-03 05:59:48, hurny wrote:
The brand loytalty never ceases to amaze me.
Sad really.
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what brand loyalty? 
i've only ever owned one mobile. i admit that historically i've always liked ericsson products, but i also like some nokias. when it came to finally getting a phone i weighed up what was available against my needs and wants. it just so happened that a z600 best fulfilled my requirements this time. three words above all dictated my choice: fit for purpose.
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On 2003-12-03 05:59:48, hurny wrote:
You even said that you could imagine yourself getting something 'similar' to the 6230.
You'll either HAVE to get a 6230, or wait a damn long time for another brand to bring out a phone with the same list of awesome features.
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i can imagine myself owning a 6230 because i can see my needs growing in future. but by then i might also need a P900. i don't have one because i don't need it.
in actual fact the 6230 was a looonnnnggg time coming. there's nothing new in the technology, but kudos to nokia for being the first company to finally put it all together. it's biggest problem is that it's not available now, otherwise i probably would have bought it depending on price.
i don't give a stuff who makes the phone, as long as it's high quality and meets my needs. and i won't have to wait that long for someone to make a 6230 clone either. within 12 months mobiles with 6230 specs or better will become the default mid-high end phone. not to mention the inevitable 6230i to iron out the bugs (and don't tell me there won't be bugs, any first run model of anything always has bugs). |
sheebybabe
Joined: Sep 25, 2003
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Hey anyone care to post a sample pic taken with a 3200??? Anyone please??? |
Flying Finn
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have to have vs. nice to have |
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Good for you. But the users that the phone in question is targeted at, probably don't agree. You sound like a business user commenting on a flashy little fashion phone. As if somebody tried to make you replace your T610 or whatever with a 3200! Nonononono. Anyway. The 3200 has a loudspeaker and Wireless BT Audio Adapter (so you can use BT headsets with it) support in case somebody wants handsfree. |
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Posted: 2003-12-01 07:07
logo on it and you'd think it was awesome!! 
